I wanted to join a group the other day and the leader asked me what my DCs were.
Well, I'm a L14 Wizard, so I looked at the banish icon on my hotbar and said "44 for banish"
To which the leader said "I've never heard of a DC for banish being under 52" and promptly rejected my join request.
Seriously, a L14 Wizard is supposed to have a banish DC over 52? I'm guessing 52 was lame by his standards.
I later ran with another wizard who's DCs were really high and asked how he got them.. turns out he achieved his by using several ED twists.
So the new norm for being allowed into groups is to use "features" and have several past lives?
On a somewhat related topic, it seems that every mob now has evasion, as well as really high saves. Oh, and for all of the "heroic levels are a joke" people, they aren't a joke if you're not a multi-TR, uber-geared, ED twister. Some are certainly harder than others, and I had to laugh when 4 twisties died in our group and the 2 non-twisties managed to complete.