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    Default Automatic 20th completion list on your next raid completion

    By now, most folks have realized that raid (20th) completion lists are broken.

    The update may actually make matters worse by resetting or invalidating raid completions on some characters.

    A good faith way for Turbine to correct this would be to give ALL characters a 20th completion list on their next successful raid completion for each unique raid.
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    that seems like a great way to make sure the last vestiges of raiding in this game are pushed off the end of the plank...

    Can't think of a quicker way to put the final nail in raidings coffin then giving everyone their Cleanser, their Pinion, their Clestia, their Stormbreaker, their shot at an eSoS piece and base item. Lets take the last three or four raids that anyone ever LFM's for and give almost everyone who still runs them a good shot as getting that last thing they wanted...

    /not signed

    Fix the counters and have some intern go back through pre-break backups and batch find/replace new values with values from before they were broken, + current delta (i.e. difference between old value and current value added to final value so no one losses any newer runs from the last month). If this puts anyone past a 20th since they broke it, reset their current value to 19+ (or 39) an unturned in completion, so they can get the list they deserve. Harder work than just giving out 20th lists to everyone... but at least that wont put the cap to the back of the head of the dieing raid scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoBo2020 View Post
    By now, most folks have realized that raid (20th) completion lists are broken.

    The update may actually make matters worse by resetting or invalidating raid completions on some characters.

    A good faith way for Turbine to correct this would be to give ALL characters a 20th completion list on their next successful raid completion for each unique raid.
    This would be awsome! Then I wouldn't have to run shroud 17 more times to get that cleanser I need
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    Maybe make a new "bonus days" weekend event where all raid loot has a +25% chance of dropping. This wouldn't give everything away in a single run, but I'm positive that people would flock back to the raids for a weekend with a 45ish % chance of raid loot and a 25.01% chance of coms in CitW. As an added bonus for Turbine, I'm positive bypass timers would fly out of the store on that weekend.
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    Instead of splitting the counters into heroic/epic, they should have split them into total/epic, grant the usual special list on 20th total, and a little extra on 20th epic (once they figure out what that extra should be).

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    As long as they revert the counters to what it was before (and the GMs do fix people that miss the 20th), I don't see why give everyone this freebie...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronClan View Post
    that seems like a great way to make sure the last vestiges of raiding in this game are pushed off the end of the plank...

    Can't think of a quicker way to put the final nail in raidings coffin then giving everyone their Cleanser, their Pinion, their Clestia, their Stormbreaker, their shot at an eSoS piece and base item. Lets take the last three or four raids that anyone ever LFM's for and give almost everyone who still runs them a good shot as getting that last thing they wanted...

    /not signed

    Fix the counters and have some intern go back through pre-break backups and batch find/replace new values with values from before they were broken, + current delta (i.e. difference between old value and current value added to final value so no one losses any newer runs from the last month). If this puts anyone past a 20th since they broke it, reset their current value to 19+ (or 39) an unturned in completion, so they can get the list they deserve. Harder work than just giving out 20th lists to everyone... but at least that wont put the cap to the back of the head of the dieing raid scene.
    For someone that stated they do not run many raids, you sure are worried about Raiding.

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    I don't see how an automatic 20th list on next completion would break the game, but I would prefer they fix the issue so that my counters are right where they should be.
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    Just add the "heroic" and "epic" completions together for raids that dont have heroic versions. # that passed a multiple of 20 = raid loot as end reward. Yay +5 skill tomes of swim for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    For someone that stated they do not run many raids, you sure are worried about Raiding.
    For someone who likes to make assertions about other people you sure don't seem to have any idea what you're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chai View Post
    Just add the "heroic" and "epic" completions together for raids that dont have heroic versions. # that passed a multiple of 20 = raid loot as end reward. Yay +5 skill tomes of swim for all.
    From what I'm hearing you won't even get that. +3 to +4 upgrade tome of swim would be the best you can get. Running raids for tomes is effectively dead when you can just buy the equivalents off the AH for a couple hundred thousand plat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronClan View Post
    For someone who likes to make assertions about other people you sure don't seem to have any idea what you're talking about.
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    We weren't running raids much before, but now it's fallen off the bottom of the chart.

    You were saying?


    Quote Originally Posted by hsinclair
    I heard the devs hate all wizards, bards, clerics, fighters, and fuzzy bunnies and only want us to play halfling barbarian/paladin shuriken specialists!

    It's totally true, I have a reliable source. You better reroll now.
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    Suspend raid timers for a weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    You were saying?

    So, What's your point?

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