Page 1 of 17 1234511 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 323
  1. #1

    Default Tempest Trapmonkey for new players

    Original build concept by unbongwah.

    This is a self-sufficient TWF trapper build with a decent range option. The achilles heal is low will saves, but that can be mitigated somewhat with spells and clickies.

    No tomes are required or listed. If you happen to have a +2 or better int tome, put the extra skill points toward maxing Open Lock, then the rest in Heal.

    Alignment doesn't matter. In general True Neutral is best because it takes the least amount of damage from mobs. However, you might consider Chaotic Neutral or Chaotic Good if you want to freely wield True Chaos and/or Pure Good weapons without a umd check.

    The build is written as human for dimension door, but you might prefer a different race. Elf, Dwarf and Drow variations are laid out in post 4.

    The previous version of this build is available here. Also, I changed the feats slightly, dropping the cleave option and switching the epic feats around a bit. (Doubleshot replaces Toughness @ 28, Deific Warding becomes the primary choice @ 29, Demage Reduction becomes the primary choice @ 30, and dropped Scion of Celestia from the Legend feat choices @ 30.)


    Tempest Trapmonkey
    18/1/1 Ranger/Fighter/Rogue
    True Neutral Human


    Level Order

    1. Rogue . . . . . 6. Ranger. . . . .11. Ranger. . . . .16. Ranger
    2. Ranger . . . . .7. Ranger . . . . 12. Ranger . . . . 17. Ranger
    3. Ranger . . . . .8. Ranger . . . . 13. Ranger . . . . 18. Ranger
    4. Fighter . . . . 9. Ranger. . . . .14. Ranger. . . . .19. Ranger
    5. Ranger . . . . 10. Ranger . . . . 15. Ranger . . . . 20. Ranger



    Stats
    . . . . . . . .28pt . . 32pt . . 34pt . . 36pt . . Level Up
    . . . . . . . .---- . . ---- . . ---- . . ---- . . --------
    Strength. . . . 16. . . .16. . . .18. . . .18. . . .4: STR
    Dexterity . . . 14. . . .14. . . .14. . . .14. . . .8: STR
    Constitution. . 14. . . .16. . . .14. . . .15. . . 12: STR
    Intelligence. . 14. . . .14. . . .14. . . .14. . . 16: STR
    Wisdom. . . . . .8. . . . 8. . . . 8. . . . 8. . . 20: STR
    Charisma. . . . .8. . . . 8. . . . 8. . . . 8. . . 24: STR
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: STR


    Skills
    . . . . .Rg Rn Rn Fi Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn
    . . . . . 1 .2 .3 .4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    Concent . 2 .1 .1 . . 1. 1. 3. 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Disable . 4 .1 .1 .1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Search. . 4 .1 .1 . . 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Spot. . . 4 .1 .1 .1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    UMD . . . 4 .1 .1 . . 1. 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Open Lo . 4 .1 .1 .½. ½. . . . . .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .19
    Balance . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4
    Jump. . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4
    Haggle. . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4
    Heal. . . 2 . . . . . . . . . .1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3
    Swim. . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .3
    Tumble. . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    . . . . .44 .9 .9 .5. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9



    Feats

    .1. . . . : Point Blank Shot
    .1 Human. : Least Dragonmark: Passage
    .2 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Undead
    .3. . . . : Precision
    .4 Fighter: Exotic Weapon: Khopesh
    .6. . . . : Dodge
    .7 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Construct
    .9. . . . : Improved Critical: Slashing
    12. . . . : Improved Critical: Ranged
    12 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Giant
    15. . . . : Empower Healing Spell
    17 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    18. . . . : Quicken Spell
    21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
    24 Epic . : Two Weapon Defense
    26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    27 Epic . : Epic Reflexes
    28 Destiny: Doubleshot
    29 Destiny: Deific Warding OR Embodiment of Order OR Harbinger of Chaos
    30 Epic . : Epic Damage Reduction
    30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea OR Astral Plane


    Spells

    Ranger
    1. Resist Energy, Ram's Might, Jump, Merfolk's Blessing
    2. Cure Light Wounds, Protection from Energy, Barkskin
    3. Cure Moderate Wounds, Wild Instincts
    4. Freedom of Movement, Cure Serious Wounds


    Enhancements (80 AP)

