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    Lightbulb The Spam-Machine, made in Germany 14 Sorc / 4 FvS / 2 Paladin

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!! NEW NEW NEW NEW NEW changed Build in POST No.7 in this THREAD !!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Hi, as i just read a discussion about the split with 4 fvs lvl in it, i decided to post my actual Sorc build for u.

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    Race, Alignment & Classes
    Human - lawful good - 14 Sorcerer / 4 FVS / 2 Paladin

    (36 Point-Build) - Past-Lifes: 3 x Wizard
    Starting Stats
    Strength 8
    Dexterity 10
    Constitution 18
    Intelligence 10
    Wisdom 8
    Charisma 18 - all lvl ups here
    (+3 tomes for Dex/Con needed, for Int +4 if u wanna get some UMD too)

    Skills
    Spellcraft max
    Concentration max
    Diplomacy max
    Tumble 1
    UMD 5
    Bluff 1

    Feats
    1 - Force of Personality
    1 - Toughness
    3 - Extend Spell
    6 - Mental Toughness
    9 - Maximize
    12 - Improved Mental Toughness
    15 - Dodge
    18 - Mobility
    21 - Epic Mental Toughness
    24 - Epic Toughness
    27 - Ruin

    Destiny Feats
    26 - Epic Spell Power Force
    28 - Forced Escape ( i test it atm, but will change to Epic Spell Power Fire i think )

    Spells

    LVL - Name (fat ones are the important ones)
    1 - Jump, Magic Missile, Nightshield, Protection from Evil
    2 - Resist Energy, Knock, Scorching Ray, Gust of Wind
    3 - Displacement, Chain Missiles, Haste, Rage (will change maybe Haste for Sleet Storm, but can cast that of Scrolls too)
    4 - Dimension Door, Force Missiles, Enervation, Ice Storm
    5 - Cloudkill, Niac's, Eladar's
    6 - Acid Fog, Greater Heroism
    7 - Otto's Sphere of Dancing (atm mostly for EH XP/Item farming runs - there it works well)

    Enhancements


    Here i have to change when Server online again, 1 Charisma (got uneven atm) to something else, dont know yet what, maybe some in the Warpriest Tree

    Human Race (5 AP)
    Core - Human Versatility Spell Power Boost (1 AP), Human Adaptability +1 Charisma (2 AP)
    Tier 1 - Improved Recovery (2 AP)

    FvS - Angel of Vengeance ( 33 AP )
    Core: Font of Power (1AP), Shield of Condemnation (1AP)
    Tier 1 - Scourge 3/3 (3 AP), Smiting (2 AP), Animus 2/3 (2 AP)
    Tier 2 - Just Rewarded 3/3 (3 AP), Smiting (2 AP), Spell Power Boost (3 AP)
    Tier 3 - Smiting (2 AP), Charisma (2 AP), Spell Penetration (2 AP)
    Tier 4 - Smiting (2 AP), Charisma (2 AP), Intense Faith 3/3 (6 AP)

    Sorcerer - Fire Savant ( 34 AP )
    Core: Fire Savant (1 AP), Fire Affinity (1 AP), Greater Fire Affinity (1 AP), Immolation (1 AP)
    Tier 1 - Spell Crit Fire (2 AP), Conflagration 3/3 (3 AP)
    Tier 2 - Spell Crit Fire (2 AP), Fanning the Flames 3/3 (3 AP), Efficient Maximize 3/3 (6 AP)
    Tier 3 - Spell Crit Fire (2 AP), Charisma (2 AP), Spell Penetration (2 AP)
    Tier 4 - Spell Crit Fire (2 AP), Charisma (2 AP)
    Tier 5 - Awaken Elemental Weakness Fire (2 AP), Elemental Diversification Power of Force (2 AP)

    FvS - Warpriest (8 AP)
    Core - Smite Foe (1 AP)
    Tier 1 - Toughness 3/3 (3 AP), Awareness 1/3 (1 AP)
    Tier 2 - Wall of Steel 3/3 (3 AP)

    Epci Destiny / Twists
    Epic Destiny: Shiradi Champion
    Twist of Fades: Cocoon, Unearthly Reactions, Energy Burst

