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    Default First Bar build

    This will be the first time I'm posting.
    I'm just looking for a little feedback on a barb build I want to try out.
    I see that you can use con mod for damage on dwarf so trying something different.
    Tell me where I went wrong please.

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    Vinnige Fanie
    Level 20 True Neutral Dwarf Male
    (20 Barbarian) 
    Hit Points: 540
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
    Fortitude: 27
    Reflex: 12
    Will: 7
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             16                    19
    Dexterity            16                    20
    Constitution         20                    33
    Intelligence          8                    12
    Wisdom                8                    11
    Charisma              6                    10
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 6
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 10
    +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 14
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               5                    20.5
    Bluff                -2                     0
    Concentration         5                    11
    Diplomacy            -2                     0
    Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
    Haggle               -2                     3
    Heal                 -1                     0
    Hide                  3                     5
    Intimidate            2                    26
    Jump                  7                    27
    Listen               -1                     0
    Move Silently         3                     5
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform              n/a                    n/a
    Repair               -1                     1
    Search               -1                     3
    Spellcraft           -1                     1
    Spot                 -1                     0
    Swim                  n/a                   n/a
    Tumble                n/a                  14
    Use Magic Device     -2                     0
    
    Level 1 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Enhancement: Dwarf - Dwarven Toughness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Dwarf - Axe Training (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 2 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 3 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    
    
    Level 4 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Dwarf - Dwarven Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Dwarf - Child of the Mountain (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Dwarf - Child of the Mountain (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Dwarf - Child of the Mountain (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Dwarf - Axe Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Dwarf - Axe Training (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 5 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Dwarf - Axe Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Dwarf - Throw Your Weight Around (Axes) (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Weapon Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Extend Rage (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 6 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Extend Rage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Extend Rage (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Parrying Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Parrying Bond (Rank 2)
    
    
    Level 7 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Parrying Bond (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Guarding Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Guarding Bond (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Guarding Bond (Rank 3)
    
    
    Level 8 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Lessons of Travel (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Lessons of Travel (Rank 2)
    
    
    Level 9 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Lessons of Travel (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Kinetic Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Kinetic Bond (Rank 2)
    
    
    Level 10 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Kinetic Bond (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Constitution (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 11 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Resistance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Elemental Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Constitution (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 12 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Die Hard (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Extra Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Blank Thoughts (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Bond of Retribution (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 13 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Extra Rage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Extra Rage (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Willpower Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Willpower Rage (Rank 2)
    
    
    Level 14 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Bond of Destruction (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Adamantine Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Toughness (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 15 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Toughness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Frenzied Berserker (Bar) - Die Harder (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Toughness (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Toughness (Rank 3)
    
    
    Level 16 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Furious Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Hardy Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Hardy Rage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Hardy Rage (Rank 3)
    
    
    Level 17 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Ritual Scarring (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Ritual Scarring (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Fear Me! (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 18 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Force Ward (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Pain Touch (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Aura of Fear (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 19 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Aura of Fear (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Aura of Fear (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Constitution (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 20 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Demoralizing Success (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Ritual Scarring (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 3)
    Last edited by VernonM; 10-06-2013 at 04:14 AM.

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    Tell me where I went wrong please
    No con mod to attack, just to damage.

    Then just insert every con of a barbarian. :\

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    don't go pure, swap con with str, prolly swap race to horc too

    and, u have really these pl and tomes? if so i expected from you to build something more self sufficient, if not you'll NEED a hire + a healer, y, both maybe will be able to keep u alive XDDDD

    also i like more slayer than berserker (however i never swap my weapon to scroll/buff XDDD, but if i NEED IT i can swap to a heal scroll and use it with no fail, with berserker i would need dismissing rage, swapping weapon and well, 3 or 4 secs at end maybe i'm dead)
    Last edited by psykopeta; 10-06-2013 at 03:58 AM.
    psykopeta - hoarding pl, for the sake of hoarding, the day i become ubercompletionist will be because there isn't anything to delay it more - thelanis, where the gimps claim to be pros and noobs claim to be pros, no newbies allowed(unless they claim to be pros), we have enough drama w/o them. PS i'm not a pro, maybe if i reincarnate in RL...

