Results 1 to 16 of 16
  1. #1
    Hall of Famer
    2016 DDO Players Council
    Impaqt's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    20,210

    Default Ronin: Centered Khopesh build with Manyshot Burst DPS.

    Ronin

    2 changes in the enhancement system prompted me to come up with this build… Monks stances becoming feats and Kensai allowing that monk to be centered with non monk weapons.

    this combination could produce, what I would consider, a samurai warrior. Deadly hand to hand combat with the ability to range a target when needed.

    Of course, my Samurai would answer to no one. Combine that with my love of Robert De Niro Movies and Car chases, the name Ronin seems to apply.

    My prefered direction for this build will be hand to hand focus with a ranged fallback. WIth a couple minor changes, this build can follow a path closer to the Moncher and take advantage of both Manyshot and 10k Stars. I will go over my concept on that in the following post.

    Build will not include Epic Destinies. Fury of the wild or Grandmaster of Flowers both have significant synergy with the build though.


    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.16.01
    DDO Character Planner Home Page
    
    Level 25 Lawful Neutral Human Male
    (12 Fighter \ 4 Monk \ 4 Ranger \ 5 Epic) 
    
    Hit points, Saves, and Spell points.
    This is an advanced build where we will see large variances in these numbers depending on gear and destinies.  I dont feel its critical to detail these things out.
    
    
          Ability Scores      
    36 Point and Assuming all +3 Tomes  
    Strength             18  All Level ups here
    Dexterity            14  Ranger 2 grants TWF regardless of base score and +3 tomes gets us to GTWF
    Constitution         14   
    Intelligence         9 SInce I Had a +3 tome, will have a 12 at level 11 for skill points
    Wisdom               14  
    Charisma             9 again,+3 tome evens us out later in build 
    
     Skills
    
    Concentration is critical and should be maxed.  I always recommend UMD as well and this build has plenty of points to max that.  I was also able to throw a few points in Jump and Balance
    
    
    Level 1 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: XXX
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: XXX
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Point Blank Shot
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
    
    Level 2 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    
    Level 3 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    Level 5 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave
    
    Level 6 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Critical Take Toughness Here if you think its still worth it.
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery
    
    Level 7 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
    
    Level 8 (Fighter)
    
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Monk: Adept of Forms 
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    Level 10 (Fighter)
    
    Level 11 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    
    Level 12 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Monk: Master of Forms
    
    Level 13 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    Level 14 (Fighter)
    
    Level 15 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Selected) Manyshot
    
    Level 16 (Fighter)
    
    Level 17 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    Level 18 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Monk: Grandmaster of Forms
    
    Level 19 (Ranger)
    
    Level 20 (Monk)
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Overwhelming Critical
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    Level 26(Epic)
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons 
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Projected Enhancements
    Kensai 33 Points Tier 5’s
    Human 9-11 Points +1 Con, +1 Str Damage Boost and +3 Str on boost (Extra in Healing Amp)
    Tempest 25 Points ALl +hit/Damage +2 Str
    AA 11 Points Conjure Arrows, Force Imbue
    Last edited by Impaqt; 09-03-2013 at 12:35 PM.
    °º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸,ø¤°º¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸A R C H A N G E L S °º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸,ø¤°º¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
    Thelanis

    Alandael ~ Allendale ~ iForged ~ Roba ~ Sylon ~ Pokah ~ Keyanu ~ Wreckoning
    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    We don't envision starting players with Starter Gear and zero knowledge playing on Hard or Elite.
    Sev~

  2. #2
    Hall of Famer
    2016 DDO Players Council
    Impaqt's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    20,210

    Default

    Reserved for Variants.
    °º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸,ø¤°º¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸A R C H A N G E L S °º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸,ø¤°º¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
    Thelanis

    Alandael ~ Allendale ~ iForged ~ Roba ~ Sylon ~ Pokah ~ Keyanu ~ Wreckoning
    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    We don't envision starting players with Starter Gear and zero knowledge playing on Hard or Elite.
    Sev~

  3. #3
    Community Member Takllin's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    843

    Default

    I'm in the process of getting tokens to TR one of my mains into something just like this, but I am wondering why you took 4 Ranger/4 Monk instead of 6 Ranger/2 Monk? You would get Manyshot/ITWF which saves you two feats.

