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    Update / bump time again. I am now lvl 26. I just picked up a ring of deceit last night. So after juggling some gear and augments here is where I am at:

    DPS set up:
    Goggles: Con opp - SP
    Head: EH black dragon - 8 con, 35 life, Globe of True Imperial Blood
    Armor: Flawless back - 14 PRR
    Gloves - PDK (I REALLY want to replace these. I just have no other way to get the 30% healing amp)
    Ring 1: Ring of Deceit - +2 char
    Ring 2: Ring of the Stalker - 20 toughness, + 7 heal (Will be upgraded soon)
    Neck : 175 SP, Deady 6 (looking for something better. Open to suggestions)
    Trinket: Planar Focus Prowess - 8 st.
    Belt : Smoke - HP (I am going to replace this with a Min 2 one or get a set of Goatskin with fort on them)
    Boot: 110% fort, speed (Once the belt is replaced these will prob be spiked or Goatskin if not.)
    Wrist: 20% healing amp, Superior Parrying
    Weapons: 2 x Celestia - main 1 has Planar set upgrade.
    126 poss spell power stick for aura.

    ED: LD
    Twists: Brace for impact, Primal Scream, Sense Weakness

    Healing setup:
    Goggles: Con opp - SP
    Head: EH black dragon - 8 con, 35 life, Globe of True Imperial Blood
    Armor: Flawless Green
    Gloves - PDK
    Ring 1: 108 pos spell power
    Ring 2: Signet of the Shining Sun
    Neck : 200 SP, 8 wis
    Trinket: Holy Symbol of Lolth
    Belt : Smoke - HP
    Boot: 110% fort, speed
    Wrist: 20% healing amp, Superior Parrying
    Weapons: Various caster sticks and heal scrolls

    ED: EA
    Twists: Brace for impact, Fey Form, Healing Hands

    Over all I am LOVING this setup. Can't really ask for more out of it. 2 x Celestia blinds most mobs fast. Add in all of the speed / damage boosts and I am just cutting up mobs. Once I replace the belt, boots and necklace I am not really sure what else will need tweaking at cap.

    I am debating if I will ETR, or just play at cap for a while. If anyone has a build that they like that they run in EA or US EDs I would love to see them. I just can not find a set up that I am willing to ETR 3-9 times with.
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    anyone else have a gear setup they'd care to recommend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wtorchia View Post
    Update / bump time again. I am now lvl 26. I just picked up a ring of deceit last night. So after juggling some gear and augments here is where I am at:

    DPS set up:
    Goggles: Con opp - SP
    Head: EH black dragon - 8 con, 35 life, Globe of True Imperial Blood
    Armor: Flawless back - 14 PRR
    Gloves - PDK (I REALLY want to replace these. I just have no other way to get the 30% healing amp)
    Ring 1: Ring of Deceit - +2 char
    Ring 2: Ring of the Stalker - 20 toughness, + 7 heal (Will be upgraded soon)
    Neck : 175 SP, Deady 6 (looking for something better. Open to suggestions)
    Trinket: Planar Focus Prowess - 8 st.
    Belt : Smoke - HP (I am going to replace this with a Min 2 one or get a set of Goatskin with fort on them)
    Boot: 110% fort, speed (Once the belt is replaced these will prob be spiked or Goatskin if not.)
    Wrist: 20% healing amp, Superior Parrying
    Weapons: 2 x Celestia - main 1 has Planar set upgrade.
    126 poss spell power stick for aura.

    ED: LD
    Twists: Brace for impact, Primal Scream, Sense Weakness

    Healing setup:
    Goggles: Con opp - SP
    Head: EH black dragon - 8 con, 35 life, Globe of True Imperial Blood
    Armor: Flawless Green
    Gloves - PDK
    Ring 1: 108 pos spell power
    Ring 2: Signet of the Shining Sun
    Neck : 200 SP, 8 wis
    Trinket: Holy Symbol of Lolth
    Belt : Smoke - HP
    Boot: 110% fort, speed
    Wrist: 20% healing amp, Superior Parrying
    Weapons: Various caster sticks and heal scrolls

    ED: EA
    Twists: Brace for impact, Fey Form, Healing Hands

    Over all I am LOVING this setup. Can't really ask for more out of it. 2 x Celestia blinds most mobs fast. Add in all of the speed / damage boosts and I am just cutting up mobs. Once I replace the belt, boots and necklace I am not really sure what else will need tweaking at cap.

    I am debating if I will ETR, or just play at cap for a while. If anyone has a build that they like that they run in EA or US EDs I would love to see them. I just can not find a set up that I am willing to ETR 3-9 times with.
    I hope when you say caster sticks you dont mean scepters or staff. You can find martial and exotic weapons with spell power, lore, and a red slot for ruby spell power. I like Scimitars for their critical range with Improved Critical slash feat. Kukri critical range is 18 to 20 also and good too for TWF.

