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    Quote Originally Posted by Panserbjorne View Post
    I added storage for people that would want a deed for it. . .again, if you are not a troll or a forum-mite, why not visit or BETTER YET, you could CREATE a thread on Raids!

    I think the real reason that you are upset is that you feel you are losing control since ED TR and you are trying to force Turbine to listen to you about EVERYTHING as a result.

    Forum-mite n.

    Definition: I don't mean the people that commonly visit forums. I mean "forum-mites" like the invisible pest behind the dog's ear.

    "Forum-mites" are tiny people that think very much of themselves and really they just spend all their time where people can hear them. . .but they don't really do anything useful. Just like a mite behind a dog's ear. . .you can't get at them because they never directly engage, they are like nit-pickers, unfortunately if you ignore them, mites only flourish. Trolls might directly try to disrupt a thread but they don't have support of other trolls, but mites will erode the base of a thread without adding anything to the discussion, they just fill up the ears with drivel. They criticize others and don't really bother advancing the situation in a productive way. They don't point out ways an idea could be better. . .and the phrase "IMHEUIO" was created for THEM. . .

    Unfortunately, mites are always sticking together so they are horrible to get rid of. . .they are like pervasive pests.

    The expression goes beyond, "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." It is greater than that. You are actively tracking down threads to let others know you don't like it and making sure others don't support it as well. . .again. . .repeatedly. Almost like you think that you are "saving" other readers from some horrible fate, or trying to be incredibly manipulative! I am just putting forth more ideas for Turbine. . .considering every idea that I am putting forth is different. . .it borders on harassment. Don't you see the difference between what I am doing and what you are?

    Again, it is Turbine's idea, I guess you should ask them what they are talking in regards to. . .and they DID propose that we decide. . .and we HAVE NOT decided as a community. . .we need an in-game way to vote. . .not by listening to all you forum-mites claiming to speak for everyone but really you are just the vocal minority. . .lol

    Turbine if you would be so kind. . .what did you mean when you suggested we choose between Housing and Raids??

    Did you mean LoTRO Housing?

    I personally favor instanced Housing. . .but would like to know what they meant. . .I understand providing information is not a promise. . .but would imagine what they were talking about should have been able to be on a white board for a couple weeks now.

    If Housing is universally despised, and Turbine employees are able to play DDO as well, how could they possibly be convinced by enough people to let us choose?

    Somewhere along the line, Turbine must have heard enough favorable views about Housing that they decided that they should give us an option. . .that does not happen by accident.
    he have decided and we want STORAGE you are the only one not on board with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gkar View Post
    If the entire post is without merit it is a waste of everyone's time to pick at it piece by piece.

    /chuckles

    I can tell you are a professional programmer with that level of understanding.

    Let me just say...mushrooms and doors. You will know what I'm talking about if you know anything about DDO's history.
    Oh, I love the Mushrooms and Doors thread. . .about the odditiies of New York city being similar. . .unfortunately the link is dead, it was from old forums. . .it is found here though:
    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...P25Oaz-v_Odgwg

    I likened the problems with DDO to the first Jurassic Park movie though where he explains that Dennis Nedry is gone and all that could be done is go through millions of lines of code to find out what he did. . .only Dennis Nedry=the original DDO programmers that might have feared going F2P was going to fail and decided it was time to update their resume and find work elsewhere. Long story short, I think a bunch of people jumped ship.

    Not sure if that is what happened but is the way I look at it.

    What kind of code is DDO written in, Gkar??

    Aren't mobs/AI added to an instance after the environment is already crafted? Do you think they don't keep the texture files, bump-mapped objects and AI scripts in separate files before they add them to the code base?


    If they can create more than one version of an instance on a separate server, why not two instances of the same quest on the same server. . .just compare the original code from the graphic designer to those that coded for mobs/loot later and remove the database code for querying anything but images, only query for extensions of specific files, for example, .img/.gifs/.mpegs etc. ..any queries that needed to be done for non-visual information could be added later if necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panserbjorne View Post

    I likened the problems with DDO to the first Jurassic Park movie though where he explains that Dennis Nedry is gone and all that could be done is go through millions of lines of code to find out what he did. . .only Dennis Nedry=the original DDO programmers that might have feared going F2P was going to fail and decided it was time to update their resume and find work elsewhere. Long story short, I think a bunch of people jumped ship.


    If they can create more than one version of an instance on a separate server, why not two instances of the same quest on the same server. . .just compare the original code from the graphic designer to those that coded for mobs/loot later and remove the database code for querying anything but images, only query for extensions of specific files, for example, .img/.gifs/.mpegs etc. ..any queries that needed to be done for non-visual information could be added later if necessary.

    At least we now know why your ideas are really, really bad and your total lack of understanding of how MMOs are designed, created, and coded.