    Here are my Stats with actual Gear, Shipbuffs and Buffs i get from my Spells (no scrolls, wands or potions!)
    Hit-Points: 863
    Spellpoints: 3211
    Constitution: 40
    Charisma: 51 (will remove 1 in enhancements soon)
    Saves: 69 / 68 / 76
    Dodge: 20 %

    and much more...

    nearly endless Spellpoints with the Enhancements, Spell-Crits with the right gear Force/Fire ~30, selfheal with Cocoon high enough with good HealingAmp, can use all scrolls, good saves and and and... i like it

    Last edited by Zotze; 01-31-2014 at 07:31 PM.
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    Zangesh qui Clades (Lvl.28), Fire Shiradi Sorc - Bladeforged 14 Sorc / 4 FvS / 2 Pala
    (3xPL Wizard, 1xPL Sorcerer | Epic Completionist 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Fast Healing, 3x Engery Criticals, 3x Brace, 3x Skill Mastery, 3x Doubleshot, 1xDoublestrike)
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    Laladi (Lvl.28), Khopesh+Shield Pally - PDK 20 Pala
    (Heroic Completionist | 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Doublestrike, 2x Enchant Weapon, 2x Power over Life and Death)
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    Zindragh Zornbinder (Lvl.28), Shuricannon - Drow 20 Monk
    (1xPL Fighter, 3xPL Monk, 1xPL Rouge | 1x Colors of the Queen, 2x Doublestrike, 1x Doubleshot)
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    Aibus (Lvl.28) Tank - Purple Dragon Knight 13 FvS / 6 Pala / 1 Fig
    (1xPL Monk, 3xPL Pala)

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    The Build posted has much of the gear but not yet all, so its not maxed at all...

    Endgame-Gear

    Helm - Blue Dragon Helm (EH or EE) with Ins.Charisma +3, +40 HP, Globe of Imperial Blood

    Armor - Flawless Blue Dragon Robe, Greater Spell Focus Enchentment

    Cloak - Epci Cloak of Night

    Trinket - Idol of Fortune, +250 SP

    Necklace - Stolen Necklace with Spellcraft +19 (EE), +15 Concentration

    Googles - Greensteel Googles HP or SP, it's up to u, i use the HP-Googles right now

    Bracers - Sage's Cuffs / Convalescant Bracers of Parrying just what u need in the actual situation, but >95% it will be the Sage's Cuffs

    Gloves - Purple Dragon Knight Gauntlets

    Belt - Random Loot i wear one with Constitution +10, Dodge 10%

    Boots - Halcyon Boots, +15 Diplomacy, +20 Vitality

    Ring 1 - Guardian Ring, +15 Heal

    Ring 2 - Ring of Stormreaver Prophecy (EE), Resistance +8, +15 Perform here i wait for a better Random Resistance Ring...

    Weapons - Random Loot here u need two one-handed Weapons, best with +10 enhancement and max.Force-and Firespellpower on it, also Fire Spell Crit max and a Red Augment Slot for Devotion. With Luck u may get also a better Enchantment Focus on one with all others, that would be the best. Iam still searching for the right weapons, harder on a tiny Server, AH is dead ;-) Right now iam still using the Twilight + Planar Focus
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    Zangesh qui Clades (Lvl.28), Fire Shiradi Sorc - Bladeforged 14 Sorc / 4 FvS / 2 Pala
    (3xPL Wizard, 1xPL Sorcerer | Epic Completionist 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Fast Healing, 3x Engery Criticals, 3x Brace, 3x Skill Mastery, 3x Doubleshot, 1xDoublestrike)
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    Laladi (Lvl.28), Khopesh+Shield Pally - PDK 20 Pala
    (Heroic Completionist | 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Doublestrike, 2x Enchant Weapon, 2x Power over Life and Death)
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    Zindragh Zornbinder (Lvl.28), Shuricannon - Drow 20 Monk
    (1xPL Fighter, 3xPL Monk, 1xPL Rouge | 1x Colors of the Queen, 2x Doublestrike, 1x Doubleshot)
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    Aibus (Lvl.28) Tank - Purple Dragon Knight 13 FvS / 6 Pala / 1 Fig
    (1xPL Monk, 3xPL Pala)

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    At what level do you take the Padin/FvS levels?