    Tempest (41 AP)
    • Shield of Whirling Steel, Tempest, Graceful Death, Deflect Arrows, Whirlwind
      1. Improved Reaction III, Whirling Blades
      2. Improved Parry III, Whirling Blades, Sprint Boost I
      3. Storm Dancer, Whirling Blades, Strength
      4. Storm Tempest, The Growing Storm III, Whirling Blades, Strength
      5. Dual Perfection, A Thousand Cuts III, Whirling Blades, Dance of Death III

    Deepwood Stalker (26 AP)
    • Far Shot, Sneak Attack, Exposing Strike, Advanced Sneak Attack
      1. Increased Empathy III, Versatile Empathy II
      2. Survivalist, Skill Boost II
      3. Survivalist, Thrill of the Hunt III, Favored Hunter III
      4. Survivalist, Killer III

    Human (9 AP)
    • Damage Boost, Strength, Saves Boost
      1. Dragonmark Focus: Orien I, Improved Recovery
      2. Lesser Dragonmark: Dimension Door

    Kensei (4 AP)
    • Kensei Focus: Archery
      1. Haste Boost III

    Leveling Guide
    1. Hum0 Damage Boost; Hum1 Dragonmark Focus: Orien I, II
    2. Tem0 Shield of Whirling Steel; Tem1 Item Defense I, II; Tem1 Whirling Blades
    3. Tem2 Haste Boost I, II; Hum1 Skill Focus: Awareness I, II
    4. Hum2 Lesser Dragonmark: Dimension Door; Hum2 Skill Focus: Nimble Fingers I, II
    5. Hum1 Improved Recovery; Hum3 Improved Recovery
    6. Hum3 Heroism; Hum4 Greater Heroism
    7. Tem0 Tempest; Tem1 Item Defense III; Tem2 Whirling Blades
    8. Tem1 Improved Reaction I, II, III; Tem2 Haste Boost III
    9. Tem3 Storm Dancer; Tem3 Whirling Blades
    10. Tem3 Strength; Tem4 Strength
    11. Tem4 Storm Tempest; Tem4 Whirling Blades
    12. Tem4 The Growing Storm I, II, III; Tem5 Dance of Death I
    13. Tem5 Dance of Death II, III; Tem5 Dual Perfection
    14. Tem0 Graceful Death; Tem0 Deflect Arrows; Tem5 Whirling Blades
    15. DS0 Far Shot; DS1 Increased Empathy I, II, III
    16. DS1 Versatile Empathy I, II; DS2 Survivalist
    17. DS0 Sneak Attack; DS2 Skill Boost I; DS3 Survivalist
    18. DS3 Thrill of the Hunt I, II, III; DS3 Favored Hunter I
    19. (Bank 4 AP)
    20. Reset All Trees


    Destiny (24 AP)

    Fury of the Wild
    1. Tunnel Vision III, Primal Scream III
    2. Acute Instincts III, Damage Reduction III
    3. (none)
    4. Gird Against Demons I, Sense Weakness III, Overwhelming Force III
    5. Fury Eternal
    6. Unbridled Fury

    Twists of Fate (19 fate points)
    1. Symetric Strikes (Tier 4 Primal)
    2. Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
    3. Brace for Impact (Tier 1 Sentinel)
    4. Extra Action Boost (Tier 1 Dreadnought)


    Rogue @ 1 for skills, Ranger 2-3 to race to TWF, Fighter @ 4 for Khopesh, then Ranger rest of the way.

    This build used to optionally include cleaves, sacrificing range dps to fit them in, but this has been dropped due dance of death (tier 5 tempest) being a much better option.

    Enhancements are different while leveling through heroics than they are in epics. In heroics, race to Greater Heroism in the human tree to help with trapping skills, then race to tempest Tier 5s for dps. The remaining heroic levels focus on deepwood stalker. Don't take level 19 until you have enough xp to also take 20, then reset all trees and take the final enhancements as listed. By this point you can scroll Greater Heroism. (Use skill boost for help with umd.)


