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    ugh seriously? not only did i lose 2 keys because of being kicked out by the door but we fail the dragon fight because of lag. thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkonas View Post
    ugh seriously? not only did i lose 2 keys because of being kicked out by the door but we fail the dragon fight because of lag. thanks.
    I understand that lag happens but it isn't necessarily the fault of Turbine (sometimes it is). I did a dragon raid and there was no lag. If lag was Turbine's fault, everyone would have it. I think that sometimes lag is caused by certain people in an instance who either have bad equipment / connection (the game tries to sync people in a party, maybe in an instance) or by people casting a lot of resource-heavy spells (dancing ball, glitter, hypno, ice storm).

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL View Post
    I understand that lag happens but it isn't necessarily the fault of Turbine (sometimes it is). I did a dragon raid and there was no lag. If lag was Turbine's fault, everyone would have it. I think that sometimes lag is caused by certain people in an instance who either have bad equipment / connection (the game tries to sync people in a party, maybe in an instance) or by people casting a lot of resource-heavy spells (dancing ball, glitter, hypno, ice storm).
    yeah im sure there was a lot of aoe going on but they have known the spectral dragon fights have had huge lag issues. im just shocked they haven't been able to work out something.

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    the fail is his response. the lag was to everyone not just me in the instance. no one could move. we were all communicating with each other. See this is a wannabe youtube area either so probably not going to happen. They did get rid of negative rep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkonas View Post
    the fail is his response. the lag was to everyone not just me in the instance. no one could move. we were all communicating with each other. See this is a wannabe youtube area either so probably not going to happen. They did get rid of negative rep.
    Your failing is understanding how the internet works, you party or instance is linked together if one person has a lag issue it affects the whole group the reason I rarely experience it is I play with a static group who all have good equipment and amazing net speeds except for one friend which is why he tends to play from his neighbors connection (with permission) because if he plays from home we all start getting lag.

    If the lag was turbines fault (it is occasionally) than every single player would experience it simultaneously but since your instance was affected and others were not than it was a problem with someones connection in that instance.

    I suggested you check with your ISP in case it is you because if it is than your being unfair to your party members by bringing that latency into the group.

    Now please do us a favor and stop complaining about stuff that isn't Turbine's fault so they stop wasting their time chasing ghosts and fix some of the real issues around here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failedlegend View Post
    Your failing is understanding how the internet works, you party or instance is linked together if one person has a lag issue it affects the whole group the reason I rarely experience it is I play with a static group who all have good equipment and amazing net speeds except for one friend which is why he tends to play from his neighbors connection (with permission) because if he plays from home we all start getting lag.

    If the lag was turbines fault (it is occasionally) than every single player would experience it simultaneously but since your instance was affected and others were not than it was a problem with someones connection in that instance.

    I suggested you check with your ISP in case it is you because if it is than your being unfair to your party members by bringing that latency into the group.
    Huh?

    The reason I never experience lag is because I play on high end equipment. Whatever happens to other party members has no discernible impact on me. Well, until Turbine does an update and hoses something up again.

    Mabar instances for 26-30 graveyard and dragon were the equivalent of a cluster****. I'm not going to bother farming turn-ins, and neither will most of the server, if it stays how it was last night.

    IIRC they had the exact same problem with Mabar last year, and took it down for "maintenance" for that exact reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkonas View Post
    the fail is his response. the lag was to everyone not just me in the instance. no one could move. we were all communicating with each other. See this is a wannabe youtube area either so probably not going to happen. They did get rid of negative rep.
    That is server side "lag".

    This will happen a lot with Mabar - more when you get a high volume spawn and many characters using abilities/spells.

    When this happen and you hover over your Net Icon, you will see a large amount of data to be received.

    While some option settings can help some there is not much one can do about it. There is more then usual amount of data to be sent, both up and down, when one of these large spawns happen. Consider all those MOBs coming 'alive' at once, all that AI becoming 'aware' at once, all those players casting at once, all those abilities used at once...

    This is the downside to Mabar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    That is server side "lag".

    This will happen a lot with Mabar - more when you get a high volume spawn and many characters using abilities/spells.

    When this happen and you hover over your Net Icon, you will see a large amount of data to be received.

    While some option settings can help some there is not much one can do about it. There is more then usual amount of data to be sent, both up and down, when one of these large spawns happen. Consider all those MOBs coming 'alive' at once, all that AI becoming 'aware' at once, all those players casting at once, all those abilities used at once...