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    Except how do you damage things like wizking or golem in VoN 5? Might consider dropping disco ball and grabbing disintegrate for some more versatility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jskinner937 View Post
    Except how do you damage things like wizking or golem in VoN 5? Might consider dropping disco ball and grabbing disintegrate for some more versatility.
    there are only really rare mobs which are a little problem to me - most time i have other ppl in my group who can help out then. Also i have at lvl28 now Ruin which works on nearly every enemy. But if u wanna drop disco ball, its ok for that.

    Will post the next days my actual Bladeforged Build i use. Here u can solo easy EE - this week run all Quests for Saga on EE solo.
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    Zangesh qui Clades (Lvl.28), Fire Shiradi Sorc - Bladeforged 14 Sorc / 4 FvS / 2 Pala
    (3xPL Wizard, 1xPL Sorcerer | Epic Completionist 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Fast Healing, 3x Engery Criticals, 3x Brace, 3x Skill Mastery, 3x Doubleshot, 1xDoublestrike)
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    Laladi (Lvl.28), Khopesh+Shield Pally - PDK 20 Pala
    (Heroic Completionist | 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Doublestrike, 2x Enchant Weapon, 2x Power over Life and Death)
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    Zindragh Zornbinder (Lvl.28), Shuricannon - Drow 20 Monk
    (1xPL Fighter, 3xPL Monk, 1xPL Rouge | 1x Colors of the Queen, 2x Doublestrike, 1x Doubleshot)
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    Aibus (Lvl.28) Tank - Purple Dragon Knight 13 FvS / 6 Pala / 1 Fig
    (1xPL Monk, 3xPL Pala)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aukschun View Post
    At what level do you take the Padin/FvS levels?
    never worried about that, cause i jumped with a XP-Stone, but it depends on the way u level. If u play much solo or leveling with others.
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    Zangesh qui Clades (Lvl.28), Fire Shiradi Sorc - Bladeforged 14 Sorc / 4 FvS / 2 Pala
    (3xPL Wizard, 1xPL Sorcerer | Epic Completionist 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Fast Healing, 3x Engery Criticals, 3x Brace, 3x Skill Mastery, 3x Doubleshot, 1xDoublestrike)
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    Laladi (Lvl.28), Khopesh+Shield Pally - PDK 20 Pala
    (Heroic Completionist | 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Doublestrike, 2x Enchant Weapon, 2x Power over Life and Death)
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    Zindragh Zornbinder (Lvl.28), Shuricannon - Drow 20 Monk
    (1xPL Fighter, 3xPL Monk, 1xPL Rouge | 1x Colors of the Queen, 2x Doublestrike, 1x Doubleshot)
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    Aibus (Lvl.28) Tank - Purple Dragon Knight 13 FvS / 6 Pala / 1 Fig
    (1xPL Monk, 3xPL Pala)

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    Default New changed build ! Better !!!

    Zangesh qui Clades

    14 Sorcerer / 4 FvS / 2 Paladin toon on lvl 28 on the sweet Server Wayfinder - yes we are still alive and having fun! :-)
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    Race, Alignment & Classes
    Bladeforged - lawful good - 14 Sorcerer / 4 FVS / 2 Paladin

    (36 Point-Build) - Past-Lifes: 3 x Wizard, 1 x Sorcerer | Epic Past-Lifes: 3 x Color of the Queen, 3 x Energy Criticals, 1 x Brace, 1 x Skill Mastery
    Starting Stats
    Strength 8
    Dexterity 6
    Constitution 20
    Intelligence 12
    Wisdom 6
    Charisma 18 - all lvl ups here
    (+3 tomes for Con needed)

    Skills
    Spellcraft max
    Concentration max
    Diplomacy max
    Tumble 1
    UMD 6
    Perform 1
    Repair 1

