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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll View Post
    Yes . . . and 1 RANGER level was OP enough for a nerf.

    Yet more proof the devs don't actually play this game.
    I forgot echo's of power too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charononus View Post
    Honestly only if they don't own it, cleric is f2p so it makes a better example in some sense.
    oh right forgot it's not f2p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charononus View Post
    I forgot echo's of power too.
    you could get that with ranger 1 as well, AA tree

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaipan View Post
    Imo that should work like some other enhancement, simply 0/1 (2 ap) but it scales with fighter levels (starts at 10%, with fighter levels 4/7 becomes 20/30%, or something like that).

    The fact that a fighter splash is heavily frontloaded doesn't invalid the fact though that the 75 pos spow from rng 1 was redic. It simply means that should be nerfed as well.
    Well then they should give the other ranger trees some devotion options as well and it doesn't have to be a shallow splash but a gradual thing, this kind of sucks for rangers, be a deepwood sniper as a ranger or have suckful self healing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaipan View Post
    you could get that with ranger 1 as well, AA tree
    True but it's something that is auto granted from one level of cleric/fvs with no feat or ap expendature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaipan View Post
    why should anyone take 1 cleric over 1 fvs, same stuff you mentioned plus better saves?
    Not the same - you're just looking at one tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalHazard View Post
    Well then they should give the other ranger trees some devotion options as well and it doesn't have to be a shallow splash but a gradual thing, this kind of sucks for rangers, be a deepwood sniper as a ranger or have suckful self healing.
    This. There should be some in all the core abilities instead of just randomly thrown into dws tree only for some reason. Same for paladins. Its kinda dumb the only route to getting your spell power on a paladin is to go the shield route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McFlay View Post
    This. There should be some in all the core abilities instead of just randomly thrown into dws tree only for some reason. Same for paladins. Its kinda dumb the only route to getting your spell power on a paladin is to go the shield route.
    add on nature's warrior druids to that list too, animal druids get no spwr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charononus View Post
    add on nature's warrior druids to that list too, animal druids get no spwr.
    After today's update, there is a bunch of positive spell power on Nature Warrior tree. 10 per core, plus 30 on various enhancements around.
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    Put 10 per core in all Ranger trees and call it a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll View Post
    Put 10 per core in all Ranger trees and call it a day.
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    Unless when we do 10 per ranger core we can also put "suckit bards" in the flavor text. Have you looked at how much worthless dungstuff you have to take on Warchanter to boost your SP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nibel View Post
    After today's update, there is a bunch of positive spell power on Nature Warrior tree. 10 per core, plus 30 on various enhancements around.
    ah nice thank you, mondays are my busy day and I haven't been on a real computer yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoogroves View Post
    Unless when we do 10 per ranger core we can also put "suckit bards" in the flavor text.
    That is completely acceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll View Post
    That is completely acceptable.
    Excellent. Though, I doubt I'll get a +20 heart so I can turn my former-ranger, now-bard back into something that isn't afraid to drop the soap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoogroves View Post
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    Unless when we do 10 per ranger core we can also put "suckit bards" in the flavor text. Have you looked at how much worthless dungstuff you have to take on Warchanter to boost your SP?
    Do it for bards/rangers/ and paladins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalHazard View Post
    Do it for bards/rangers/ and paladins.
    Fine . . . though I'll lose the perk of laughing at bards and paladins (oh who am I kidding, paladins are still laughable) I'm okay with this.

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    Imma gonna post here to add to the stupidity. Only cuz nothing gets done and no one is doing their job. Except those that are. They are exempt

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    I like this thread. Popcorn, anyone?
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    The flip side to this is that some capstones make it a no-brainer to splash.
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    Release expansion
    Give everyone +20 hearts of wood
    Wait for the majority to LR
    Nerf 1 and 2 level splashes into the ground, 1 at a time in case people were still holding out on using the +20s
    ???
    Profit.

    /tinfoil hat

    Advocating repeated nerfs in the name of "balancing the game" then complaining about how DDO is moving away from D&D, is a direct contradiction in logic - D&D 3.5 (what DDO is based on) is not a balanced game. We can either have a balanced clone MMO with homogenized classes, or we can have a D&D game. We cant have both.

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