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    Max Spell Power: (18 sorc/2fvs WF)
    • 150 Equipment Bonus
    • 30 Implement Bonus
    • 25 Psionic Bonus (ear dweller)
    • 25 Alchemical Bonus (Potion of Superior Inferno)
    • 47 (63 AP spent on Fire/Air Savant)
    • 17 (17 AP spent in Angel of Vengence)
    • 50 (Fire Savant Innates)
    • 15 (Air Savant tier 5 "Power of Flame")
    • 25 (Conflagration)
    • 30 (scourge)
    • 30 action boost bonus
    • 50 Draconic Fury
    • 30 Red Dragon Heritage
    • 45 Sigil of battering Spellcraft (tier 4 twist)
    • 15 Fey Form (tier 2 twist)
    • 20 Epic Spell Power: Fire
    • 70 Spellcraft
    • 15 Artifact
    • 150 Maximize Spell
    • 75 Empower Spell

    TOTAL: 914+ fire spell power (more spellcraft= higher total)



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    • 75 Empower

    TOTAL: 914 fire spell power

    It would appear everything stacks.
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    Don't think you're missing anything - I know Savants can (theoretically) get stupid high Max Spell Power at a ridiculous cost of Spell Points and Feats while in Draconic Incarnation.

    But... can you confirm that everything stacks? I don't have a fire savant to play with right now because I'm happy with the high damage output and low spell point cost of a Shiradi Air Savant. I also don't have all of the items you have listed (eardweller, 144 SP Item, etc).

    Is this a confirmed in game number or just playing with numbers to try to figure out a theoretical high?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesnoman View Post
    But... can you confirm that everything stacks? I don't have a fire savant to play with right now because I'm happy with the high damage output and low spell point cost of a Shiradi Air Savant. I also don't have all of the items you have listed (eardweller, 144 SP Item, etc).

    Is this a confirmed in game number or just playing with numbers to try to figure out a theoretical high?
    I'm positive everything stacks. I was just seeing what the absolute max was. I have everything except Ear Dweller and 70 spellcraft (missing 13). I'll try and get the SS for you.
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    What's the breakdown on spell craft?

    23 ranks
    +8epic
    +20 spellsight item
    +4 gh
    +1 profane (motu hat)
    +3 skill focus
    +5 epic skill focus
    +6 exceptional skills
    +3 luck
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    73

    Lot of room to improve that still with stat modifier, completionist bard song etc.

    Id honestly be surprised if you couldn't break 100 spell craft in a max spell power build.

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    You can get a 150 stick, 144 isn't max.

    So, add 6 to that number
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    Innates are 6, so 60 Spell power.
    Potion from Jorasco are +25, not +20.
    Max Spell power is 150 not 144.

    +10, +5, +6 to your list so +21.

    Nice number. Close to impossible to get but still a nice number.
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    Changed up the Max spellpower. Max spell power is 18 sorc/2fvs. You can't count the 6th innate. If you do. You'd lose scourge and 4 more spell power for a total of 34 spell power(you'd gain 10 and lose 24). Added the extra bonuses. Max is 914 with 70 spellcraft. With proper gear and buffs you can get even higher depending on spellcraft total.


    Does the Human versatility +30 spell power boost stack with the FVS spell power boost? If so. Thats an extra +30 Spell Power.
    I think they get a skill focus too. So +3 spellcraft is a net gain of 1 spellpower (you lose 2.25 spellpower and gain 3)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogann View Post
    Changed up the Max spellpower. Max spell power is 18 sorc/2fvs. You can't count the 6th innate. If you do. You'd lose scourge and 4 more spell power for a total of 34 spell power(you'd gain 10 and lose 24). Added the extra bonuses. Max is 914 with 70 spellcraft. With proper gear and buffs you can get even higher depending on spellcraft total.


    Does the Human versatility +30 spell power boost stack with the FVS spell power boost? If so. Thats an extra +30 Spell Power.
    I think they get a skill focus too. So +3 spellcraft is a net gain of 1 spellpower (you lose 2.25 spellpower and gain 3)
    Oops forgot about the split.

    And no, I don't think Human and FVS SP boost stack. Not sure thou.
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    The number is nice and shiny, yet it's mostly useless. You can keep that extra boost active for, what, 15 seconds provided that you are stationary because of the sigil?

    Also, based on your screenshot I'd say you're about 10-15 DC below a standard DI Sorc which means you're getting a lot of reflex/evasion saves thus your damage is halved or completely ignored on EE content.

    So other then the screenshot with pretty temporary number how is that build supposed to preform in EE content?
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    Quote Originally Posted by darthhento View Post
    The number is nice and shiny, yet it's mostly useless. You can keep that extra boost active for, what, 15 seconds provided that you are stationary because of the sigil?

    Also, based on your screenshot I'd say you're about 10-15 DC below a standard DI Sorc which means you're getting a lot of reflex/evasion saves thus your damage is halved or completely ignored on EE content.

    So other then the screenshot with pretty temporary number how is that build supposed to preform in EE content?
    This is a thread about Max Spell power, not his build. It's just for shiny high numbers. I said it myself: nice number but close to impossible to get.
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    From a theoretical standpoint, 121 is the maximum spell craft I can come up with for this max spell power build without using store pots / abishai cookies.

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    Int (human)        
        18    base
        7    levels
        5    tome
    Build    30    
        1    human enh
        6    Epic destiny
        1    tier 1 twist
        2    completionist
        3    epic feats
    +ED / feat / enh    43    
        11    item
        3    insight
        1    exceptional
    +items    58    
        2    inspire exellence
        2    airship
    +buffs    62    
        2    yugo
        3    alchemical
        3    action boost
    +short term    70     
    
    
    
    spell craft        
    
        23    ranks
        8    epic
    Base    31    
        3    luck item
        6    exceptional skills
        20    spellsight
    +items    60    
        2    completionist
        3    skill focus feat
        5    epic skill focus
    +feats    70    
        4    greater heroism
        1    profane bonus
    +easy buffs    75    
        4    action boost
        3    alchemical skills
    +short term    82    
        2    inspire competance
        5    insight (monk void light void)
        2    monk (fire light fire)
    +from others    91    
        30    max int mod.
            
    Total Spell Craft        121
    Idol of goodfortune can be used for +3 luck as the eardweller clicky supersedes the planar conflux set.

    This would increase to 124 if abishai cookies and store pots are counted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogann View Post
    Does the Human versatility +30 spell power boost stack with the FVS spell power boost? If so. Thats an extra +30 Spell Power.
    I think they get a skill focus too. So +3 spellcraft is a net gain of 1 spellpower (you lose 2.25 spellpower and gain 3)
    Human and fvs spell power action boosts don't stack.
    Humans don't get skill focus for spell power or umd

    6ap in human tree can get you +6 spellcraft during skill focus action boosts though, net gain of 2spell power.

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