    Feats
    1 - Toughness
    3 - Extend Spell
    6 - Mental Toughness
    9 - Quicken
    12 - Improved Mental Toughness
    15 - Maximize
    18 - Force of Personality
    21 - Epic Mental Toughness
    24 - Epic Toughness
    27 - Ruin

    Destiny Feats
    26 - Epic Spell Power Fire
    28 - Epic Spell Power Force

    Spells

    LVL - Name (fat ones are the important ones)
    1 - Jump, Magic Missile, Shield, Protection from Evil
    2 - Resist Energy, Knock, Scorching Ray, Gust of Wind
    3 - Displacement, Chain Missiles, Sleet Storm, Rage
    4 - Dimension Door, Ice Storm, Solid Fog, Force Missiles
    5 - Cloudkill, Protection from Elements, Eladar's
    6 - Reconstruct, Greater Heroism
    7 - Otto's Sphere of Dancing (atm mostly for EH XP/Item farming runs - there it works well, but also for Procs on EE and also some dancing)

    Enhancements


    Bladeforged Race (16 AP)
    Core - Improved Fortification (1 AP), Warforged Constitution (2 AP), Improved Fortification (1 AP), Warforged Constitution (2 AP)
    Tier 1 - Mechanist 1/3 (2 AP), Inscribed Armor 1/3 (1 AP)
    Tier 2 - Communion of Scribing 3/3 (6 AP)
    Tier 4 - Power of the Forge (1 AP)

    FvS - Angel of Vengeance ( 30 AP )
    Core: Font of Power (1AP), Shield of Condemnation (1AP)
    Tier 1 - Scourge 3/3 (3 AP), Smiting (2 AP), Animus 1/3 (1 AP)
    Tier 2 - Just Rewarded 3/3 (3 AP), Smiting (2 AP), Spell Power Boost (3 AP)
    Tier 3 - Smiting (2 AP), Charisma (2 AP)
    Tier 4 - Smiting (2 AP), Charisma (2 AP), Intense Faith 3/3 (6 AP)

    Sorcerer - Fire Savant ( 34 AP )
    Core: Fire Savant (1 AP), Fire Affinity (1 AP), Greater Fire Affinity (1 AP), Immolation (1 AP)
    Tier 1 - Spell Crit Fire (2 AP), Conflagration 3/3 (3 AP)
    Tier 2 - Spell Crit Fire (2 AP), Fanning the Flames 3/3 (3 AP), Efficient Quicken 3/3 (6 AP)
    Tier 3 - Spell Crit Fire (2 AP), Charisma (2 AP), Spell Penetration (2 AP)
    Tier 4 - Spell Crit Fire (2 AP), Charisma (2 AP)
    Tier 5 - Awaken Elemental Weakness Fire (2 AP), Elemental Diversification Power of Force (2 AP)


    Epic Destiny / Twists
    Epic Destiny: Shiradi Champion
    Twist of Fades: Boulder Toss (hits about ~2-8k for free), Unearthly Reactions, Energy Burst



    Here are my Stats with actual Gear, Shipbuffs and Buffs i get from my Spells (no scrolls, wands or potions!)
    Hit-Points: 867
    Spellpoints: 3236
    Constitution: 44
    Charisma: 50
    Saves: 73 / 65 / 78
    Dodge: 17 %

    and much more...


    Last edited by Zotze; 01-31-2014 at 07:37 PM.
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    Zangesh qui Clades (Lvl.28), Fire Shiradi Sorc - Bladeforged 14 Sorc / 4 FvS / 2 Pala
    (3xPL Wizard, 1xPL Sorcerer | Epic Completionist 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Fast Healing, 3x Engery Criticals, 3x Brace, 3x Skill Mastery, 3x Doubleshot, 1xDoublestrike)
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    Laladi (Lvl.28), Khopesh+Shield Pally - PDK 20 Pala
    (Heroic Completionist | 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Doublestrike, 2x Enchant Weapon, 2x Power over Life and Death)
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    Zindragh Zornbinder (Lvl.28), Shuricannon - Drow 20 Monk
    (1xPL Fighter, 3xPL Monk, 1xPL Rouge | 1x Colors of the Queen, 2x Doublestrike, 1x Doubleshot)
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    Aibus (Lvl.28) Tank - Purple Dragon Knight 13 FvS / 6 Pala / 1 Fig
    (1xPL Monk, 3xPL Pala)

    - man nannte ihn Zangesh qui Clades -

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    Hi Zang, thanks for posting, nice build.
    I need to pike with you more often.