    The build as written doesn't use the Harper Agent tree for two reasons: First, it's a premium feature, and thus not available to brand new players without spending money. And second, I don't personally use the Harper tree on my actual tempest trapmonkey on live. However, Know the Angles would increase your dps, so if you happen to have access to Harper Agent (starting as a VIP, maybe?) and want to make use of it, here's how I would fit it in:

    - Drop the kensei tree entirely
    - Cut back the human tree to 3 AP: Damage Boost & Improved Recovery
    - Switch tempest sprint boost to haste boost, and take it to rank III

    This saves 8 AP, which you then spend on Agent of Good, Toughness II, Know the Angles III. (You might prefer Awareness II to Toughness II.)

    The net result is losing Sprint Boost and Dimension Door for Know the Angles. For me personally, I don't like this trade because I value movement over dps, but it's a perfectly valid choice to prefer dps.

    If doing the Harper variant, the leveling plan through heroics remains the same. The change would take place at 20 when you reset all trees.

  2. #2

    Default General Use

    Casting Spells
    The build as written only starts with 8 wisdom, and you need at least 11 wisdom to cast level 1 spells. (14 wisdom to cast level 4 spells.) When you first get spells at level 6, you'll want to find a wisdom item of at least +3 to allow spellcasting. Until you find a wisdom item you can use Owl's Wisdom potions in the market to get by with. They give you a temporary +4 wisdom that will allow you to memorize and cast your spells. Note that ship buffs often grant +2 wisdom, so that can reduce how much you need from gear.

    Self Healing
    Starting at level 3 you can use your animal empathy ranger ability to cast a lesser vigor effect. This, combined with cure potions, can keep you up until you get cure spells. You get Cure Light at level 10, Cure Moderate at 13 and Cure Serious at 17. Once you get to epic levels you can twist in Rejuvenation Cocoon from Primal Avatar to be your main source of heals.

    Combat
    Apart from cleave and great cleave, your bread and butter melee attack is Exposing Strike, which you get at level 8. The Growing Storm and Dance of Death are both added at level 20 for epics. You also get 5 action boosts per rest, (8 in epics if you twist in extra action boosts), and you can use both your human damage boost and kensei haste boost at the same time. Try to get in the habit of activating both when fighting any orange and red named bosses.

    Buffs
    At creation you can use your dragonmark feat for expeditious retreat, which is a nice quality of life improvement. At levels 9 and 10 you get Heroism and Greater Heroism from the Human tree, which helps with saves and trapping skills. You also get the typical ranger spells: Resist Energy, Ram's Might, Freedom of Movement, Jump, Wild Instincts and Barkskin. A token effort is put into Sprint Boost by level 7, which is nice for those long runs the game starts throwing at you around then. (eg: Sorrowdusk Isle)

    Trapping
    The build as written spends points in trapping skills to give you some margin of error, but you'll still need trapping gear. You'll want to try and find "clean" gear, with no other effects in order to keep the ML as low as possible. For example, Goggles of Disabling +10, ML7. Ever since the lootgen tables were broken good trapping gear has been hard to come by on the auction house, so your best bet will be to get a crafter to make some unbound shards for you. As a general rule, if you supply the essences, it shouldn't be hard to find a crafter to make the shards for you by simply walking into the crafting hall and asking in general chat. I'd try to compile a complete set (spot, search, disable, open lock) of +5s (ML3), +10s (ML7) and +13s (ML11). That quickly becomes expensive, though, so ideally you'll want to make those on BTA blanks to allow all your alts to use the same set. I personally use goggles for spot, search and disable, and gloves for open lock.

    Weapons
    I enthusiastically recommend farming up a pair of ML12 Water Khopeshes from cannith challenges. (See link in signature for tips on how to run challenges.) The paralyzing effect on them is quite effective as a primary source of crowd control. For levels 4-12, just use the best khopeshes you can afford on the auction house. When first starting I typically use the Ember Greataxe until level 4, since TWF isn't so great until you get at least the first feat. (Which this build gets at level 3, followed by khopesh proficency at level 4.) For undead, constructs, ooze and evil outsider weapons, see the Weapon Recipes link in my signature.

    Weaknesses
    Will saves are the bane of your existence. Greater Heroism at level 10 gives you immunity to fear, which is a huge help. At level 16 you get Freedom of Movement to make you immune to hold person, but until then holds can be pretty rough. Also annoying are command and greater command, which requires protection from evil to avoid. You can buy Protection from Evil potions in the Harbor and Market, though I'm not 100% sure they work properly to prevent command. Similarly, magic missiles can get painful, so shield scrolls are worth UMDing in magic missile-heavy quests.