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    Quote Originally Posted by psykopeta View Post
    don't go pure, swap con with str, prolly swap race to horc too

    and, u have really these pl and tomes? if so i expected from you to build something more self sufficient, if not you'll NEED a hire + a healer, y, both maybe will be able to keep u alive XDDDD

    also i like more slayer than berserker (however i never swap my weapon to scroll/buff XDDD, but if i NEED IT i can swap to a heal scroll and use it with no fail, with berserker i would need dismissing rage, swapping weapon and well, 3 or 4 secs at end maybe i'm dead)
    So with the tomes and past lives I've got, what type of build would you suggest?(I still want to get past life barb when I TR)
    I've never done a multi class before. Can't seem to get them to work out
    Last edited by VernonM; 10-06-2013 at 04:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VernonM View Post
    So with the tomes and past lives I've got, what type of build would you suggest?(I still want to get past life barb when I TR)
    Just go a 10/8/2 barb/fighter/rogue, THF, spamming cleaves.

    Rogue at 1/2, barb at 3 (run speed), then 10 fighter levels, then barb 'till cap.

    Lots of feats, decent damage, self healing, evasion. (don't rage)

    Or be weird and go barb/wizard/rogue for displacement and haste. :P

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    [QUOTE=Soulfurnace;5123360]Just go a 10/8/2 barb/fighter/rogue, THF, spamming cleaves.

    Don't you need at least 12 lvls in a class to get the past life?

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    I HATE to say this :


    Quote Originally Posted by VernonM View Post
    Tell me where I went wrong please.
    Answer is this:


    Quote Originally Posted by VernonM View Post
    a barb build I want to try out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSFWEl View Post
    I HATE to say this :




    Answer is this:
    Ok, I'll bite.

    Now how do I fix It

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    Quote Originally Posted by VernonM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Soulfurnace View Post
    Just go a 10/8/2 barb/fighter/rogue, THF, spamming cleaves.
    Don't you need at least 12 lvls in a class to get the past life?
    Nope. Just majority. (Hence why some people do 8/8/4 builds.)

    Also, leave the [/quote] at the end if you're quoting someone. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by VernonM View Post
    Don't you need at least 12 lvls in a class to get the past life?
    nope, in fact u can get a pl with 7 lvls in class

    to qualify for a pl u just need to be it the 1st un number of lvls and/or the 1st in alphabetical order

    so 7 barb 7 bard 6 whatever would give you barb pl

    just look at what u want and aim for it :P

    with 12 lvls u can get the core from occult slayer that grants slippery mind (kinda useful)

    barb has good sinergy with bards and if you have a dreamspitter you can take 5 rogue and get the tier 5 of acrobat(only 1st core ofc) my 2nd barb life has 16% dodge with light armor which it's not specially bad, evade, slippery mind and never raged (my 1st life was 18 barb 2 fighter and sucks, the dps was a bit higher but no self healing isn't a good idea XD)

    also with 6 clr lvls u can get aura+burst, which is an efficient self healing way w/o swapping weapon(yes, i prefer occult slayer to berserker, haven't looked at ravager yet, maybe next life XD)

    there're lot of ways to get survivality, and the dps loss isn't that great(it depends mostly on feats and enhancements the dps u'll lose, unless u go berserker, for the 2nd and 4th core, which would make u need more healers to keep u alive XD)
    psykopeta - hoarding pl, for the sake of hoarding, the day i become ubercompletionist will be because there isn't anything to delay it more - thelanis, where the gimps claim to be pros and noobs claim to be pros, no newbies allowed(unless they claim to be pros), we have enough drama w/o them. PS i'm not a pro, maybe if i reincarnate in RL...

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