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    Default Hall of Heroes - Devs, what gives?

    If you look through my post history, I actually made a suggestion for a "Hall of Heroes" for TRs &c.

    What you've made is much more massive than I had envisioned. I was thinking something more the size of the Portable Hole or the Crafting Hall.

    Yet, I'm confused.

    Why separate Forgotten Realms from Eberron? The area is self-contained and doesn't exist anywhere, there's no reason to segregate them. I would think that a central travel and social nexus would have been the best idea.
    The Eberron area needs a ship portal (as does house Cannith), even if it's only an out-going ship portal like the Underdark.
    The Forgotten Realms Hall goes only one place. For what reason?

    Why release it now? This can't be finished. It needs a bar, an auctioneer, vendors, pawn shops, it's own crafting machines. It needs to be one-stop convenient with no loading screens and have oddities and wonders that the people who can't get in can only imagine.

    As it is, it takes longer to cross from the entry to the exit that it would to boot the client. It's pretty, but like my ex, it's pretty vacant and not terribly helpful.

    It all just seems so premature. I guess you just had to meet a forced deadline with the expansion pack to justify... whatever. Oh well.


    Would you like to share your intentions as to what this place will become?
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    I read somewhere that they intend to add other portals. I don't recall which thread, and search is not working for me, atm.
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    I mostly hope they add a way to go from the eberron hall of heroes to the eveningstar one. Because having to relog just to teleport to the other realm sucks. Unless I missed something.
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    Cordovan, Devs, anyone who can do something bout it - please upgrade the Hall of Heroes.

    Good things:

    - We finally have a way to FR from Ebberon that is not timed OR doesnt require to go via 4 loading screens. That is awesome.
    - We finally have a way to get to those level 15 quests in Eve that doesnt require to have a Key to Eve in inventory or completing level 16 chain. That is awesome as well.
    - We have a character selection option to start in FR or Ebberon. Very cool.
    - The Hall looks absolutely fantastic. My thanks to designer.
    - We finally have teleporter to Marketplace, House cannith and IQ. That is just great.

    Things to update:

    - The hall is dead. There is just mail box and nothing else. Putting in Bar, Auction House, Bank, arcane and divine mats sellers, hireling vendors, heroic trainers, epic trainer and Spirit Binder (ESPECIALLY spirit Binder) would make that place absolutely awesome. I mean, absolutely awesome. The place to go, the place to bind your soul to. Please, do so. Putting in (in addition to all previous stuff) equipment brokers would be nice to.
    - Ebberon and FR portals are way too far from each other. It would be a blast if you would make the path to them shorter. Pretty please?

    Would be awesome if any dev/Cordovan could respond on this.
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    Additionally, making hall of heroes aesible from Airship and reating an airship entrane in hall of Heroes would make that instane extremely popular!

    I believe that, maybe exept for "shortening" the distance between FR and Ebberon portals, all updates I suggested should be easy to implement and all of them would be met with huge happiness in the ommunity

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    Make it the arwic subway, but dont blow anything up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viktorserak View Post
    Cordovan, Devs, anyone who can do something bout it - please upgrade the Hall of Heroes.

    Good things:

    snip

    Things to update:

    snip.
    /bitter a bit
    Like many good ideas in this game, from the yellow dopant through CitW chests to huge maps, the implementation is abysmal
    thats said,
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    Default I think they did a fine job but,

    I think they did a fine job but, why are some of the statues in the pose they are in?
    It looks very strange and not that heroic in my opinion.

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    New in the DDO Shop:
    Hall of Heroes Upgrades!
    Bar - 590TP
    Auction House - 590TP
    Bank - 590TP
    Mat Merchants - 590TP
    Hireling vendor - 590TP
    Epic Hireling vendor - 590TP
    Heroic trainers - 590TP
    Epic trainer - 590TP
    Spirit Binder - 1590TP
    Each has a 1 Week Timer!

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    I have faith it'll wind up being just as well developed as the Temple of the Sovereign Host or the Black Loch trainer/vendor hub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemoneyes View Post
    New in the DDO Shop:
    Hall of Heroes Upgrades!
    Bar - 590TP
    Auction House - 590TP
    Bank - 590TP
    Mat Merchants - 590TP
    Hireling vendor - 590TP
    Epic Hireling vendor - 590TP
    Heroic trainers - 590TP
    Epic trainer - 590TP
    Spirit Binder - 1590TP
    Each has a 1 Week Timer!

    :>
    Sounds like a great idea ;]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemoneyes View Post
    New in the DDO Shop:
    Hall of Heroes Upgrades!
    Bar - 590TP
    Auction House - 590TP
    Bank - 590TP
    Mat Merchants - 590TP
    Hireling vendor - 590TP
    Epic Hireling vendor - 590TP
    Heroic trainers - 590TP
    Epic trainer - 590TP
    Spirit Binder - 1590TP
    Each has a 1 Week Timer!

    :>
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    Quote Originally Posted by viktorserak View Post
    Cordovan, Devs, anyone who can do something bout it - please upgrade the Hall of Heroes.

    Good things:

    - We finally have a way to FR from Ebberon that is not timed OR doesnt require to go via 4 loading screens. That is awesome.
    - We finally have a way to get to those level 15 quests in Eve that doesnt require to have a Key to Eve in inventory or completing level 16 chain. That is awesome as well.
    - We have a character selection option to start in FR or Ebberon. Very cool.
    - The Hall looks absolutely fantastic. My thanks to designer.
    - We finally have teleporter to Marketplace, House cannith and IQ. That is just great.