    Cutie/Dyfen/Vimka/etc.


    Edit: Questions:
    1) Do you still need the reconstruct spell or is SLA enough?
    2) Diplomacy. Why maxed? Are you using it also to shed aggro or only for the audience? Because for audience you get the best result at 40, increasing the skill any further does not help you. (AFAIK)


    @thesnoman: OP's original human build was posted before your toaster, so it's hard to tell who copied what. Just saying.
    Last edited by cru121; 02-01-2014 at 07:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cru121 View Post

    Edit: Questions:
    1) Do you still need the reconstruct spell or is SLA enough?
    2) Diplomacy. Why maxed? Are you using it also to shed aggro or only for the audience? Because for audience you get the best result at 40, increasing the skill any further does not help you. (AFAIK)
    Hi Vimka

    1.) In some cases, depending on my aggressiv playstyle, like grapping agro of 10-15 Mobs, then placing fogs and start killing them while jumping in/around them, its recommed to get both Reconstruct. Also its possible to fail one, so u have the "panic-Button" Reconstruct of the Sorc, which is with quicken instant cast, the SLA is a little bit slower.

    2.) Jeah, i use it in special cases for losing agro on mobs, like in Raids (FOT if i get agro of a enemy i dont need/Want). Also its nice to use it in some optionals.
    EDIT: AND i dont need it in other skills like UMD - have enough in endgame unbuffed for ressurection, or repair or anything else (Recon does about 650 HP and i dont want to recon too late at under 200 HP ) Also its the better option to Bluff, which is still in some quest high enough to make bluff.rolls on optionals cause of the high cha-mod.
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    Zangesh qui Clades (Lvl.28), Fire Shiradi Sorc - Bladeforged 14 Sorc / 4 FvS / 2 Pala
    (3xPL Wizard, 1xPL Sorcerer | Epic Completionist 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Fast Healing, 3x Engery Criticals, 3x Brace, 3x Skill Mastery, 3x Doubleshot, 1xDoublestrike)
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    Laladi (Lvl.28), Khopesh+Shield Pally - PDK 20 Pala
    (Heroic Completionist | 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Doublestrike, 2x Enchant Weapon, 2x Power over Life and Death)
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    Zindragh Zornbinder (Lvl.28), Shuricannon - Drow 20 Monk
    (1xPL Fighter, 3xPL Monk, 1xPL Rouge | 1x Colors of the Queen, 2x Doublestrike, 1x Doubleshot)
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    Aibus (Lvl.28) Tank - Purple Dragon Knight 13 FvS / 6 Pala / 1 Fig
    (1xPL Monk, 3xPL Pala)

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    I have been playing this build for about a week now, and so far its pretty cool, currently level 27 with it.
    The only problem is evasion, the lack of is very annoying, would be able to go through any traps, but instead get half damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aulldeath View Post
    I have been playing this build for about a week now, and so far its pretty cool, currently level 27 with it.
    The only problem is evasion, the lack of is very annoying, would be able to go through any traps, but instead get half damage.
    its nice to have evasion, thats right, but its just a click on recon and u are full of health again. In my opinion its better to have high saves with paladin and getting only half damage instead of low saves and evasion, cause in EE that wouldnt work any more.
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    Zangesh qui Clades (Lvl.28), Fire Shiradi Sorc - Bladeforged 14 Sorc / 4 FvS / 2 Pala
    (3xPL Wizard, 1xPL Sorcerer | Epic Completionist 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Fast Healing, 3x Engery Criticals, 3x Brace, 3x Skill Mastery, 3x Doubleshot, 1xDoublestrike)
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    Laladi (Lvl.28), Khopesh+Shield Pally - PDK 20 Pala
    (Heroic Completionist | 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Doublestrike, 2x Enchant Weapon, 2x Power over Life and Death)
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    Zindragh Zornbinder (Lvl.28), Shuricannon - Drow 20 Monk
    (1xPL Fighter, 3xPL Monk, 1xPL Rouge | 1x Colors of the Queen, 2x Doublestrike, 1x Doubleshot)
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    Aibus (Lvl.28) Tank - Purple Dragon Knight 13 FvS / 6 Pala / 1 Fig
    (1xPL Monk, 3xPL Pala)

