Someone else is *actually* suppose to jheal me?
It's not exactly surprising that a class not really designed for damage output would put out less damage than one that is.
As for the childish "play with better players" nonsense, the obvious retort is that if the divine is so much better than the non-divines, you should play with better non-divines.
psykopeta - hoarding pl, for the sake of hoarding, the day i become ubercompletionist will be because there isn't anything to delay it more - thelanis, where the gimps claim to be pros and noobs claim to be pros, no newbies allowed(unless they claim to be pros), we have enough drama w/o them. PS i'm not a pro, maybe if i reincarnate in RL...
The truth is these kinds of "thanks" are simply a product of the social grace and etiquette of the person offering thanks, and have no relevance to the skill, talents, or ability of the person who is doing the job or task.
Case in point: The delivery person gets a thanks for dropping off a box, more often a Hello and a smile, and perhaps a thanks falls in there for purely social puffery reasons. But they are just doing their job and I am doing mine, everyone knows this, we are working stiffs all of us, so we may as well be cardinal to each other. The truth is, no one is really pay attention to what the other person is doing unless they are screwing it up.
Case in point: I thank my wife for making me dinner, even if she burns and botches it, My thanking her is not a testament to her skill as a cook, but my parents skill to raise their son with proper social skills.
Just something for you think about.
As for thanking people, I generally thank any group that manages to be less than completely aggravating. You thanking my cleric for healing you? Ya, that would probably coincide with me resisting the urge to tell you how to play. The proportion of babysitting activities to this-guy-rolled-a-one-and-really-needs-help situations is so large that gratitude is more likely to come off as self-centered drivel. No, giving me mnemonic pots doesn't make anything better. I'd much rather you take care of yourself, for the most part, so that I have better choices for how to complete the current gaming mission.
Babysitting 5 or 11 other people leaves remarkably little time to actually play your own character...
i wil say "good job"or something simular when we did well as a party
I will help replenish mana pots on raid runs.
I will help replenish scrolls if needed
i will not thank divine casters whille sitting on my knees for their pressence, we all have a job in the party, we're all links in the chain.
I will thank everybody who did a good job.
I do see less and less "healer types" in pugs, more and more i see these:
fvs's firering magic missile's non stop in epic content, not firering of 1 heal, dieing 43 times in eh content, finishing quest with 80% of his spell points, doesn't responce to party chat, general chat, Tell's nor voice chat. Takes him 4X the time to take down 1 mob then a melee
Fvs, using pinion, again, no party heals, no responce to chat, no dps, does seem to self heal only, finishes out with 80% of sp.
Both are black listed by all major guilds on the server.
Most people keep their healer of the who list, only getting them out forguild/channel runs to avoid pug drama's (at least on my server)
I thank good healers all the time. And if need be gives the pots if they had to spend some. This whole 'some don't heal' and 'I don't heal because it's a thankless world' are so pedestrian.
I run a Cleric that was built as an EE quest/ raid healbot.
I also run a capped TWF Juggy
So I have seen both sides of the coin.
On my Cleric I dont expect thanks unless I do an outstanding job above and beyond etc.
I only thank the other party members if they do an outstanding job or they save my Clerics bacon.
On my melee I will thank in advance for any healing I may recieve and the same for buffs.
I dont expect any thanks.
Whatever alt I sm on I will compliment what I see to be good play.
When Im on my Cleric I will make "suggestions" to the group on what I percieve will help me to help the quest - some might call it being bossy but those who know me know that Im not.
Like all healing types, I love praise when it is deserved.
Finally, Ive never been kicked, squelched, blacklisted or shouted at because I healed too much.
The Spellswords - Ghallanda
Seems like I'm a minority, but I enjoy healing (when I play my cleric that is). I like having 5 other members doing their best knowing I will be behind them ready to heal. I like making the party feel comfortable and secured.
What I don't like is all those "self-healing" types. I try to avoid LFMs that have ranger/monk, paladin/monk, fvs/monk, anything/monk. It is a dead giveaway that they are going to be "self-sufficient" zergers. While they may or may not complete the quest in less time than usual and be more easy to heal, but I play for the challenge. (Not if the party is playing stupid. Of course I have limits; I won't push myself to heal)
And of course I adapt to the party needs. If they need DPS, I'll throw blade barrier and run mobs through. If they need buffs, I'll buff. If they need heals, I'll heal. If they need nothing, I'll pike and then leave the party. If each character is self-sufficient and they have DPS/heals/buffs, I won't try to add to that. I'm not going to adjust my character to be able to compete with I-can-do-it-all characters.
But as you seem blinkered, I'll just point out. A lot of roles are gender associated like it or not. Its not being sexist its just a fact. (FBI profiles most serial killers to most likely be middle aged white men, so i suppose you'll say they're being sexist and racist) Oh and by the way you conveniently over looked the "service men and women" when most are men.
So, be sure to let me know how the operation to remove your head from your ... goes won't ya.
I say thanks when they do good a job and when they don't i try to say nothing. It's the internet ignorant ***** grow on trees. Get over it.
If real life had a block function i would probably go out more.
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