    Things to update:

    - The hall is dead. There is just mail box and nothing else. Putting in Bar, Auction House, Bank, arcane and divine mats sellers, hireling vendors, heroic trainers, epic trainer and Spirit Binder (ESPECIALLY spirit Binder) would make that place absolutely awesome. I mean, absolutely awesome. The place to go, the place to bind your soul to. Please, do so. Putting in (in addition to all previous stuff) equipment brokers would be nice to.
    - Ebberon and FR portals are way too far from each other. It would be a blast if you would make the path to them shorter. Pretty please?

    Would be awesome if any dev/Cordovan could respond on this.
    Pawn Shops. Let's put a set of those somewhere popular like this so people will use them again! I used to make daily trips out to Ataraxia to check what goodies people had to sell cause their inventory got full while on the island and they didn't want to come all the way back to town.

    Agreed on that; just add some helpful stuff like that and we're done.

    Right now it's just a spooky big empty space that takes a while to run through; statues are nice and all but forgotten and ignored when a party is waiting for you to show up for a quest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaeton_Seraph View Post
    Why release it now? This can't be finished. It needs a bar, an auctioneer, vendors, pawn shops, it's own crafting machines. It needs to be one-stop convenient with no loading screens and have oddities and wonders that the people who can't get in can only imagine.
    And once you get all that done please change the name from 'Hall of Heroes' to 'Mall of Heroes'.

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    I woul have preferred that the planescaller on our ships be able to teleport you to the Forgotten Realms.

    Have another planescaller in the FR to teleport you back to Eberron...
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    Firstb thought: cash grab. The level of ugliness inside is astonishing. 1-2 min. till you reach the different settings.

    I am very happy to spend money for this.... store house of ugly greek statues when something like this will come true:

    Make the whole place a tavern -> regenerating clickies etc.pp.

    Put all Brokers, Pawns, Vendors, Bankers, Auctioneers in there. Put Cannith deconstruction altars in there.

    Simply give a central point for logging in and out. Make gameplay or quality of life better. And most of all things, give incentives to actually spend money.

    Give people a reason why it is like it is right now and give them a glimpse to what it will finally be. I won't spend money on a stupid hall with wannabe greek statues. 2-3 min running is no difference to 2 -3 min run/loadingscreen/run/loadingscreen.

    Make it a reason to spend, not by enforcing but by giving options like a central demi-plane marketplace. This can become such a nice thing. Right now it is another half hearted work in progress and advertised with spending money for transporting there.
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    So, interesting thing, I have a premium account and have not purchased the Hall of Heroes. But I noticed that the "buy me" button disappears when I choose my FR Iconic character on the character selection screen.

    So I pressed "Transport to Eberron" and it loaded me into the Hall of Heroes (Ebberon one I would think).

    I agree, the place is huge and serves no useful purpose. It IS pretty tho.

    All the statues have plaques in front of them that I would assume are meant to be clickable and have little stories or descriptions or something. But they are not clickable.

    Now, maybe because I picked the Ebberron one, but it has a normal Eberron-style teleporter in it and I was able to get out to any of the normal teleporter destinations (I went to the inspired quarter).

    I didn't check to see if I could have gone to FR, I still have a lot of coin lord favor on that character to get before I can start having fun with it

    Since I was able to access it without paying anything I expect a developer to be tasked with fixing it post-haste! Nothing can be more important.


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    Hall of Heroes without access to guild ship (buffs) is pointless. Add a one stop shrine which gives all guild buffs, and you have a winner.

    What is the purpose of it? Fable III with its "Sanctuary" comes first to mind, but that was accessible instantly from anywhere, instead having to log out first. You used it for outfitting your self among other things.

    Basically it should be a Hall of Treasures for DDO, with achievements and trophies or something.

    Or maybe a hub for viewing and selecting challenges and groups in lvl range. Selecting a quest would teleport you to the closest public area, or near the quest giver.

    Or see which of your friends and guildies are online, and then choose a toon.

    And a dragons hoard of platinum, gold and gems (and those useless eveningstar challenge collectibles) to reflect your pp balance

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrkGrismer View Post
    So, interesting thing, I have a premium account and have not purchased the Hall of Heroes. But I noticed that the "buy me" button disappears when I choose my FR Iconic character on the character selection screen......
    The Iconic (Ironic?) characters can move freely between the worlds, that came as part of the cost of the expansion, so you would have no problem going back and forth. The "Buy Me" is only for Eberron lore characters giving them a way to FR without having to go through the spinner's web, and of course a money grab for Turbine. I mean 795 points and a long run through an empty hall vs. 3 loading screens - talk about ridiculously overpriced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaeton_Seraph View Post
    Why separate Forgotten Realms from Eberron?
    I expect it is really just to keep the lore oriented folk happy. Eberron and FR are completely different D&D world settings and shouldn't be linked at all so having them separated by a 'mystical wibbly wobbly scooby-doo style' barrier solves some of the lore leakage concerns. Turbine has really only used FR as a way to break the level 20 barrier of Eberron and to create new content (WoC is pushing FR as the main D&D world to be used by everyone so Eberron is a dead-end) so you can expect to be spending a lot of your time in FR from now on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phaeton_Seraph View Post
    Why release it now? This can't be finished. It needs a bar, an auctioneer, vendors, pawn shops, it's own crafting machines. It needs to be one-stop convenient with no loading screens and have oddities and wonders that the people who can't get in can only imagine.
    Totally agree. While the art is nice (could be enhanced by some plaques on the statues stating who they represent in FR lore) and the idea great, having this huge empty hall with a long run between gates is just silly. Add in vendors etc and make it a meeting place - an actual Hall of Heroes - where people can meet and socialise (like the town square outside the Prancing Pony in LOTRO's version of Bree).

    And to save myself some re-typing, my 2 cents worth on transport:

    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...67#post5058967

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