    Tokun PDK 12 Monk/4 Paladin/4 Fighter (3x Fighter, Monk, Paladin, Ranger, Rogue/2x Bard, Barbarian PL)
    Tekllin Human 20 Sorc (3x Sorc, Wiz PL)
    Jadokis Purple Dragon Knight 18 Barbarian/1 Favored Soul/1 Fighter (3x Bard, Fighter, Monk, Paladin, Rogue/2x Favored Soul/Heroic and Epic Completionist)
    Degenerate Matter

  4. #4
    Hall of Famer
    2016 DDO Players Council
    Impaqt's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    20,210

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Takllin View Post
    I'm in the process of getting tokens to TR one of my mains into something just like this, but I am wondering why you took 4 Ranger/4 Monk instead of 6 Ranger/2 Monk? You would get Manyshot/ITWF which saves you two feats.
    I went back and forth a bit on the split

    3 monk obviously gets us a Path which opens up a lot of special attacks. Since the focus of the build was to be centered, I felt having access to "fists" of light and buffs like grasp of the earth dragon was well worth it.


    at that point, 4/4 makes more sense than 5/3 as 5 ranger only gives us a second fav enemy, and 4 monk gets us +1 Saves.

    in the end, I'm not sure what I would even do with the 2 extra feats. the build isnt starved for feats at all.. I'm not even positive what I'll take at 27 right now.
    Last edited by Impaqt; 09-03-2013 at 12:04 PM.
    °º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸,ø¤°º¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸A R C H A N G E L S °º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸,ø¤°º¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
    Thelanis

    Alandael ~ Allendale ~ iForged ~ Roba ~ Sylon ~ Pokah ~ Keyanu ~ Wreckoning
    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    We don't envision starting players with Starter Gear and zero knowledge playing on Hard or Elite.
    Sev~

  5. #5
    Build Constructionist unbongwah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    13,948

    Default

    Did you take GWF and I missed it? Because that's necessary for the key T5 Kensei abilities, inc. One w/Blade.

  6. #6
    Hall of Famer
    2016 DDO Players Council
    Impaqt's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    20,210

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Did you take GWF and I missed it? Because that's necessary for the key T5 Kensei abilities, inc. One w/Blade.


    whoops... I thought it just needed Greater Specialization.. GWF is actually a tier 4 req now that I look again... SO stupid that Kensia has so many feat Reqs and no other lines do.

    Looks like I can swap Specialization at level 17 for Focus.

    And then we dont actually need Specialization anywhere I guess... Can pop that back in at 27
    Last edited by Impaqt; 09-03-2013 at 12:36 PM.
    °º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸,ø¤°º¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸A R C H A N G E L S °º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸,ø¤°º¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
    Thelanis

    Alandael ~ Allendale ~ iForged ~ Roba ~ Sylon ~ Pokah ~ Keyanu ~ Wreckoning
    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    We don't envision starting players with Starter Gear and zero knowledge playing on Hard or Elite.
    Sev~

  7. #7
    Community Member Takllin's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    843

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    I went back and forth a bit on the split

    3 monk obviously gets us a Path which opens up a lot of special attacks. Since the focus of the build was to be centered, I felt having access to "fists" of light and buffs like grasp of the earth dragon was well worth it.


    at that point, 4/4 makes more sense than 5/3 as 5 ranger only gives us a second fav enemy, and 4 monk gets us +1 Saves.

    in the end, I'm not sure what I would even do with the 2 extra feats. the build isnt starved for feats at all.. I'm not even positive what I'll take at 27 right now.
    Ah alright. I haven't even begun to plan my out yet, I just did the gear and level split that I want to go for. And you would lose the third core of Tempest, but not sure what that is.

    Tokun PDK 12 Monk/4 Paladin/4 Fighter (3x Fighter, Monk, Paladin, Ranger, Rogue/2x Bard, Barbarian PL)
    Tekllin Human 20 Sorc (3x Sorc, Wiz PL)
    Jadokis Purple Dragon Knight 18 Barbarian/1 Favored Soul/1 Fighter (3x Bard, Fighter, Monk, Paladin, Rogue/2x Favored Soul/Heroic and Epic Completionist)
    Degenerate Matter

  8. #8
    Hall of Famer
    2016 DDO Players Council
    Impaqt's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    20,210

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Takllin View Post
    Ah alright. I haven't even begun to plan my out yet, I just did the gear and level split that I want to go for. And you would lose the third core of Tempest, but not sure what that is.
    3rd core of tempest is dex modifier to damage with light weapons.. Useless on the build anyway.
    °º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸,ø¤°º¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸A R C H A N G E L S °º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸,ø¤°º¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
    Thelanis

    Alandael ~ Allendale ~ iForged ~ Roba ~ Sylon ~ Pokah ~ Keyanu ~ Wreckoning
    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    We don't envision starting players with Starter Gear and zero knowledge playing on Hard or Elite.
    Sev~

  9. #9
    Community Member Takllin's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    843

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    3rd core of tempest is dex modifier to damage with light weapons.. Useless on the build anyway.
    Ah yeah not missing anything then.

    Tokun PDK 12 Monk/4 Paladin/4 Fighter (3x Fighter, Monk, Paladin, Ranger, Rogue/2x Bard, Barbarian PL)
    Tekllin Human 20 Sorc (3x Sorc, Wiz PL)
    Jadokis Purple Dragon Knight 18 Barbarian/1 Favored Soul/1 Fighter (3x Bard, Fighter, Monk, Paladin, Rogue/2x Favored Soul/Heroic and Epic Completionist)
    Degenerate Matter

  10. #10
    Build Constructionist unbongwah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    13,948

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    And then we dont actually need Specialization anywhere I guess... Can pop that back in at 27
    AFAICT the only thing GWS is a pre-req for anymore is SWF, which is now useless. OTOH, GWS is still +2 dmg and you are presumably going for Power Surge, so why the heck not?