    - man nannte ihn Zangesh qui Clades -

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    Cleaned up the thread. The argument over who came up with what first is not necessary. Everyone can post up their builds and call it whatever they want, no need to debate it.
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    I apologize if I'm missing something really obvious but where is Empower Spell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nayus View Post
    I apologize if I'm missing something really obvious but where is Empower Spell?
    Not taken, cause i dont really feel and believe that the damage of the procs are affected by empore/Maximize if gernal turned of for your casting spells, but turned on for all.
    Tested a little bit only and dont feel its more dps if turned off or on.

    Maximize is for me only for Ruin later.

    But if u believe in the proc affecting empower/maximize u easily can change Force of Personality for Empower.

    I will make some more tests the next weeks when i have more time.
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    Zangesh qui Clades (Lvl.28), Fire Shiradi Sorc - Bladeforged 14 Sorc / 4 FvS / 2 Pala
    (3xPL Wizard, 1xPL Sorcerer | Epic Completionist 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Fast Healing, 3x Engery Criticals, 3x Brace, 3x Skill Mastery, 3x Doubleshot, 1xDoublestrike)
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    Laladi (Lvl.28), Khopesh+Shield Pally - PDK 20 Pala
    (Heroic Completionist | 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Doublestrike, 2x Enchant Weapon, 2x Power over Life and Death)
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    Zindragh Zornbinder (Lvl.28), Shuricannon - Drow 20 Monk
    (1xPL Fighter, 3xPL Monk, 1xPL Rouge | 1x Colors of the Queen, 2x Doublestrike, 1x Doubleshot)
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    Aibus (Lvl.28) Tank - Purple Dragon Knight 13 FvS / 6 Pala / 1 Fig
    (1xPL Monk, 3xPL Pala)

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    I can confirm that maximize and empower both effect Shiradi Procs. I posted test results elsewhere and can't seem to remember where, but here's how I conducted the test:

    Claw of Vulkoor - Sobrien on EE

    Using Stay Frosty and casting ONLY Scorching Ray, kill Sobrien and watch the purple numbers fly. (I tested with double rainbow and the random procs were too hard to follow - with Stay Frosty and Scorching Ray way you only see the damage from Procs since he is obviously immune to fire)

    You will notice a significant difference between meta'd and un-meta'd procs.

    I have run 4 Shiradi Sorc Lives and I never took Max/Emp until I LR'd my 3rd life - which is when I did this test. I was seriously kicking myself for not taking it before then.

    There are several things I would change about the build overall, but it is a solid build and my choices reflect my play style vs Zotze's
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesnoman View Post
    I can confirm that maximize and empower both effect Shiradi Procs. I posted test results elsewhere and can't seem to remember where, but here's how I conducted the test:

    Claw of Vulkoor - Sobrien on EE

    Using Stay Frosty and casting ONLY Scorching Ray, kill Sobrien and watch the purple numbers fly. (I tested with double rainbow and the random procs were too hard to follow - with Stay Frosty and Scorching Ray way you only see the damage from Procs since he is obviously immune to fire)

    You will notice a significant difference between meta'd and un-meta'd procs.

    I have run 4 Shiradi Sorc Lives and I never took Max/Emp until I LR'd my 3rd life - which is when I did this test. I was seriously kicking myself for not taking it before then.

