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    Been looking around all week for information about these other games. Im in love with ddo cause you can be a big guy in giant armor casting spells, just that at higher levels, its hard to level with the minimum quests and to say to get stronger you need to TR to get stronger and have even more of a harder time trying to level just makes me mad, that and i need to buy quests and now expansions, sure you need money but come on, i play maybe 6 days a month and ill need to spend way over $100 to get the game unlocked. Ive played both tera and rift before, there good games just there not as addictive as ddo cause ur straight in dungeons, end reward list, chest, and all. Rift has the awesome 10 classes at once thing and tera has some awesome combat, but they dont have flaming great axes and have spells to make the enemy dance.

    How the endgame of these 3 games, DDO, Tera, and Rift? Ive never reached endgame, just can say ive played about half of each. Is ddo worth playing f2p cause ill feel super week at endgame with 28pt. and rift takes forever to level, while tera really has a couple classes and class specific weapons. What do you guys like out of the 3 and what would be the cheapest one to play. Cause i dont feel like making 2 characters on every server, max level them, buy some expansions, do it again on other characters then theres expansions to buy and more.

    ASSISTANCE PLEASE!

    I opend this thread as a chat, and advice. Choosing an MMO is hard, and i would like any help.

    Thank you.
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    -Make 1 mega server so at night its still very populated
    -MAKE ALL QUESTS FREE (On Original Game not Expansions so F2p can get to TR3 and be powerful)

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    Ive never played Tera or Rift, but I think you have a misconception about TR:

    When you're lvl 20+ it really doesn't matter if you started with a 28-, 32- or 36-build. Once you have +6-Stat-Items for all relevant stats (and you're likely to when you reach epic lvls) a few build points have little significance.

    More important is choosing feats and enhancements and getting gear that helps your playstyle.

    However, epic destinies REALLY make a big difference and they're not F2P. So past lvl 20 and without epic destinies you'll probably face a problem in epic dungeons.
    But the Motu-pack that comes with the destinies and druid class is certainly worth it, not just for the destinies. It's not that expensive.

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    I can highly recommend DDO's end game, especially if you purchase Menace of the Underdark. That whole story series was incredibly fun for me, and the entire experience around epic levels comes together extremely well: it's a lot like the earlier parts of the game, but the graphics are better, the options are more fluid, the balance is more dynamic, the effects are bigger and better, the wilderness areas go from good to amazing, you've got random encounters and more choices in using skills and stats to solve problems, the epic destinies are fun to explore and experiment with, and the quests themselves are evolved and entertaining.

    DDO has two main features that, for me, set it apart and above, and they're character customisation and the feeling of going on unique and three-dimensional adventures. DDO takes both of these elements to the next level in its endgame content. If you like the game at lower levels, I think you'll love it after 20.

    I wouldn't worry too much about power levels, either. It's fairly easy to adapt both your own strength and the game's difficulty to ensure you have a good time.

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    You don't really have to spend a ton of money on ddo. You get free points to spend in the store for earning favor in game. You might not be able to lock everything now but if you do get into tr'ing or leveling alts you can unlock quite a bit of content just for playing.

    If your really concerned about the money aspect, best thing you can do is wait for points to go on sale again, buy a 50 dollar point bundle or whatever, and horde your points until whatever adventure packs/classes/races you want to buy go on sale. Unless you want to do a ton of favor grinding to unlock everything, that's the route I'd recommend taking.

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    Actually, you might want to check out the other D&D MMO: Neverwinter.

    You say you play 6 days/month, so I think it would suit your casual style more. It's incredibly easy to level up (the game throws XP at you like there's no tomorrow) and all content is free. It's a fun, casual-oriented MMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstar1996 View Post
    Hello,

    Been looking around all week for information about these other games. Im in love with ddo cause you can be a big guy in giant armor casting spells, just that at higher levels, its hard to level with the minimum quests and to say to get stronger you need to TR to get stronger and have even more of a harder time trying to level just makes me mad, that and i need to buy quests and now expansions, sure you need money but come on, i play maybe 6 days a month and ill need to spend way over $100 to get the game unlocked. Ive played both tera and rift before, there good games just there not as addictive as ddo cause ur straight in dungeons, end reward list, chest, and all. Rift has the awesome 10 classes at once thing and tera has some awesome combat, but they dont have flaming great axes and have spells to make the enemy dance.

