But I suppose I only look at it that way because I'm enjoying the journey as well and not focused on getting to the top as fast as possible either. I haven't ground a single point of destiny xp. Destiny xp has just been something that's been getting thrown my way while I've been enjoying the game.
The fact of the matter is that I don't TR unless I want to reroll a character I no longer play. But I do want something that resembles an end game. A reason to keep playing a character that is otherwise finished. Twists seem like they could do that, except that the mechanics involved actually make you step back from end game so one is forced to choose between playing that all but polished character or playing something less in order to polish it. Except neither choice makes much sense as the first means you really aren't accomplishing really accomplishing anything and the second means you are not playing the full character you have spent so much time working on and what you are doing is rather pointless as once you put everything together there's nothing left to accomplish with it.
It's my contention that it makes more sense to earn those fate points and gain that little extra on an all but polished character mostly to give players something somewhat meaningful to do with that character. I really don't understand why anyone would want to not play it at that point.
Answer me that. Why don't you want a reason to play with a finished ED?
Why is actually using what you just earned an easy button? By that logic we should all earn all our xp as level 1 rank 1 characters on Khorthos and just get everything at the end because to actually gain ranks and levels in the process is using an easy button.
I know that not being able to do this may feel unfair, after all you sacrificed quite a lot of effort to get the project done, but now you would have to start from scratch. But it just isnt good practice, im afraid.
Dystopia = utopia achieved
I find it rather hard to enjoy the journey when the only paths are taking me to places I have no real reason to want to go.
I have no problem with having to dabel in other destinies to actually earn anything one may want to twist in. But it seems ludicrous to not be able to actually use that ED you have already earned to grind out the fate point xp. The fate point mechanics in place actually seem like something the devs put in place just to see how stupid we are.
But I think you may be right in your previous post. If I don't like the way they develop this game I always have the option to play something else.
[QUOTE=Gremmlynn;5099618]I'm guessing from your position on this issue that anyone who enjoys the game differently than you is enjoying it wrong then. Because for me to collect destiny xp while just enjoying the game, which is my goal, would mean progressing linearly, not regressing and playing some watered down version of my characters for most of the process. Use level 1 to get level 2, use level 2 to get level 3...right on up to use my ED for the long slow process of gaining my fate points and twist in those things I took the time to earn.
Nope, from my position if someone enjoys different aspects of the game then I do, but we both enjoy the game, we are both winning. From my perspective...your also not enjoying the game very much. That's why I've suggested some alternatives for you that have worked for me to keep the game enjoyable. I'm not saying play like me or your wrong.
Or ask yourself...why are you even in such a rush to get to end game. Look at the current state of end game, it sucks. Browse the forums a bit and you'll notice all the end game sucks threads. Go ahead and rush to get there, your just going to go from complaining leveling destinies is boring and you hate tr'ing to there isn't anything to do. We also know the level cap getting bumped to 30 is going to be happening sometime in the not so distant future. Why such a rush getting to cap now and getting the best gear from the hardest content on the hardest difficulty settings when soon as level cap 30 hits most of its going to just end up being second rate anyhow?
No, that I agree with. What I disagree with is tying fate points to earning useless destinies. It seems a much better idea to count fate point xp seperatly and actually give players a reason to play their character in their chosen destiny. This in no way stops those of you who want to knock out every destiny at the same time from doing so in the same way that leveling a destiny doesn't prevent gaining character levels. I can fully see why someone who is interested in playing a broad range of lives would want to do so. Me, I just want something to do with this destiny I just finished and not being able to advance my character while doing so doesn't provide it.Because if you want the bonus from (insert random destiny here) you should have to play that destiny. Is that too complicated of a concept for you to grasp?
The reason I want to play that finished ED to get those "steroids" is because the game doesn't really offer any other reason to play that character at all at that point. EE's sure, but to what point as the character has already been taken as far as it can go? Fate points could add ~15 million xp worth of reason to play those EE's. Now they provide ~15 million xp worth of reasons not to and no real reason to more than once after you gain them. The whole system seems disjointed and working against itself.The thing is...there is only one reason not to play a finished ED. That is because you want a finished ED on steroids, which is what it becomes when you have full fate points/twists. At that point it then turns back into my previous answer for you. If you want the extra fate points and skills to twist from a specific destiny...you should have to actually play that destiny to unlock the bonuses it offers.
Dystopia = utopia achieved
In a hurry to get to end game? I've been playing the damn game for four years now, by my count I've been dragging my feet all the way but eventually that's where we end up. When the cap went to 25 I was sitting on 3 capped characters and they made up that in the ensuing year. As I have little interest in TRing just to kill time(I don't hate it, I just see little point in, basically, deleting toons that I still enjoy playing - likely for the same reasons I don't enjoy going backwards with ED's), my choices are hitting cap and not playing those characters at all pretty much. Which means the other 4 will just get there faster themselves. So what do you suggest, find something else to play in order to avoid hitting cap in this one because the devs can't seem to find anything for us to do there, even when we give them suggestions?Or ask yourself...why are you even in such a rush to get to end game. Look at the current state of end game, it sucks. Browse the forums a bit and you'll notice all the end game sucks threads. Go ahead and rush to get there, your just going to go from complaining leveling destinies is boring and you hate tr'ing to there isn't anything to do. We also know the level cap getting bumped to 30 is going to be happening sometime in the not so distant future. Why such a rush getting to cap now and getting the best gear from the hardest content on the hardest difficulty settings when soon as level cap 30 hits most of its going to just end up being second rate anyhow?
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