    There are several things I would change about the build overall, but it is a solid build and my choices reflect my play style vs Zotze's
    You mean increased damage with metas on but disabled on the spell? I distinctly remember someone else saying that that wasn't the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtomicMew View Post
    You mean increased damage with metas on but disabled on the spell? I distinctly remember someone else saying that that wasn't the case.
    At one point I did not believe it was the case, nor did I believe it was worth it to take Max/Emp on a Shiradi. On certain Shiradi builds I still don't recommend it - Including 18/2 Pally (where you are primarily focused on defence and not so much on offense). After hearing it from multiple sources I finally took it upon myself to test it out because in regular play it was very difficult to really see the difference. I took some time to dig out my testing post and here it is:

    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...37#post5174737

    Unless it has changed since November - which would require about 15 minutes of testing to find out - I will continue to suggest Max/Emp on any Sorc/FvS flavored Shiradi.
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    [QUOTE=Zotze;5242266]Zangesh qui Clades

    14 Sorcerer / 4 FvS / 2 Paladin toon on lvl 28 on the sweet Server Wayfinder - yes we are still alive and having fun! :-)
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    Race, Alignment & Classes
    Bladeforged - lawful good - 14 Sorcerer / 4 FVS / 2 Paladin

    (36 Point-Build) - Past-Lifes: 3 x Wizard, 1 x Sorcerer | Epic Past-Lifes: 3 x Color of the Queen, 3 x Energy Criticals, 1 x Brace, 1 x Skill Mastery
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    Strength 8
    Dexterity 6
    Constitution 20
    Intelligence 12
    Wisdom 6
    Charisma 18 - all lvl ups here
    (+3 tomes for Con needed)

    Constitution 18 all lvl ups here

    u can get mor hp,cha lvl u,just get 87 sp

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    Quote Originally Posted by east12cb View Post

    u can get mor hp,cha lvl u,just get 87 sp
    The LVL-Ups are not for Spellpoints. Spellpoints is the last this Build need - High Charisma = High Saves and High DC
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    Zangesh qui Clades (Lvl.28), Fire Shiradi Sorc - Bladeforged 14 Sorc / 4 FvS / 2 Pala
    (3xPL Wizard, 1xPL Sorcerer | Epic Completionist 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Fast Healing, 3x Engery Criticals, 3x Brace, 3x Skill Mastery, 3x Doubleshot, 1xDoublestrike)
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    Laladi (Lvl.28), Khopesh+Shield Pally - PDK 20 Pala
    (Heroic Completionist | 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Doublestrike, 2x Enchant Weapon, 2x Power over Life and Death)
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    Zindragh Zornbinder (Lvl.28), Shuricannon - Drow 20 Monk
    (1xPL Fighter, 3xPL Monk, 1xPL Rouge | 1x Colors of the Queen, 2x Doublestrike, 1x Doubleshot)
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    Aibus (Lvl.28) Tank - Purple Dragon Knight 13 FvS / 6 Pala / 1 Fig
    (1xPL Monk, 3xPL Pala)

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    Cool

    will come tomorrow with my new gear list, nearly have all ingame complete, only tier 3 of my weapon missing.

    greetings to all you Shiradi-Sorcs out there ! :-)
    - Proud Officer of Decameron / Cannith -

    Zangesh qui Clades (Lvl.28), Fire Shiradi Sorc - Bladeforged 14 Sorc / 4 FvS / 2 Pala
    (3xPL Wizard, 1xPL Sorcerer | Epic Completionist 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Fast Healing, 3x Engery Criticals, 3x Brace, 3x Skill Mastery, 3x Doubleshot, 1xDoublestrike)
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    Laladi (Lvl.28), Khopesh+Shield Pally - PDK 20 Pala
    (Heroic Completionist | 3x Colors of the Queen, 3x Doublestrike, 2x Enchant Weapon, 2x Power over Life and Death)
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    Zindragh Zornbinder (Lvl.28), Shuricannon - Drow 20 Monk
    (1xPL Fighter, 3xPL Monk, 1xPL Rouge | 1x Colors of the Queen, 2x Doublestrike, 1x Doubleshot)
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    Aibus (Lvl.28) Tank - Purple Dragon Knight 13 FvS / 6 Pala / 1 Fig
    (1xPL Monk, 3xPL Pala)

    - man nannte ihn Zangesh qui Clades -

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