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    Community Member Kujikid's Avatar
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    Cool The Spellsword(Now More Artie than EVER!)

    I've always loved the idea of sword in one hand and spell in the other.
    With the new enhancement pass I decided to try it.
    The idea is to use a bastard sword and rune arm while being able to be proficient in spells.
    Honestly, this is more of a solo flavor build, and I would love to have input on it to make it viable for endgame.

    This is a Melee(ONLY) and spellcasting build for those people who want it If you want an Xbow you can find your build somewhere else.
    This build focuses on using insightful damage to keep melee damage high without losing so much on spellcasting and using rune arms to
    augment bastard swords. It is currently a WF build but can easily be changed to Dwarf, Human, or Drow(Best Candidates) by changing your
    Body Feat to Construct Essence and weapon proficiency if necessary.

    This build is now a pure Articifer. It's not hurting for feats at all so the two monk levels weren't really necessary.
    I'm now also adding an Epic Destiny to the list in the form of Shadowdancer to make up for the loss of monk evasion.

    the only tome necessary will sadly have to be a +6 str tome for overwhelming critical

    32 Point Build

    Str 17
    Dex 8
    Con 16
    Int 17
    Wis 6
    Chr 6

    36 Point Build
    Str 17
    Dex 8
    Con 16
    Int 18
    Wis 6
    Chr 7




    Feats(Ignore Feat Selection Below)
    1 Power Attack
    3 Cleave
    4 (Arti)Proficiency: Bastard Sword/Body Feat of your choice
    6 Great Cleave
    8 (Arti)Proficiency: Bastard Sword/Body Feat of your choice
    9 Two Handed Fighting
    12 IC: Slashing Weapons(Insightful Reflexes if using keen weapons)/(Arti)Maximize Spell
    15 Improved Two Handed Fighting
    16 (Arti)Empower Spell
    18 Greater Two Handed Fighting
    20 (Arti)Quicken Spell
    21 Insightful Reflexes(if not taken at 12, otherwise free feat slot)
    24 Overwhelming Critical(Requires +6 Str Tome)
    27 Blinding Speed(unless someone sways me otherwise)

    The body feat choice depends on whether you want no fail arcane scrolls with on inscribed body wf enh or more prr and 20-25% arcane scroll failure. Ill personally go with admantine since i only really scroll divine spells.

    Sorry for the sloppy OP it's all I can do for now. Would love some help on the ED and twist choices for this

    Skill Points
    Max all articifer class skills with leftover points dumped into balance
    (wouldn't want to fall in our own grease puddles while trolling would we?)

    Oh and this is my first build so help would be great!

    edit: I'm using an outdated build creator so the balance was what i put the leftover skill points in. they should probably go to spellcraft/open lock
    Last edited by Kujikid; 09-18-2013 at 11:31 AM. Reason: Build Update

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    Now I have been away for awhile so this is just info I have gathered over the past few days. So it might be a bit off? But atm aren't the THF feats largely considered to be junk? At least from what I can find it seams weaving cleave/greatcleave into your attacks gets you a lot more umph with fewer feats used.

    I am working on a similar idea (at work atm so don;t have the time for the full build.) but going 2 lvls fighter rather then monk. This gains the kensai tree that should help keep my to-hit up even though I will be going max int (I hope to hit well enough to be able to use insightful damage rather then strikes.) and gain heavy armor for more AC/DR.

    Now I will be missing evasion and that does concern me a bit. Though Arty does have spells to protect for pretty much any kind of damage. Still am considering 16/2/2.

    -edit- I am also thinking dumping power attack might be a good idea. Since bastard swords get 1for1 and not 2for1. I personally think not taking the attack lose in favor of being able to run insightful strikes might be a better option. Unless of course it is possible to have a good hit rate with both power attack and insightful damage. Seems unlikely to me but I haven't crunched numbers on it.
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    Hmmm i might try dropping the thf feats in favor of more fun things :P also considering human with construct essence and house cannith mark for tasty sla's with maximize

    Also dont forget each monk level is considered a full bab point for attack purposes even if they arent for level

    And i also dont see what kensei brings since ive always used it for 3 ap haste and battle engineer offers 2ap haste once you get down the tree

    Oh and id love some ideas for 2hf line replacements
    Last edited by Kujikid; 09-17-2013 at 08:28 AM.

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    I'm sure you already know but the rune arm will cause you to be uncentered
    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan
    There is little value in getting into an edition debate; as with anything, we create what we believe works best for DDO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujikid View Post
    Also dont forget each monk level is considered a full bab point for attack purposes even if they arent for level
    Only if you're centered, which you won't be w/RA+Mithril Body.

    You might as well dump DEX for more CON; you're obviously not an AC build, you're not going for Dodge, and Mithril Body caps your MDB anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Only if you're centered, which you won't be w/RA+Mithril Body.

    You might as well dump DEX for more CON; you're obviously not an AC build, you're not going for Dodge, and Mithril Body caps your MDB anyway.
    yah.... i realized that this morning. I changed the base stats to 14 8 18 18 6 8
    taking out improved and greater two handed fighting for empower*** and a free feat of choice.

    honestly, I'm still kinda new to the game >.< still learning and all that

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    The Mad Multiclasser Failedlegend's Avatar
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    ugggghh I hate that we cant have custom avvy's and sigs I keep thinking Kujikid is Phidius since I've mentally connected that avvy to him.

    Sorry for the random off-topic complaining :P
    Last edited by Failedlegend; 09-17-2013 at 11:20 AM.
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