    What are the Bracers that have healing amp and parry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by firemedium_jt View Post
    I hope when you say caster sticks you dont mean scepters or staff. You can find martial and exotic weapons with spell power, lore, and a red slot for ruby spell power. I like Scimitars for their critical range with Improved Critical slash feat. Kukri critical range is 18 to 20 also and good too for TWF.

    What are the Bracers that have healing amp and parry?
    i saw an item in the AH called lesser convalescence or something of that nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firemedium_jt View Post
    I hope when you say caster sticks you dont mean scepters or staff. You can find martial and exotic weapons with spell power, lore, and a red slot for ruby spell power. I like Scimitars for their critical range with Improved Critical slash feat. Kukri critical range is 18 to 20 also and good too for TWF.

    What are the Bracers that have healing amp and parry?
    Convalescent. They no longer drop. When the loot tables were revamped last year they were taken out and they've yet to be put back in. You can ocassionally see them on the auction house, usually for crazy high prices.

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    Default This build is a lot of fun

    I TR'd my caster spec cleric into a purple dragon knight version of this build.

    I'm having a blast with it. By far the most fun I've had with a melee build.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxxyk View Post
    I TR'd my caster spec cleric into a purple dragon knight version of this build.

    I'm having a blast with it. By far the most fun I've had with a melee build.

    Thanks!

    came across this thread while I was searching for ideas on the same thing. I have a caster cleric I decided to move to melee and was thinking PDK to start. Though I'm also looking at divine crusader rather than unyielding sentinel, as a possibility.

    Question for anyone out there. I'm just not feeling the THF; regardless of the fact I know it's quite a bit less effective, I'm thinking classic cleric sword and board. Can anyone give me some ideas for (or point me to) a build with sword and board? I'd rather not reinvent the wheel if I don't need to.

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    Here's a summary of what I've gotten from this thread for easy reference.

    THF
    32pt: 16/10/14/10/10/16 (could drop CHA to 14 and boost DEX to 14 for reflex saves, as OP suggests)
    34pt: 16/12/14/10/10/16 (or 14 Dex/15 Cha)
    36pt: 16/14/14/10/10/16
    Personally, I think the extra Cha bonus would be more worthwhile than +28 hp at level 28, but maybe not.

    1: Power Attack
    1h: empower healing
    2f: cleave
    3: thf
    6: great cleave
    9: maximize
    12: ic: slash
    15: ithf
    18: gthf
    21: quicken
    24: overwhelming crit
    26e: perfect thf
    27: Blinding speed
    28e: perfect twf/other?

    Human – 17 pts
    tier 3 healing amp
    Purple Dragon Aura (+2 saves) (if PDK)

    Radiant Servant – Cap 32/33 pts

    Warpriest – 10-15 pts
    hp, dr 5/-, divine might, 10prr and inflame
    ameliorating strike?

    Kensai – 4 pts
    haste boost

    Divine Disciple – 9 pts?
    saves, SP

    TWF
    36 pt: 16/14/14/10/10/16
    32 pt: drop CHA 2

    1: Power Attack
    1h: empower healing
    2f: cleave
    3: twf
    6: great cleave
    9: maximize
    12: itwf
    15: gtwf
    18: ic: slashing
    21: quicken
    24: overwhelming crit
    26e: perfect twf
    27: Blinding speed
    28e: toughness/guardian angel/other?
    Last edited by pafunk; 06-16-2014 at 05:05 PM.

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    Any thoughts on adapting this build to SWF+orb combo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Any thoughts on adapting this build to SWF+orb combo?
    Keeping Concentration, Heal, and Balance as high as you can, you should be able to take Improved SWF at 9 and Greater SWF at 15 (you should hit balance 7 at lvl 13). With a +2 INT tome at 7 you can get UMD up to 10 (without it you only get 3). IC and Maximize are taken at 12 or 18. Sounds like you can't take Perfect TWF, so take toughness or something else. SWF looks pretty appealing with this build - downside is ameliorating strike will heal for less. This is with longswords/Sovereign Host for favored weapon bonuses - if you're using an exotic weapon my guess would be to bump metamagic feats back. Or maybe dwarf if you're into flavor builds.

    EDIT: Here's one way to arrange feats with a weapon proficiency. You end up losing a metamagic feat.

    1: Power Attack
    1h: Cleave
    2f: weapon proficiency: bastard sword
    3: swf
    6: great cleave
    9: improved swf
    12: improved critical: slashing OR metamagic feat
    15: greater swf
    18: empower healing/maximize OR improved critical
    21: quicken/maximize
    24: overwhelming crit
    26e: perfect swf
    27: Blinding speed
    28e: perfect twf (if possible) or ????
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    Quote Originally Posted by pafunk View Post
    Here's a summary of what I've gotten from this thread for easy reference.