    How the endgame of these 3 games, DDO, Tera, and Rift? Ive never reached endgame, just can say ive played about half of each. Is ddo worth playing f2p cause ill feel super week at endgame with 28pt. and rift takes forever to level, while tera really has a couple classes and class specific weapons. What do you guys like out of the 3 and what would be the cheapest one to play. Cause i dont feel like making 2 characters on every server, max level them, buy some expansions, do it again on other characters then theres expansions to buy and more.

    ASSISTANCE PLEASE!

    I opend this thread as a chat, and advice. Choosing an MMO is hard, and i would like any help.

    Thank you.
    Have not tried Rift, but I can tell you with certainty....TERA's end game is terrible. They do have five new dungeons coming out, but no idea how those will end up. Other than that, Nexus everyday and PVP is really all there is.

    Best thing to do with DDO is just sink a little money in it up front (not 100 bucks.)

    Spend $30 on the new expansion, and when you add it to cart and go to check out, you ahve the option to add on the Menace of the Underdark for only 17 bucks. So you get both expansions for less than $50. That also gives you the quest packs for Inspired Quarter, Dreaming Dark, Attack on Stormreach and Phiarlin Carnival. You will also get 2k points with that, enough to buy Vale of Twilight and Gianthold. Play through awhile, just with the quests you now have access to, and you'll get enough points to buy the High Road of Shadows as well. All that for just under 50 bucks. This also gives you epic destinies and the druid class, as well as the Purple Dragon Knight Iconic Hero should you want to have a favor farmer (make him at level 15, go back and run all the f2p quests on elite and get tons of favor in very little time.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstar1996 View Post
    I opend this thread as a chat, and advice. Choosing an MMO is hard, and i would like any help.

    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorlong View Post
    Have not tried Rift, but I can tell you with certainty....TERA's end game is terrible. They do have five new dungeons coming out, but no idea how those will end up. Other than that, Nexus everyday and PVP is really all there is.

    Best thing to do with DDO is just sink a little money in it up front (not 100 bucks.)

    Spend $30 on the new expansion, and when you add it to cart and go to check out, you ahve the option to add on the Menace of the Underdark for only 17 bucks. So you get both expansions for less than $50. That also gives you the quest packs for Inspired Quarter, Dreaming Dark, Attack on Stormreach and Phiarlin Carnival. You will also get 2k points with that, enough to buy Vale of Twilight and Gianthold. Play through awhile, just with the quests you now have access to, and you'll get enough points to buy the High Road of Shadows as well. All that for just under 50 bucks. This also gives you epic destinies and the druid class, as well as the Purple Dragon Knight Iconic Hero should you want to have a favor farmer (make him at level 15, go back and run all the f2p quests on elite and get tons of favor in very little time.)
    So $47 gets me ALL THAT! Wow. And I never knew menace gave all that. This sounds like I'm staying with Ddo. Just gotta make the major decison... What class should I be with new trees. I'm thinking Pure WF melee cleric Radiant Servant dark for negative energy burst, Melee human Bard/Fighter/Cleric for buffs and all (and is it possible for ottos to work on melee bard 28pt melee), or basic repeater arti. Who hits hardest with weapon and spells? I'm still in awe that all that for $47...
    Turbine Please do the Following and alot of people would come back:
    -Make 1 mega server so at night its still very populated
    -MAKE ALL QUESTS FREE (On Original Game not Expansions so F2p can get to TR3 and be powerful)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstar1996 View Post
    So $47 gets me ALL THAT! Wow. And I never knew menace gave all that. This sounds like I'm staying with Ddo. Just gotta make the major decison... What class should I be with new trees. I'm thinking Pure WF melee cleric Radiant Servant dark for negative energy burst, Melee human Bard/Fighter/Cleric for buffs and all (and is it possible for ottos to work on melee bard 28pt melee), or basic repeater arti. Who hits hardest with weapon and spells? I'm still in awe that all that for $47...
    It actually comes with more than that...

