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    I've just come back to the game after a hiatus. I've got a dual wielding battle-bard and he is enjoyable. I'll probably spend most of my time playing him.

    However, this PDK cha to-hit and damage thing is very intriguing. I am thinking that I might want to also build up a purple dragon knight enchanter build. I was thinking two-handed fighting, but I would still primarily focus on his spellcasting. In "boss" fights, he would work as a healer and some extra DPS and in trash, he would rock the house with crowd control.

    There are a few problems, though...

    PDK's first level is forced to be fighter, so you lose out on the capstone enhancement straight off and you get a bunch of negatives.

    Also, you get 3 feats at level one, but you can't use any of them on metamagic.

    So, what feats would you take at level 1? Well, one of them has to be a fighter bonus feat and I'm sure I'll want power attack, so that's an easy choice. I feel like the THF feats are a little underwhelming, but I guess I could do that or toughness or Magical Training?

    Anyways, the rest of the feats I've got a good idea what I want to pursue, but those two "extra" at first level are daunting!

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    Not saying it's ideal, but I would probably do PDK bard 18 / ftr 2. For melee, you want Power Atk/CL/GC/IC:Slash; the rest can go into metamagics to boost your healing and/or DCs. Plus Toughness or FoP as your 3rd lvl 1 feat, b/c I can't think of anything better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Not saying it's ideal, but I would probably do PDK bard 18 / ftr 2. For melee, you want Power Atk/CL/GC/IC:Slash; the rest can go into metamagics to boost your healing and/or DCs. Plus Toughness or FoP as your 3rd lvl 1 feat, b/c I can't think of anything better.
    I guess I missed the boat on Cleave and Great Cleave. Are they really that much of a DPS increase? Let's say on a single target? (I'm assuming with some skill, you could still use fascinate and hit only one thing with a cleave...)

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    Single target, no - multiple targets, yes. Naturally, you won't want to Cleave thru Fascinated mobs; but you won't be using Fascinate all the time, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Sheep2 View Post
    I guess I missed the boat on Cleave and Great Cleave. Are they really that much of a DPS increase? Let's say on a single target? (I'm assuming with some skill, you could still use fascinate and hit only one thing with a cleave...)
    They also qualify you for overwhelming critical, an epic feat (along with PA and IC).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoBoDaClown View Post
    They also qualify you for overwhelming critical, an epic feat (along with PA and IC).
    Unfortunately for this build, that requires 23+ strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Sheep2 View Post
    Unfortunately for this build, that requires 23+ strength.
    Sadly, yes.

    THF builds want PA/Cleave/Great Cleave and really want to aim for Overwhelming Crit - which begs STR.

    If you really want to go CHA based, maybe look at TWF. There's much less issue with stat-overlap.
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    I was looking at a similar concept but I went for the two weapon fighting line. Buy getting to a starting 13 str and 15 dex I could pick up PA, 2WF and Toughness. I am not totally happy about ignoring spell Pen but I really dont see a way to fit it in and I am sure there is a little more tweaking that could be done AP wise but the core is all there.

    This build really is a support character with some pretty serious facinates, near max inspire courage, charisma to attack and damage, crit happy short sword user, solid healing, good shout damage, scroll healing and extended buff bot.

    Thinking fatesinger is a very strong fit or twisting reign into Primal Avatar.