    Wow, just wow.

    Go back to the drawing board again and re-post the same topic for the 3rd or 4th time. Better yet, don't. You would be wasting your time - but it is yours to waste.

    Your time might be better spent to stop playing around with this pipe dream and come up with some ways to improve our current system, you know, the Guild Housing/Airships we all have and use now. You might, and I mean really might, get some support if you can come up with some better ideas then the ones you have put forth in your numerous threads on this topic - which the community has said they do not want in their game at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panserbjorne View Post
    I added storage for people that would want a deed for it. . .
    Which is very nice of you, but only helps if the "Deed" concept itself is desirable, which it really isn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Panserbjorne View Post
    ... if you are not a troll or a forum-mite, why not visit or BETTER YET, you could CREATE a thread on Raids!
    It happens from time to time, but those who create them realize they're talking to other forumites, rather than necessarily making an idea pitch to Turbine. Also, when prospective raid threads are maid, the originators of ideas considered "bad" by those discussing them let them die.

    Quote Originally Posted by Panserbjorne View Post
    I think the real reason that you are upset is that you feel you are losing control since ED TR and you are trying to force Turbine to listen to you about EVERYTHING as a result.
    None of us (I think) have the illusion of control over Turbines decision making. If anything, the ED TR fiasco was a nice show by Turbine that they're willing to listen to and consider their player's opinions. I doubt it gave any of us an illusion of individual control.

    Quote Originally Posted by Panserbjorne View Post
    Forum-mite n. <snip/definition>
    That's cute

    Quote Originally Posted by Panserbjorne View Post
    They don't point out ways an idea could be better. . .and the phrase "IMHEUIO" was created for THEM. . .
    First, I have no idea what "IMHEUIO" means. Second, your proposals thus far don't need refinement, they need replacement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Panserbjorne View Post
    Unfortunately, mites are always sticking together so they are horrible to get rid of. . .they are like pervasive pests.
    ROFLMFAO Yah, the posters in this thread have a long history of running around the forum as a pack, always sticking together and taking eachothers sides...

    Quote Originally Posted by Panserbjorne View Post
    The expression goes beyond, "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." It is greater than that. You are actively tracking down threads to let others know you don't like it and making sure others don't support it as well. . .again. . .repeatedly. Almost like you think that you are "saving" other readers from some horrible fate, or trying to be incredibly manipulative! I am just putting forth more ideas for Turbine. . .considering every idea that I am putting forth is different. . .it borders on harassment. Don't you see the difference between what I am doing and what you are?
    If you post ideas in the forums, expect a response. If people like the idea, the response will be posative, if they don't it will be negative. If you think people are actively following you on the forums, waiting -nay- drooling for you to post something just so they can give you carp about it, don't flatter yourself, you're not Chai.

    Quote Originally Posted by Panserbjorne View Post
    Again, it is Turbine's idea, I guess you should ask them what they are talking in regards to. . .and they DID propose that we decide. . .and we HAVE NOT decided as a community. . .we need an in-game way to vote. . .not by listening to all you forum-mites claiming to speak for everyone but really you are just the vocal minority. . .lol
    Tubine's idea was "we're thinking about housing." That's it. They didn't propose that we decide anything, there is nothing to vote on. Us "forum-mites" don't pretend to speak for everybody, just ourselves. As it turns out, you've generated something very few people have accomplished: you've put fourth an idea that generated a unanimous consensus from it's respondents, be proud. If we all liked your ideas would we still be a minority that's non representative of the player base?

    Quote Originally Posted by Panserbjorne View Post
    Turbine if you would be so kind. . .what did you mean when you suggested we choose between Housing and Raids??
    Again, you misunderstood, there is no vote!

    Quote Originally Posted by Panserbjorne View Post
    If Housing is universally despised, and Turbine employees are able to play DDO as well, how could they possibly be convinced by enough people to let us choose.

    Somewhere along the line, Turbine must have heard enough favorable views about Housing that they decided that they should give us an option. . .that does not happen by accident.
    Yes, housing has been requested in the past, that's why it's on the white board. The idea of housing isn't universally despised, just your notions of how it should be implemented are. Again, there is nothing housing related to vote on, no choice to be made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PermaBanned View Post
    ROFLMFAO Yah, the posters in this thread have a long history of running around the forum as a pack, always sticking together and taking eachothers sides...
    Yeah I don't think I've ever been in a thread with so many people that I usually argue with and had us all agreeing before these.

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    No to individual player housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charononus View Post
    panser you don't get it, you have every type of forumite from trolls, to powergamers, to casuals all saying your ideas are absolutely horrid.