    Of special note is level draining, which you need deathward to prevent. The visor of the flesh render from Tangleroot will be your best friend. They are BTA, so you can stock up with 4-5 of them and then pass them between alts via the shared bank. Another option is to bring hirelings that cast deathward, even if just to summon, cast it, then dismiss them. (You can always DDoor back from the middle of the quest to re-apply deathward as necessary.) Another option is the silver flame necklace from the necropolis packs, but that has limited uses. Once in epics you can buy long lasting deathward potions in Eveningstar for cleric commendations.

  3. #3

    Default Gear

    Here are some basic "starter" gearsets you might consider. A veteran player will likely have better gear from previous questing and/or crafting, but these sets are pretty solid and reasonably attainable for a brand new player. The incomplete sets can be filled out with whatever you can find.


    Level 1-6
    Head:
    Eyes: Troubleshooter's Goggles
    Neck: Troubleshooter's Necklace
    Back: Furor's Hide
    Wrist: Spearbane
    Hand:
    Waist: Rugged Belt
    Feet:
    Ring:
    Ring:
    Trinket: Voice of the Master
    Body: Hammerblock
    Melee: Ember Greataxe, Carnifex, any decent lootgen Khopeshes from auction house
    Range: Greatbow of the Scrag


    Level 7-12
    Head:
    Eyes:
    Neck: Nightforge Gorget
    Back: Cloak of Invisibility
    Wrist: Bracers of Wind
    Hand:
    Waist:
    Feet: Boots of the Mire
    Ring: Ring of the Mire
    Ring:
    Trinket: Voice of the Master
    Body:
    Melee: Elemental Khopesh of Water
    Range: Silver Longbow


    Level 13-19
    Head: Teraza's Perfect Sight
    Eyes:
    Neck: Nightforge Gorget
    Back: Cloak of Invisibility
    Wrist: Bracers of Wind
    Hand: Maenya's Iron Fists
    Waist:
    Feet: Boots of the Mire
    Ring: Ring of the Mire
    Ring: Katra's Razor Wit
    Trinket: Voice of the Master
    Body:
    Melee: Elemental Khopesh of Water
    Range: Bow of Sinew, Bow of the Silver Flame


    Level 20+
    Head:
    Eyes:
    Neck:
    Back: Cloak of Invisibility
    Wrist: Bracers of Wind
    Hand: Purple Dragon Gauntlets
    Waist:
    Feet: Cannith Boots of Propulsion
    Ring: Ring of the Stalker
    Ring:
    Trinket: Voice of the Master
    Body: Hide of the Goristro
    Weapon: Thunderforge* Khopesh
    Range: Thunderforge* Longbow

    The Nightforge Gorget is very strong for new players, and it can be solo farmed on casual once you reach level 9. No completion is needed to farm the gear, so if you happen to be on a bravery streak there's no issue of breaking it on casual. Here's a thread describing how to solo farm it on casual at 9.

    The Cloak of Invisibility is a particularly good item, but since it's from the Tempest Spine raid you might feel like it will be impossible to farm up. Fortunately, the chest where it drops is fairly early on in the quest, and is easily soloed on normal. All you need to do is reach 18 int to bypass a rune, and with this build's starting int of 14 that means all you need is a +4 int item (or Fox's Cunning potions from the marketplace) and you'll be good to go. Here is a youtube video I threw together showing how to solo farm it. Note that I'm running this on a geared out level 16 monk, so I just ignore traps and run past most mobs then fight them in large groups. As a lower level new player you'll probably want to clear as you go. And maybe disable the traps as well. It should be farmable at level 9, the same time you can get the nightforge gorget.

    *Even just the base tier 0 thunderforge base weapons (ML22) are great, and they can be farmed up in the wilderness area (no raid necessary) or even just bought outright, as tier 0 (and 1) are unbound.

  4. #4

    Default Variations

    Here are three racial variations, color coded to help prevent accidentally following the wrong one.


