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    why always such nervous replies ?

    i thanks Tolero and the staff that fix some bugs, you should be happy not angry.

    i hope to read soon a patch notes.



    p.s. relax ppl, ..it's only a game... )

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    Hope it fixes servants of the overlord we were unable to get into it last night it kept booting us out,

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    Default Epic Sadness!!!

    I had this day off (nearly two weeks after the xpak) to play ALL DAY!!! Oh wow, this really is a bummer....

    Hopefully it will be QUICK!

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    V ery Soon
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    N eeding to flag will visit Grogan's Coliseum
    1 Time and then no more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woebringer View Post
    V ery Soon
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    You win the thread
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    can't help to think this is to fix the loot problem I just read "GH-loot-in-House-K-quest"...
    which I think is a good think but still funny it can't be said straight out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patang01 View Post
    Lemme guess - you're primarily fixing the Druid beguile since it's effecting the game not the player. While I support this we see these patches come out when someone is taking advantage of the game due to bugs you create and whereas the long term bugs languish for years. Like the floating arti pet after it tries to climb latters.

    I'm guessing this won't fix the fact that the race tree keeps resetting on my Human fighter either. I apologize for the combative tone, but it's a pattern I've noticed.

    Hopefully I'm dead wrong and this will actually fix something that benefits all players.
    ...you are getting the reset aswell, great I thought it was just me that had done something wrong on my monk!
    Also I would hope that letting my human druid and my bladeforged Socc/pala take Epic spell power feats is in this hotfix, as they are now stuck where they are in regards to leveling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vampiregoat69 View Post
    Hope it fixes servants of the overlord we were unable to get into it last night it kept booting us out,
    This appears to be a random instance bug. I have had it happen in Tangleroot, Von Series and a couple of other places...The quest panel would pop up and once we selected the difficulty and tried to zone in, it just boots you similar to a failed teleport but without the "failed teleport" message.

    Every time I have had to re-log and the problem with that specific quest disappeared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ValenGodspeed View Post
    ...you are getting the reset aswell, great I thought it was just me that had done something wrong on my monk!
    Also I would hope that letting my human druid and my bladeforged Socc/pala take Epic spell power feats is in this hotfix, as they are now stuck where they are in regards to leveling.
    I'm guessing this will fix exploits only.

    The rest is going to have to wait until the patch and U20 and beyond. Unless of course there's a new scheme to spend shards. Sorry, I hate to be like this but it's the MO of the last patches. Maybe just maybe they'll throw a bone in there for the rest of us like fixing the murderous sporadic lag but I doubt it. That'll require investigation and a solid patch fixed to be broken again in the next update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tolero View Post
    So just some special notes regarding this patch...

    We're breaking our usual pattern here a bit with today's update. Normally we like to give more advanced notice for "patches", but we are trying to get the bug fixes/crash fixes out ahead of the holiday weekend for players. Apologies for the short notice. Release notes will be available very shortly.
    "Normally / Scheduled"


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    Yay, once again the EU gets the shaft. Lucky us. We really should've known better by now than to believe the whole "going global" thing.
    It's definitely an N-word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patang01 View Post
    I'm guessing this will fix exploits only.

    The rest is going to have to wait until the patch and U20 and beyond. Unless of course there's a new scheme to spend shards. Sorry, I hate to be like this but it's the MO of the last patches. Maybe just maybe they'll throw a bone in there for the rest of us like fixing the murderous sporadic lag but I doubt it. That'll require investigation and a solid patch fixed to be broken again in the next update.
    Unfortunately I fear you are right, we will see when the patch notes come online...
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    Thanks for another patch with just 1h of notice. Just wasted more hours in your bugged EE WGU with my gf unable to complete. And again tons of resources were wasted in this quest. Way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorlong View Post
    And then the asian players will be upset. Or what about third shifters on their day off, wanting to get some gaming in?

    There is no good time to do updates for a game that is worldwide, so they pick the largest audience and work around there. The US is the main audience, and they are based in the US, so they work around that schedule.
    I agree though the data collected through the DDOracle shows that 2AM-6AM Boston time is the lowest number of login/hour time, so it is probably the best time ( as in the least disruptive one ) to put a maintenance window.

    While I say it's bad for me ( in Europe ), if there is evidence that it's the best time ( as in graphs showing that it's a the lowest time in term of user in game for example ) then I'll shut up.
    Untril such time I'll just keep bringing it up every time they kill an European evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll View Post
    Anyone else thinking about the "Team Amrica: World Police" theme song right now?
    Yep, me.
    There's days when I'm of the opinion that Americans consider themselves as being The World. ( or being alone in the world )

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimlock View Post
    Can I remind you that this is a game created and run by a company in the United States whose main customer base consists of American citizens?