    Any chance you could spend some pts in DWS for, say, +3d6 SA and +75 pos Spellpower (Rejuv Cocoon FTW!)?

  11. #11
    Hall of Famer
    2016 DDO Players Council
    Impaqt's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    20,210

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    AFAICT the only thing GWS is a pre-req for anymore is SWF, which is now useless. OTOH, GWS is still +2 dmg and you are presumably going for Power Surge, so why the heck not?

    Any chance you could spend some pts in DWS for, say, +3d6 SA and +75 pos Spellpower (Rejuv Cocoon FTW!)?


    I would go that route in the Ranged focus variant I think. Action points are very thin on this build since it takes advantage of so much Kensai and Tempest.
    °º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸,ø¤°º¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸A R C H A N G E L S °º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸,ø¤°º¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
    Thelanis

    Alandael ~ Allendale ~ iForged ~ Roba ~ Sylon ~ Pokah ~ Keyanu ~ Wreckoning
    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    We don't envision starting players with Starter Gear and zero knowledge playing on Hard or Elite.
    Sev~

  12. #12
    Hero
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    not suffering fools gladly
    Posts
    3,577

    Default

    Have you completed any of the Shadowfell EE content yet with this build? It looks like you would get slaughtered without a dedicated healer. I see very mitigation: 14% damage reduction from Earth Stance + Tempest. While you can hit 19% Dodge with a 10% item, you could hit the Dodge cap by taking the Dodge feat and Improved Dodge within Kensei.

    IMO the benefits of Power Surge don't outweigh the benefits of Shadow Veil (6 Monk), especially when you aren't building for tactics.
    U19 Kensei: Centered Cleaver | TR Junkie Leveling Framework

    ~Ying~ (10 lives), ~Hamada~(9 lives), ~Vadanken~ (6 lives), ~Kobeyashi~ (10 lives)
    Over Raided of Orien, First Level 100 Guild

  13. #13
    Hall of Famer
    2016 DDO Players Council
    Impaqt's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    20,210

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Carpone View Post
    Have you completed any of the Shadowfell EE content yet with this build? It looks like you would get slaughtered without a dedicated healer. I see very mitigation: 14% damage reduction from Earth Stance + Tempest. While you can hit 19% Dodge with a 10% item, you could hit the Dodge cap by taking the Dodge feat and Improved Dodge within Kensei.

    IMO the benefits of Power Surge don't outweigh the benefits of Shadow Veil (6 Monk), especially when you aren't building for tactics.
    what if I'm not building for EE?


    I have not rolled the build yet, nor do I even own shadowfell currently.

    Contrary to popular belief on the forums here, Epic Elite questing is not the norm in this game. and while I do indeed play EE on occasion, I have more fun TRing and Running EH for the most part.
    °º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸,ø¤°º¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸A R C H A N G E L S °º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸,ø¤°º¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
    Thelanis

    Alandael ~ Allendale ~ iForged ~ Roba ~ Sylon ~ Pokah ~ Keyanu ~ Wreckoning
    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    We don't envision starting players with Starter Gear and zero knowledge playing on Hard or Elite.
    Sev~

  14. #14
    Build Constructionist unbongwah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    13,948

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    Contrary to popular belief on the forums here, Epic Elite questing is not the norm in this game. and while I do indeed play EE on occasion, I have more fun TRing and Running EH for the most part.
    Sssssshhhhh! I think they excommunicate you from the forums if you admit that publicly, comrade!

  15. #15
    Hero
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    not suffering fools gladly
    Posts
    3,577

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    what if I'm not building for EE?
    Then any build will do.
    U19 Kensei: Centered Cleaver | TR Junkie Leveling Framework

    ~Ying~ (10 lives), ~Hamada~(9 lives), ~Vadanken~ (6 lives), ~Kobeyashi~ (10 lives)
    Over Raided of Orien, First Level 100 Guild

  16. #16
    Hall of Famer
    2016 DDO Players Council
    Impaqt's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    20,210

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Carpone View Post
    Then any build will do.
    SO I cant post builds anymore because I'm not a "EE Powergamer" anymore? Or I just need to run the build past you first to make sure its EE viable?

    A lot of my fun comes from the the designing of builds/characters. SOrry if they all dont meet your approval.

    PS: My juggernaut doesnt have a Pinion or any EE gear on him either... and I still have fun! GASP!
    Last edited by Impaqt; 09-06-2013 at 03:44 PM.
    °º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸,ø¤°º¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸A R C H A N G E L S °º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸,ø¤°º¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
    Thelanis

    Alandael ~ Allendale ~ iForged ~ Roba ~ Sylon ~ Pokah ~ Keyanu ~ Wreckoning
    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    We don't envision starting players with Starter Gear and zero knowledge playing on Hard or Elite.
    Sev~

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

This form's session has expired. You need to reload the page.

Reload