    - Eveningstar Challenge Pack (levels 15-25)
    - One greater learning tome per server (Heroic XP boost, good to have)
    - Veteran Status 4 (start new toons out at level 4)
    - One lesser tome of Epic Learning per server (Epic xp boost)
    - One +1 skill tome (per character, every character you ever make on any server, ever)
    - One Character Slot

    So, all that I said earlier, the three packs from Menace of the Underdark, two extra quests that come with that, the two packs from Shadowfell, 5 wilderness areas, 26 quests total and a raid, and 2k turbine points to buy the most important packs you can get.....yeah, it's a pretty sweet deal.

    Toon wise, I'm going to be honest. Play around with a little of everything and find what works best for you. I have three mains that I love almost equally that have very different playstyles, and I'm starting to like my new Shadar Kai rogue assassin. I have a pure caster, a caster/archer, a pure barb and now a rogue. And there are so many more build types and...just...everything is so awesome lol.

    Have fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorlong View Post
    It actually comes with more than that...

    - Eveningstar Challenge Pack (levels 15-25)
    - One greater learning tome per server (Heroic XP boost, good to have)
    - Veteran Status 4 (start new toons out at level 4)
    - One lesser tome of Epic Learning per server (Epic xp boost)
    - One +1 skill tome (per character, every character you ever make on any server, ever)
    - One Character Slot

    So, all that I said earlier, the three packs from Menace of the Underdark, two extra quests that come with that, the two packs from Shadowfell, 5 wilderness areas, 26 quests total and a raid, and 2k turbine points to buy the most important packs you can get.....yeah, it's a pretty sweet deal.

    Toon wise, I'm going to be honest. Play around with a little of everything and find what works best for you. I have three mains that I love almost equally that have very different playstyles, and I'm starting to like my new Shadar Kai rogue assassin. I have a pure caster, a caster/archer, a pure barb and now a rogue. And there are so many more build types and...just...everything is so awesome lol.
    Have fun!
    How long does this deal last with the total for $47 and I already have Vet 1+2. Also out of Arti bard and cleric melee builds which would land more spells and have an easier time getting aromor?
    Turbine Please do the Following and alot of people would come back:
    -Make 1 mega server so at night its still very populated
    -MAKE ALL QUESTS FREE (On Original Game not Expansions so F2p can get to TR3 and be powerful)

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    DDO's endgame is tr for the past year. MOTU killed ddo's endgame and Shadowfell has killed it more. Once you have capped your xp out and your epic destiny xp out there is really nothing else to do at endgame other than tr or leave the game. The decisions over the past year have left ddo with one of the worst endgames in any mmo I've played, the only one that was worse was nwo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstar1996 View Post
    How long does this deal last with the total for $47 and I already have Vet 1+2. Also out of Arti bard and cleric melee builds which would land more spells and have an easier time getting aromor?
    Sorry I didn't see this before. I have no idea how long it will last, but it's been there since pre-order....I imagine it isn't going away anytime soon, but don't quote me. Out of those builds, my cleric is healing specced, and I haven't created a bard (yet) so I can't really help you there lol. May want to start a new thread for those!
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    If you want info on other games then the one forum your posting in, I dunno, maybe go visit those sites?!

    Radical idea, I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by griffin_230 View Post
    Actually, you might want to check out the other D&D MMO: Neverwinter.