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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.19.02
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    Level 28 True Neutral Purple Dragon Knight Male
    (2 Fighter \ 18 Bard \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 380
    Spell Points: 770 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 12
    Reflex: 14
    Will: 11
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength             14                    16
    Dexterity            15                    17
    Constitution         14                    16
    Intelligence         10                    12
    Wisdom                8                    10
    Charisma             16                    27
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 28)
    Balance               2                    21
    Bluff                 3                    16
    Concentration         2                    36
    Diplomacy             3                    38
    Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                3                    16
    Heal                  1                    19
    Hide                  2                    11
    Intimidate            3                    16
    Jump                  6                    18
    Listen               -1                     8
    Move Silently         2                    11
    Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
    Perform               n/a                  41
    Repair                0                     9
    Search                0                     9
    Spellcraft            0                     9
    Spot                 -1                     8
    Swim                  n/a                  n/a
    Tumble                n/a                  12
    Use Magic Device      3                    39
    
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Enchantment
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Human Versatility: Spell Power Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Cormyrean Knight Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spellsinger (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Magical Studies (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Magical Studies (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Magical Studies (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Skaldic Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Fighting Spirit (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Song of Heroism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Enchant Weapon (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Gathering Cold (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Gathering Cold (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Gathering Cold (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Frozen Fury (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Frozen Fury (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Frozen Fury (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 3)
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Light Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Light Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Music of the Sewers (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Music of the Dead (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Music of the Makers (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Virtuoso (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Wand Heightening (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Wand Heightening (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Wand Heightening (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Yellow Marigold Crown (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Enthrallment (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spell Song Trance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Sustaining Song (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Song of Arcane Might (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Song of Capering (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Prodigy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Prodigy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Prodigy (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spell Song Vigor (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Frolic (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Fighting Spirit (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Victory Song (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Obstinance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - High Spirits (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - High Spirits (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - High Spirits (Rank 3)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Inspire Excellence
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Spell Focus: Enchantment
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Ruin
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Lasting Inspiration


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    Yeah, I've tabled this guy for now. I am just not sure how to build him. Your build looks a bit stronger on the DPS than I was planning to make mine, but dual wielding to get extra shattermantle or will save reduction does seem like the way to go.

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    In U20 you will be able to LR+1 into pure bard if that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laeelin View Post
    In U20 you will be able to LR+1 into pure bard if that helps.
    WOAH, really?!?!? This is awesome! Any news about TR-ing? The extra 2 build points would be very useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laeelin View Post
    In U20 you will be able to LR+1 into pure bard if that helps.
    I fail to see why they can't just remove the forced Lvl 1 instead of forcing us to spend money to remove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failedlegend View Post
    I fail to see why they can't just remove the forced Lvl 1 instead of forcing us to spend money to remove it.
    <insert "P2W is ruining DDO!!1!" rant here>


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    Like it.
    I actually am assasin now and want to to be bard at core next life. I didn't find my flavor yet but this seems to be much in the direction I want to go. (although I didn't read a lot of positive things of Warchanter till now, and not truly convinced by it myself)

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Sheep2 View Post
    WOAH, really?!?!? This is awesome! Any news about TR-ing? The extra 2 build points would be very useful.
    You will be able to TR as well.

    Standard: TR anytime between 20 and cap
    Iconic: Only able to TR at cap

    You will also be able to TR into an iconic.

    I fail to see why they can't just remove the forced Lvl 1 instead of forcing us to spend money to remove it.
    I agree completely.
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    My build as a THF bard starting PDK.
    Any suggestions are welcome.

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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.19.03
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    Silken aicira
    Level 28 True Neutral Purple Dragon Knight Female
    (1 Fighter \ 19 Bard \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 338
    Spell Points: 813 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 11
    Reflex: 17
    Will: 20
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 28)           (Level 28)
    Strength             14                 18                   18
    Dexterity            15                 21                   22
    Constitution         12                 16                   16
    Intelligence         12                 16                   16
    Wisdom                8                 12                   12
    Charisma             16                 26                   29
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
    +4 Tome of Strength used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15
    +5 Tome of Charisma used at level 22
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 28)          (Level 28)
    Balance               3                 29                   37
    Bluff                 3                  9                   17
    Concentration         1                 26                   36
    Diplomacy             3                  9                   17
    Disable Device        n/a               n/a                  n/a
    Haggle                3                 26                   34
    Heal                 -1                  1                    9
    Hide                  2                 10                   18
    Intimidate            4                 10                   18
    Jump                  6                 25                   33
    Listen               -1                  8                   16
    Move Silently         2                  9                   17
    Open Lock             n/a               n/a                  n/a
    Perform               n/a               32                   42
    Repair                1                  3                   11
    Search                1                  3                   11
    Spellcraft            2                 26                   34
    Spot                 -1                  1                    9
    Swim                  3                  5                   13
    Tumble                3                 18                   26
    Use Magic Device      5                 32                   40
    