    There are people in your last few threads that game completely differently from me, that I have never before agreed with on the forums, all saying that even if turbine does housing it should never ever look anything like your ideas. You are even alienating people that might want housing just because your ideas are so bad. Every post you make makes it less likely housing will ever happen as you draw a bigger and bigger coalition of players that are against it.

    As someone that doesn't want housing I should probably thank you for this because you're making it more likely to never happen.
    It says something when even i agree with you (or the other way around.) The ideas for housing pres3ented are pointlessly complicated and useless. And this thread should STILL be in ideas and suggestions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bartharok View Post
    It says something when even i agree with you (or the other way around.) The ideas for housing pres3ented are pointlessly complicated and useless. And this thread should STILL be in ideas and suggestions.
    All around, those are generally correct statements
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panserbjorne View Post
    I think the real reason that you are upset is that you feel you are losing control since ED TR and you are trying to force Turbine to listen to you about EVERYTHING as a result.
    Isn't that what you are trying and failing to do with your incessant childish posting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Panserbjorne View Post
    Turbine if you would be so kind. . .what did you mean when you suggested we choose between Housing and Raids??

    Did you mean LoTRO Housing?
    Listen to DDOCast 275 and learn why LOTRO housing will never happen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwzCt77-jqc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Panserbjorne View Post
    Somewhere along the line, Turbine must have heard enough favorable views about Housing that they decided that they should give us an option. . .that does not happen by accident.
    You are the only muppet in the room who has mistakenly interpreted what was posted. You're now fixated on your misinterpretation.

    If there was a choice between raids and other playable content versus drivel like you're posting, it's not really a choice.

    I know you're not very experienced in being told 'No' but here's some free advice. When everyone else in the discussion are actively disagreeing with you, it's time for you to stop repeating the same post.

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    Default Seriously?

    You made another thread about housing? This is what, the fourth?

    In the time you've spent posting about this nonsense, you could've found eight different games to satisfy your housing obsession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartharok View Post
    It says something when even i agree with you (or the other way around.) The ideas for housing pres3ented are pointlessly complicated and useless. And this thread should STILL be in ideas and suggestions.
    Does it make you feel as dirty as it makes me feel? =P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charononus View Post
    Yeah I don't think I've ever been in a thread with so many people that I usually argue with and had us all agreeing before these.
    Quote Originally Posted by bartharok View Post
    It says something when even i agree with you (or the other way around.) The ideas for housing pres3ented are pointlessly complicated and useless. And this thread should STILL be in ideas and suggestions.
    Quote Originally Posted by PermaBanned View Post
    All around, those are generally correct statements
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    Does it make you feel as dirty as it makes me feel? =P
    It does make me feel dirty too....

    Just goes to show how bad an idea is when so many people with opposite views on so many things come together in solidarity when they read something that is detrimental to our game.

    But don't expect any hugs or koom-by-ya.


    Quote Originally Posted by hsinclair
    I heard the devs hate all wizards, bards, clerics, fighters, and fuzzy bunnies and only want us to play halfling barbarian/paladin shuriken specialists!

    It's totally true, I have a reliable source. You better reroll now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    Your time might be better spent to stop playing around with this pipe dream and come up with some ways to improve our current system, you know, the Guild Housing/Airships we all have and use now. You might, and I mean really might, get some support if you can come up with some better ideas then the ones you have put forth in your numerous threads on this topic - which the community has said they do not want in their game at all.
    Please No. Because I think that due to his desire to have player housing at level 1, he would be on the side of the Small Guilds (only 1 person guilds) argument and the damage having this kind of individual representing us would be irreparable.
    Best he keep making pipe dream threads and consider the 20-30 individuals per thread as tiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charononus View Post
    Does it make you feel as dirty as it makes me feel? =P
    Need... more...SOAP!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panserbjorne View Post
    If they can create more than one version of an instance on a separate server, why not two instances of the same quest on the same server. . .just compare the original code from the graphic designer to those that coded for mobs/loot later and remove the database code for querying anything but images, only query for extensions of specific files, for example, .img/.gifs/.mpegs etc. ..any queries that needed to be done for non-visual information could be added later if necessary.
    theres lots of speculation that crafting halls and quest instances are shared that result in lag. why are you suggesting we have more lag?

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    Ok, went ahead and searched for the original post on housing, because you know, there have been a ton of these posts all from one person lately so it gets hard to keep track of everything. Quoting from Tolero on 8/14

    "We have to choose where to invest, so if raids are really the thing and housing is useless let us know. Raids get a lot of forum traffic but not necessarily the player usage. "

    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...e2#post5066206

    So, I'm going to be part of the chorus that is saying, I have seen all the ideas tossed out in the many posts by the OP with many ideas about housing. In the end have determined that "housing is useless, please invest that time on raids." Or, since I've seen many people say basically the same thing in many of these post even that may be tl:dr, so let me just say "No means no."
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