    This is the downside to Mabar.
    Even better, now that liches spawn in large numbers, it's adding more casters in an instant and the spells really start flying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failedlegend View Post
    Your failing is understanding how the internet works, you party or instance is linked together if one person has a lag issue it affects the whole group the reason I rarely experience it is I play with a static group who all have good equipment and amazing net speeds except for one friend which is why he tends to play from his neighbors connection (with permission) because if he plays from home we all start getting lag.

    If the lag was turbines fault (it is occasionally) than every single player would experience it simultaneously but since your instance was affected and others were not than it was a problem with someones connection in that instance.

    I suggested you check with your ISP in case it is you because if it is than your being unfair to your party members by bringing that latency into the group.

    Now please do us a favor and stop complaining about stuff that isn't Turbine's fault so they stop wasting their time chasing ghosts and fix some of the real issues around here
    you are the one who doesn't understand how internet works, in ddo if somebody is being disconnected it affects all the party( you get hit but no damage, then when that person dc's all damage is applied at the same time ), that has nothing to do with internet, has to do with poor engineering/coding serverside

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL View Post
    I understand that lag happens but it isn't necessarily the fault of Turbine (sometimes it is). I did a dragon raid and there was no lag. If lag was Turbine's fault, everyone would have it. I think that sometimes lag is caused by certain people in an instance who either have bad equipment / connection (the game tries to sync people in a party, maybe in an instance) or by people casting a lot of resource-heavy spells (dancing ball, glitter, hypno, ice storm).
    Fanboi alert. It is the fault of Turbine if the game does a **** job of syncing people in parties or if you cast spells and the game can't handle it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failedlegend View Post
    Your failing is understanding how the internet works, you party or instance is linked together if one person has a lag issue it affects the whole group the reason I rarely experience it is I play with a static group who all have good equipment and amazing net speeds except for one friend which is why he tends to play from his neighbors connection (with permission) because if he plays from home we all start getting lag.

    If the lag was turbines fault (it is occasionally) than every single player would experience it simultaneously but since your instance was affected and others were not than it was a problem with someones connection in that instance.

    I suggested you check with your ISP in case it is you because if it is than your being unfair to your party members by bringing that latency into the group.

    Now please do us a favor and stop complaining about stuff that isn't Turbine's fault so they stop wasting their time chasing ghosts and fix some of the real issues around here
    I'm not sure where to start with your statement and the irony of you telling someone they fail to understand how the internet works.

    Do all of these Turbine sycophants not play any other MMOs ever? You'd think they get this same lag in other games so they are going to defend Turbine to the bitter end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL View Post
    I understand that lag happens but it isn't necessarily the fault of Turbine (sometimes it is). I did a dragon raid and there was no lag. If lag was Turbine's fault, everyone would have it. I think that sometimes lag is caused by certain people in an instance who either have bad equipment / connection (the game tries to sync people in a party, maybe in an instance) or by people casting a lot of resource-heavy spells (dancing ball, glitter, hypno, ice storm).
    It is Turbine's fault because everyone in the raid experienced the lag. The big killer lag either happens or it doesn't. I've been on both sides of the coin. I did 3 runs relatively lag free (as in experiencing "normal" lag where you rubberband and freeze secs at a time) and a couple total lagfest failure runs where everyone is frozen in place and cant move for like 5 mins. Then after like 5 mins of lag you see npcs moving around chomping your hp to nothing and seeing the message that your key has been returned to you as if the quest is over wile you're still frozen . Then another 5 mins of waiting around in the quest as a corpse and finally getring ported out of the instance WITHOUT your key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failedlegend View Post
    Your failing is understanding how the internet works, you party or instance is linked together if one person has a lag issue it affects the whole group the reason I rarely experience it is I play with a static group who all have good equipment and amazing net speeds except for one friend which is why he tends to play from his neighbors connection (with permission) because if he plays from home we all start getting lag.
    You're the one who doesn't understand how the internet works. If 1 person lagging can cause an entire raid to lag, then Turbine should not be in the software business.

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    Im running through Korthos right now, and the public area has slowed to a complete halt. I feel a lot stronger about shutting the festival off if only temporarily if its having a detrimental effect on the rest of the game.

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