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Dodge
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Force of Personality
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Human Versatility: Spell Power Boost (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    Spell (1): Focusing Chant
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Cormyrean Knight Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spellsinger (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    Spell (1): Detect Secret Doors
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    Spell (1): Sonic Blast
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Human Adaptability: Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Reed in the Wind (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Haunting Melody (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 3)
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
    Spell (2): Blur
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Action Surge: Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Music of the Sewers (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Flicker (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
    Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
    Spell (2): Soundburst
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Music of the Dead (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Musical Studies (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Violet Marigold Crown (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Skaldic Rage (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Spell (3): Haste
    Spell (3): Crushing Despair
    Spell (2): Suggestion
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration
    Spell (3): Good Hope
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Human Versatility: Defense Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Action Surge: Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Great Weapon Aptitude (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Spell (3): Displacement
    Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
    Spell (4): Otto's Sphere of Dancing
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Haunting Melody (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Haunting Melody (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Inspired Flicker (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Enthrallment (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spell Song Trance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spell Penetration (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Spell (4): Dimension Door
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Sustaining Song (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Music of the Makers (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spell Penetration (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Song of Arcane Might (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    Spell (4): Shout
    Spell (5): Summon Monster V
    Spell (5): Greater Heroism
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spell Penetration (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Prodigy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spell Song Vigor (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    Spell (5): Mass Suggestion
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    Spell (1): Feather Fall
    Spell (5): Mind Fog
    Spell (6): Greater Shout
    Spell (6): Otto's Irresistible Dance
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Human Adaptability: Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Action Surge: Charisma (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Musical Studies (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Reviving Verse (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Raucous Refrain (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Arcane Aid (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Advanced Musical Studies (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Prodigy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Prodigy (Rank 3)
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Spell (2): Invisibility
    Spell (6): Summon Monster VI
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Exotic Weapon Mastery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Enchant Weapon (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    Spell (3): Deep Slumber
    Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Virtuoso (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Fighting Spirit (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Inspired Bravery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
    Spell (6): Mass Charm Monster
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Song of Heroism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Gathering Cold (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Inspire Excellence
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
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    Once LR becomes a real option, a pure PDK bard could work w/o the fighter dip. That could be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failedlegend View Post
    I fail to see why they can't just remove the forced Lvl 1 instead of forcing us to spend money to remove it.
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    <insert "P2W is ruining DDO!!1!" rant here>

    Naaa, that rant already happened, when I claimed support for it would only result in designing their game around it, and here in a literal fashion they are doing just that.

    PDK will be the perfect race for Ek sorcs as well.
    Last edited by Chai; 10-29-2013 at 01:57 PM.
    Advocating repeated nerfs in the name of "balancing the game" then complaining about how DDO is moving away from D&D, is a direct contradiction in logic - D&D 3.5 (what DDO is based on) is not a balanced game. We can either have a balanced clone MMO with homogenized classes, or we can have a D&D game. We cant have both.

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    I still like Bladeforged - the one things Sorcs need are spell slots, and an EK Bladeforged not only gets some handy SLAs, that combo nets TWO in the high-constrained level 6 spells (recon + Tensers).

    12/6/2 or 16/2/2 would be my thought - STR based, likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chai View Post
    PDK will be the perfect race for Ek sorcs as well.
    One more - an EK + WP is also a possibility (Ameliorating Strike), though unsure what I'd do w/ the other class (Paladin, I suppose)
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