    Can I also remind you that from a business perspective hiring and staffing a group to work a third shift schedule for a software/gaming company would amount to a ridiculous amount of labor/overhead not to mention overtime expenses that does not have any ROI what so ever?

    Please be realistic. You live in Europe/Asia you will have to deal with United States timezones with respect to patches/updates.
    Can I remind you that Turbine brought back into US the European Servers as a will to be a Worldwide operator ?
    Can I remind you that from a business perspective they have to have on call staff and off main shift staff to do puny things like GMing and emergency recovery, and that it's not a full time shift, but occasional operations, there's no need to hire a full shift of people, just to adapt working hours to the job to do... That's what happens when I work from 2 to 6 AM... I'm not at work during the day as I already have worked my hours.

    Be realistic too : You are not the center of the world, even if you think you are.

    A company that wish to provide a service on a worldwide basis has to take into account when it put it's maintenance window and adapt said maintenance window so that it has the lowest impact on it's customer, that's what the telecom operators worldwide have been doing since the epoch...

    Quote Originally Posted by Micron View Post
    That's Oz, Korea and Japan peak playing hours. Try again!
    If you are more numerous than peak hour Europe then it's ok, but all the numbers from DDOracle says that it's the lowest activity time. Thus, the time when there will be the least disruption.

    If Turbine shows data that it's at Europe's peak time the lowest activity time, then I'll just shut up, but until then all the data we have at hand say that they are not doing these things at the least disruptive time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flavilandile View Post
    I agree though the data collected through the DDOracle shows that 2AM-6AM Boston time is the lowest number of login/hour time, so it is probably the best time ( as in the least disruptive one ) to put a maintenance window.
    Apparently you missed this post, so I'll paste it in here for your convenience.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimlock View Post
    Can I remind you that this is a game created and run by a company in the United States whose main customer base consists of American citizens?

    Can I also remind you that from a business perspective hiring and staffing a group to work a third shift schedule for a software/gaming company would amount to a ridiculous amount of labor/overhead not to mention overtime expenses that does not have any ROI what so ever?

    Please be realistic. You live in Europe/Asia you will have to deal with United States timezones with respect to patches/updates.
    Quote Originally Posted by Flavilandile View Post
    There's days when I'm of the opinion that Americans consider themselves as being The World. ( or being alone in the world )
    You want this company to turn its entire work cycle on its ear so you don't miss a couple of hours of game time. Who exactly is it that's being self-absorbed here?

    I used to play a game based in Europe. I would often miss out on being the first to enjoy new features and content because they were released while I was still in bed. I didn't go onto their forums whining about how they should hold off on releases until the afternoon because it would be better for me personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patang01 View Post
    I'm guessing this will fix exploits only.

    The rest is going to have to wait until the patch and U20 and beyond. Unless of course there's a new scheme to spend shards. Sorry, I hate to be like this but it's the MO of the last patches. Maybe just maybe they'll throw a bone in there for the rest of us like fixing the murderous sporadic lag but I doubt it. That'll require investigation and a solid patch fixed to be broken again in the next update.
    There will be some epic nerdrage if they nerf Beguile/fix VON1 and do not fix 20th rewards, the fact that you need two EDs capped for Epic Spellpower even though it only says you need one, bring back Saga NPCs, fix Abbot, or fix the lack of confirmation window for Loot Rerolls.

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    Please fix the 20th raid reward bug and saga xp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flavilandile View Post
    We should getting used to be considered as second class players by now... At least they are not wrecking a Friday evening.... This time.

    Tolero,

    You really cannot do those updates between 2 AM and 6 AM Boston Time ?

    Is there any technical reason why you cannot do them at these time ?

    Is there any commercial reason why you cannot do them at these time ?
    It doesn't matter when an update is done, it will inconvenience somebody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimlock View Post
    Can I remind you that this is a game created and run by a company in the United States whose main customer base consists of American citizens?

    Can I also remind you that from a business perspective hiring and staffing a group to work a third shift schedule for a software/gaming company would amount to a ridiculous amount of labor/overhead not to mention overtime expenses that does not have any ROI what so ever?

    Please be realistic. You live in Europe/Asia you will have to deal with United States timezones with respect to patches/updates.
    I wonder how long this game would last if everyone else but north americans quit playing it. Glad Turbine don't think like you do.
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