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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapdragoon View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll View Post
    Turbine's policy is to not discuss bannings so don't expect them to name names.

    I won't name names either, but I do know a few put in time-out.
    I also know a few put in time out, but I think Turbine made a mistake here. Apparently the items were not taken away, and all my guild is talking about now was that it was clearly worth a five day time out. I doubt the people in my guild are unusual in this regard. I hope he who is not here is wrong about the items, but I haven't heard about them being taken from anyone. The timeouts are not going to stop the take it for all it's worth mentality here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vint View Post
    It will be easy to decide. They lump all the exploiters and they

    perma ban 25% that have spent the least amount on the game in the past year
    14 day ban 25% that spend just $10/month
    7 day ban for the 25% that spend more than just a VIP
    warning for all the fatcats who spend their mortgage payment.

    This is what is being decided at the moment so all you sploiters better start buying tp before you get the boot.
    would you consider this. . .PAY TO WIN!?!?! huehuehuehue

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    Quote Originally Posted by DakDeFrosted View Post
    I haven't heard of a single person getting any type of punishment what-so-ever from the latest exploit.

    I guess in future I will jump on the exploit train and milk it for all it's worth.
    As far as I heard on Sarlona; bans were handed out... investigations are still going on to track the alternate accounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fco-karatekid View Post
    Yah, I understand that from a definition standpoint - but dealing with customers in a food-based business, I get people all the time who define "vegan" however they want to in varying levels of strictness.

    I am NOT saying your wrong, just relating what self-professed vegans do/say.

    EDIT: in fact, if they'd just eat like normal people, they could save themselves HOURS per week describing what they will and won't eat.
    I know quite a few people who have gone vegan and most only went through that lengthly process until they were in understanding what they should and should not eat, cross referenced with what they like and dont like from that selection. After they did this and fully understood what they were able to and not able to order from public restaurants or buy from stores, they were fine. I usually explain to them that they put the cart before the horse by going vegan before doing the research, when they should have done the research, then went vegan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ungood View Post
    I have been playing this game for 4 years, and I never once logged in because Flawless Dragons Scales were still worth 800K plat and if they became worth 1 copper overnight, I would still log in, because that is not why I played this game to start with, that is not why I continue to play this game today.

    Anyone who really is broken up about the pretend money value of some stupid collectible is honestly playing for the wrong reasons, and is missing the whole point of playing a game to start with
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    Gotta say this is my favorite part of any of these major exploit happenings....

    the time right after the exploit has been fixed...

    all the folks who jump onto second or third accounts and come to the forums pleading that its all Turbines fault for not checking their code properly and that "people" were just using it as it was written.

    Of course, no one actually used the exploit! its all Hypothetical!

    IF I used it, it wouldnt be my fault.. so I shouldnt get banned!

    Rock on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ungood View Post
    I have been playing this game for 4 years, and I never once logged in because Flawless Dragons Scales were still worth 800K plat and if they became worth 1 copper overnight, I would still log in, because that is not why I played this game to start with, that is not why I continue to play this game today.

    Anyone who really is broken up about the pretend money value of some stupid collectible is honestly playing for the wrong reasons, and is missing the whole point of playing a game to start with.
    Justification based on degree of impact simply leads to more of the same behavior using the same blanket justification, but the impact is ramped up. I prefer it to be addressed early when the impact is small to avoid encouraging the issue escalate to where the impact is then unacceptable, and those who partook will simply justify it by saying they were allowed to do it when the impact was small.

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    Personally, I pity the people who use any kind of cheats in DDO. If you do, you must really, really suck at DDO to feel that you need to cheat. I don't even use Raid gear as the quests are already too easy with regular gear.

    So, no matter what punishment Turbine hands down, if you used the exploit, then perhaps you should try an easier game like marbles, or noughts and crosses. Leave DDO to the people with skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ungood View Post
    I have been playing this game for 4 years, and I never once logged in because Flawless Dragons Scales were still worth 800K plat and if they became worth 1 copper overnight, I would still log in, because that is not why I played this game to start with, that is not why I continue to play this game today.