    THF
    32pt: 16/10/14/10/10/16 (could drop CHA to 14 and boost DEX to 14 for reflex saves, as OP suggests)
    ...
    1: Power Attack
    1h: empower healing
    2f: cleave
    3: thf
    6: great cleave
    9: maximize
    12: ic: slash
    15: ithf
    18: gthf
    21: quicken
    24: overwhelming crit
    26e: perfect thf
    27: Blinding speed
    28e: perfect twf/other?

    Human – 17 pts
    tier 3 healing amp
    Purple Dragon Aura (+2 saves) (if PDK)

    Radiant Servant – Cap 32/33 pts

    Warpriest – 10-15 pts
    hp, dr 5/-, divine might, 10prr and inflame
    ameliorating strike?

    Kensai – 4 pts
    haste boost

    Divine Disciple – 9 pts?
    saves, SP
    ...
    Thanks for the summary.

    Would the above be a good stats starting point for a new F2P character with access to 32 point builds but no prior gear or tomes?

    If you were a true F2P at 28 points would you reduce as follows?:

    28pt: 16/10/14/10/10/14

    Without tomes until level 20 the max wisdom item you will be able to get would be a +6 item so likely would need to take multiple wisdom bonuses from human and cleric trees until you get the commendation or other gear at 20+ giving at least +9 from some combo (+7enh, +2ins, +1exc, racial, class). As long as that was understood I don't know why it couldn't be a new player friendly build...

    EDIT: Overall I like the feat line up though personally for me if I was the main healer in the party or solo I would want quicken much earlier for no fail heals...

    I assume that taking maximize at level 9 is to get the most out of Divine Punishment at 10 and Blade Barrier at 12 due to taking Fighter at level 2 (assuming saving Paladin till later levels).

    Would the following be better if you were the main healer (who also wants to melee) in a new F2P party?:

    1: Power Attack
    1h: empower healing
    2f: cleave
    3: thf
    6: great cleave
    9: maximize
    12: quicken
    15: ic: slash
    18: ithf
    21: gthf
    24: overwhelming crit
    26e: perfect thf
    27: Blinding speed
    28e: perfect twf/other?
    Last edited by Nodoze; 07-06-2014 at 09:14 PM. Reason: thoughs re helping a new F2P player...

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    is similar build will be still playable if i take cleric17/paladin3 without the fighter level?

    what feats will i dump? (in two handed weapon version)

    I am asking because of the upcoming balance of divine grace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lalangamena View Post
    is similar build will be still playable if i take cleric17/paladin3 without the fighter level?

    what feats will i dump? (in two handed weapon version)

    I am asking because of the upcoming balance of divine grace.
    probably maximize and gthf...unfortunately there's no spot to put it back in unless you don't take blinding speed, but since glancing blows don't work when you're moving it's probably the best way to do it

    re : SWF and orbs...don't you need to be in swashbuckler stance for orbs to work with SWF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by painkiller3 View Post
    probably maximize and gthf...unfortunately there's no spot to put it back in unless you don't take blinding speed, but since glancing blows don't work when you're moving it's probably the best way to do it

    re : SWF and orbs...don't you need to be in swashbuckler stance for orbs to work with SWF?
    no.
    you can have nothing or orb, 2 levels of artificer adds runearm, t3 or t4 (dont remembeR) swashbuckler adds bucklers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vellrad View Post
    no.
    you can have nothing or orb, 2 levels of artificer adds runearm, t3 or t4 (dont remembeR) swashbuckler adds bucklers.
    very cool, i misunderstood it...you need t3 to swashbuckle with orbs/runearms, but that doesn't affect SWF without it. sorry for spreading misinformation :s

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    Default Update this build with nerf to Divine Grace?

    I have been playing this build and loving it.

    Now that the Devs have confirmed the nerf to Divine Grace, does this build still make sense with 2 levels of Pally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxxyk View Post
    I have been playing this build and loving it.

    Now that the Devs have confirmed the nerf to Divine Grace, does this build still make sense with 2 levels of Pally?
    Good news is you don't have to take cleave and great cleave for overwhelming critical though.

    I'm coming back to the game after taking a two year break. Does Stunning Fist still work well? I looked at the wiki and it says it still uses character level for the DC and not Monk levels like what had been proposed.
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    How would you build this for u23 with the pally updates etc?

    17 Cleric 3 Paladin for the stance and +3 saves?
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    I would take PAL tier 2 exalted cleave and replace your cleave shortcut hotkey with it.

    With PAL3 u might look at Exalted Smite but I read the animation is bugged.

    I just cant see dropping FTR1 and I think we might need CLR17 for the expansion. I will wait after that to change CLR17 to 15 or 13 although the +5LR is on sale. I like the action boosts from ftr tier 1 for haste and human damage boost.

    If you are a strike down cleaver type build with all the special attacks that interupt normal attacks do u need ftr haste?
    Last edited by firemedium_jt; 11-27-2014 at 10:24 AM.
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