"So maybe it's about time we all get a reality check and realize that if you raid, run epics, and have capped toons and worry about ED's TR's and all that jazz, you are a small part of the population of this game, a very small part in fact." -- Ungood
Here's another question: Who resurrected this? Granted, it's not really a necro, but the thread had languished and I thought died. Seeing the new additions to the conversation, seems it should've been left buried...
About elitists hanging out with other alike... it just makes sense. Life is like that: sports, hobby, games, name it.
Sports: Obviously there are leagues to separate different skill levels so no one call anyone elitist right?
Hobby: Have you ever tried playing chess with someone that you can beat in 4 moves twice in a row? Not so much fun. There's ton of exemples.
Games: Especially strategy / shooters (leagues) have rankings so people can play with other of about the same level. This means they can keep progressing and have a challenge.
Now DDO is a COOP game but it's still the same. From the expectations to the game-talks you can have with like-minded/skilled players... it's just totally different. So much it almost makes no sense to mix them up unless everyone agrees knowing what's going on. It's not like if we never hear non-elitist players saying it sucked to play with the opposite because he did all the job or he called someone a noob. It's the same but the other way around. So what about you bad players just give it up, have fun with your kind... whatever, just stop thinking good (elitist) players are different in their thinking. They're just better players who like to rock in games. They do what's necessary in order to achieve a maximum efficiency. And since they do that, their view about the game isn't the same. That's it, nothing else.
We're not frigging aliens who are here to spit on others... but we enjoy like-minded people for all the same reasons anyone would in most occasions. Thinking above that is plainly stupid honestly.
Edit: As much as I don't understand why wouldn't someone want to get better at anything (or everything), as much some think that when it's a game, it's all about relaxing and putting no effort. None is right or wrong. And being good just takes no effort in the long run. It's what you do. It's how you roll heh.
Last edited by Azarddoze; 09-28-2013 at 02:00 AM.
Kal Vas Flam... Corp Por... Corp Por
...And then there was silence
Based on earlier comments from the producer, he seems to understand the #s with regards to raiding. I don't think releasing U19 without a raid was an accident - probably more of a trial balloon.
Raids are an important part of the game and necessary in my opinion. Turbine is trying to figure out the right balance. In the past raids have been the only way to get the best items in the game which alienates people like yourself that don't enjoy raiding because of the negative social aspects that are encountered from time to time. So perhaps there will be less disparity between raid items and other items in the future.
Let's see what Turbine comes up with in January. I am looking forward to it. I enjoy raiding, but like yourself I get frustrated with some of the poor behavior. For the most part I've been able to minimize the negative aspects by avoiding raids if I see people like that in the party. You will find less of the problem people on EN than EH so running solely on EN may be an option for you if you are willing to live with a longer period to get your gear. I ran a 50/50 mix of EH and EN and passed on EE raids completely for the reasons you described.
Overall I would say you should give raiding another try and stick to EN which weeds out many (but not all) of the difficult people. Also with more raiding experience you will realize many of the critical comments are flat-out foolish.
Last edited by slarden; 09-28-2013 at 07:58 AM.
CC Casting Druid: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...C-Summer-Build
Shiradi Wiz Plan for 1st Lifers: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...r-First-Lifers
U25 Patch 1 Dex Halfling Assassin Build: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...x-Assassin-1-0
Warlock DC Caster: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...ld-Blast-Build
Several characters on Sarlona all starting with "Rand" in the Guild "Guardians of House Cannith". My main four characters are Randowl (20 Warlock EA DPS Build), Randslar (Bard 14 / Fighter 4 / Rogue 2 Swashbuckler), Randek (Druid CC Caster 17/Fvs 3) and Randomall (Rogue 20 assassin).
by your answer to one of the posts tell me your on thelanis
there are a lot of great guilds on our server, get to know them ,most have mandates on how to treat non guildies
always look to see what guild the leader is in first then send him a tell asking if they would mind showing you the ropes in the raid
it would be a good idea at that time to mention your wife cause ....well most would act a little different knowing a lady is in the group ..........at least till we get to know her
I have never joined a pug without looking at the leaders guild
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