    You say you play 6 days/month, so I think it would suit your casual style more. It's incredibly easy to level up (the game throws XP at you like there's no tomorrow) and all content is free. It's a fun, casual-oriented MMO.
    Logged in to state that Neverwinter shouldn't be classified as D&D.. yeah it has rogues and wizards and some of the stats, but that's literally about it. It's a Free2Play hackjob of a "MMO" that brings zero originality to the table. The player made dungeons are a slap in the face to well developed games. Hey we suck at developing, why not let the players do it instead? Suuuure..
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    Hello,

    In all honesty, I second most of what have been said here about Epic. As people (and you probably have noticed) have done the separation before, heroic and epic are two things. The way I see it, heroic levels (pre-20) are there just to get you to end game (don't get me wrong some of it is really fun), however, once you get to 20... the real fun begins.

    While in the end you don't get THAT many raids as F2P (or if you buy the expansions and go GH/Vale as people have stated), the MotUD quest line is just impressive... I can't stress how cool they are. I have played MANY MMOs and it is by far the best quest line I have seen in any MMO. I hate grinding and I only had MotUD, Phiarlan Carnival, GH and VoN for end game and I have to say I pretty much did 20-28 doing the 3 chains in MotUD 90% of the time and VoN 3 times. That is how good that expansion pack is.

    With Epic Destinies, as stated before, it is like rebuilding your character; I don't TR, I loath the very idea of it and see it as pointless and just a waste of time, effort, resources, etc... so I pretty much had my main as a 1st lifer Sorc and I must say with EDs, you can do whatever you want with your character (within reason of course) and it will be loads more fun. Here is a little sneak peak (or more like a guide) on them http://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Destinies

    If you go with the deals stated below and level up to 20 on the content you have as F2P and the deal, you should have round 3K points which is enough to get the 4 most popular packs out there (GH, VoN, Vale and sands) where 3 of which are epic as well.

    The only downside to this, however, is dead end. When you hit level 28 and have finished the storyline of the 2 expansion packs; it is a wasteland as mentioned. Nothing to do or any content to run save for some random fun if you are up to it; that is it. But there is nothing "endless" that you can run, except for maybe the challenges if you are after the items or the 5 star in all of them.

    Hope that helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstar1996 View Post
    Hello,

    Been looking around all week for information about these other games. Im in love with ddo cause you can be a big guy in giant armor casting spells, just that at higher levels, its hard to level with the minimum quests and to say to get stronger you need to TR to get stronger and have even more of a harder time trying to level just makes me mad, that and i need to buy quests and now expansions, sure you need money but come on, i play maybe 6 days a month and ill need to spend way over $100 to get the game unlocked. Ive played both tera and rift before, there good games just there not as addictive as ddo cause ur straight in dungeons, end reward list, chest, and all. Rift has the awesome 10 classes at once thing and tera has some awesome combat, but they dont have flaming great axes and have spells to make the enemy dance.

    How the endgame of these 3 games, DDO, Tera, and Rift? Ive never reached endgame, just can say ive played about half of each. Is ddo worth playing f2p cause ill feel super week at endgame with 28pt. and rift takes forever to level, while tera really has a couple classes and class specific weapons. What do you guys like out of the 3 and what would be the cheapest one to play. Cause i dont feel like making 2 characters on every server, max level them, buy some expansions, do it again on other characters then theres expansions to buy and more.

    ASSISTANCE PLEASE!

    I opend this thread as a chat, and advice. Choosing an MMO is hard, and i would like any help.

    Thank you.
    DDO is fun in many ways. its a different feel to it compared to other mmos. as long as they keep kicking out content fix bugs and listen to us its not a bad game. Rift just went 100% f2p. not one adventure area needs to be paid for. now one thing about rift is there is no voice commands. So you have to go to a third party site for that. As for leveling. its actually pretty fast if you do all of the quests or pvp etc. you get xp with pretty much everything you do even pvp. so for those pvp players you could level to 60 with pvp alone.

    the only thing you cant do freely is their Souls for Storm legion. Rift store is completely optional. nothing is needed from it. Tera i can't comment on since i have never played it. Both rift and ddo have major similarities. Rift i love because i die a lot in there. You can't just run around whoop every mob like it was nothing. They are quite strong and fun to play with. drag too many your dead. oh chug pots nope you can't. Sure if you have a great build you might not have that many issues. I just like playing for fun.

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