    Anyone who really is broken up about the pretend money value of some stupid collectible is honestly playing for the wrong reasons, and is missing the whole point of playing a game to start with.
    but you've seen how upset people get when the nerf bat is swung, given your example those people who have a large chunk of their wealth stored as rare items have just had the player base swing the nerf bat at them. sure it's not gonna affect the coop nature of questing, but it is going to upset players who have played for a long time to build up such wealth. does that mean the gameplay is ruined? no, of course not, but that doesn't mean such players should be belittled for feeling upset about it.

    this is one reason why it is generally accepted that duping is a no-brainer example of an exploit and why anyone deliberately duping vast quantities then getting hit with the ban stick won't get any sympathy from me. however as i said above, i don't think turbine are in a position to use the permaban stick in this situation as their lack of action in the past has dared the playerbase to jump on such exploits.

    personally i don't have such wealth, none of my lvl20+ toons are even near the plat cap. i have experienced a large loss of wealth in computer games before, and when it's down to me just not winning it still sucks, but as it's part of the game you just have to shrug your shoulders and carry on. so i can sympathise with players who are upset that they have lost a lot of wealth due to other players cheating, that loses all feeling of it being fair and part of the game.

    so to sum up i think people feeling upset about this is completely valid, however i also agree with you that the reason to play should be for the gameplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    We play games to have fun and we enjoy those games within the confines of the rules we all set down and agree upon playing the game with.
    I do not know about this. I love the unlimited ammo cheat in the GTA games. I know, I know, you guys can crucify me and put my story on the bio channel. I cheated at Grand Theft Auto and this is what changed my life and has shaped me to be the next green river killer.
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    Mmm.... donuts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chai View Post
    I know quite a few people who have gone vegan and most only went through that lengthly process until they were in understanding what they should and should not eat, cross referenced with what they like and dont like from that selection. After they did this and fully understood what they were able to and not able to order from public restaurants or buy from stores, they were fine. I usually explain to them that they put the cart before the horse by going vegan before doing the research, when they should have done the research, then went vegan.
    Yeah, it's not really that hard if you research it first. The hard part is if you try to eat like a non-vegan while staying vegan - that's when you have people ordering their food with several 'special instructions' for the chef.
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    Ever gone through a server log, even with good search tools? Takes a goodly bit of time to analyze the logs. My only wish is that there be perma-bans for this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MelysaCutty View Post

    and yeah, this should never have hit live, but once it did, people should have known better then to use it
    Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. If you have any concept of right and wrong you know that this exploit was wrong. Beyond that, if you chose to use it anyway, you really just need to buck up and accept whatever punishment and stop with the sometimes bizarre rationalizations. And if no punishment comes down, at least realize that what you did was wrong and stop blaming other people for it.

    So yes, OP, I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vint View Post
    I do not know about this. I love the unlimited ammo cheat in the GTA games. I know, I know, you guys can crucify me and put my story on the bio channel. I cheated at Grand Theft Auto and this is what changed my life and has shaped me to be the next green river killer.
    to bring that on topic would you use a wallhack cheat in a multiplayer FPS?

    because i think IDKFA is fine, but wallhacks are not. oh and let's not forget IDDQD, just don't use that in hexen...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superhik View Post
    Don't you consider an exploit from their behalf..
    This is where you go wrong. There are no exploits from their behalf. Its in the user agreement u accepted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    We play games to have fun and we enjoy those games within the confines of the rules we all set down and agree upon playing the game with.
    And the only reason we have rules is because it is human nature to push the limits... even when we're just sitting around having fun and relaxing.

    We humans are truly a screwed up race! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzB View Post
    hehehe... +1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkrok View Post
    Donuts. I just went vegan a couple weeks ago. I miss donuts.
    http://www.peta.org/living/vegetaria...doughnuts.aspx

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