    Elf w/Scimitar, Dex-based with dragonmark for displacement

    Push the second fighter level back to 5 so we can race to ranger 3 for dex to damage with scimitars. After getting dex to damage, race to the displacement dragonmark SLA, taking the Extend Spell feat solely for displacement. (Extended displacement: Yum!) Drop haste boost since we have no damage boost to pair it with.
    Code:
    Tempest Trapmonkey (Elf)
    18/1/1 Ranger/Fighter/Rogue
    True Neutral Elf
    
    
    Level Order
    
    1. Rogue           6. Ranger         11. Ranger         16. Ranger
    2. Ranger          7. Ranger         12. Ranger         17. Ranger
    3. Ranger          8. Ranger         13. Ranger         18. Ranger
    4. Ranger          9. Ranger         14. Ranger         19. Ranger
    5. Fighter        10. Ranger         15. Ranger         20. Ranger
    
    
    Stats
                   28pt     32pt     34pt     36pt     Level Up
                   ----     ----     ----     ----     --------
    Strength        10       10       10       10       4: DEX
    Dexterity       18       18       20       20       8: DEX
    Constitution    12       14       12       13      12: DEX
    Intelligence    16       16       16       16      16: DEX
    Wisdom           8        8        8        8      20: DEX
    Charisma         8        8        8        8      24: DEX
                                                       28: DEX
    
    Skills
             Rg Rn Rn Rn Fi Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn
              1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
             ------------------------------------------------------------
    Concent   2  1  1  1     1  1  3  2  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Disable   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Search    4  1  1  1     2  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Spot      4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    UMD       4  1  1  1     1  2  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Open Lo   4  1  1  1  ½  ½           1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  19
    Balance   4                                                            4
    Jump      4                                                            4
    Haggle    4                                                            4
    Heal      2                       1                                    3
    Swim      3                                                            3
    Tumble    1                                                            1
             ------------------------------------------------------------
             44  9  9  9  5  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9
    
    
    Feats
    
     1        : Point Blank Shot
     2 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Undead
     3        : Least Dragonmark: Shadow
     5 Fighter: Precision
     6        : Extend Spell
     7 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Construct
     9        : Improved Critical: Slashing
    12        : Improved Critical: Ranged
    12 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Giant
    15        : Empower Healing Spell
    17 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    18        : Quicken Spell
    21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
    24 Epic   : Two Weapon Defense
    26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    27 Epic   : Epic Reflexes
    28 Destiny: Doubleshot
    29 Destiny: Deific Warding OR Embodiment of Order OR Harbinger of Chaos
    30 Epic   : Epic Damage Reduction
    30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea OR Astral Plane
    
    
    Spells
    
    Ranger
    
    1. Jump, Ram's Might, Resist Energy, Merfolk's Blessing
    2. Cure Light Wounds, Protection from Energy, Barkskin
    3. Cure Moderate Wounds, Wild Instincts
    4. Freedom of Movement, Cure Serious Wounds
    Enhancements (80 AP) Tempest (42 AP)
    • Shield of Whirling Steel, Tempest, Graceful Death, Deflect Arrows, Whirlwind
      1. Item Defense I, Improved Reaction III, Whirling Blades
      2. Improved Parry III, Whirling Blades, Sprint Boost I
      3. Storm Dancer, Whirling Blades, Dexterity
      4. Storm Tempest, The Growing Storm III, Whirling Blades, Dexterity
      5. Dual Perfection, A Thousand Cuts III, Whirling Blades, Dance of Death III
    Deepwood Stalker (26 AP)
    • Far Shot, Sneak Attack, Exposing Strike, Advanced Sneak Attack
      1. Increased Empathy II, Versatile Empathy II
      2. Survivalist, Improved Weapon Finesse, Skill Boost II
      3. Survivalist, Thrill of the Hunt III, Favored Hunter I, Dexterity
      4. Survivalist, Killer III
    Elf (12 AP)
    • Elven Accuracy, Elven Dexterity
      1. Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus III, Keen Senses II
      2. Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow
      3. Greater Dragonmark of Shadow
    Leveling Guide
    1. (Bank 4 AP)
    2. Tem0 Shield of Whirling Steel; Tem1 Item Defense I; Tem1 Whirling Blades; Tem1 Improved Reaction I; (Bank 3 AP)
    3. DS0 Far Shot; DS1 Increased Empathy I, II; DS1 Versatile Empathy I, II; DS2 Improved Weapon Finesse; (Bank 1 AP)
    4. Tem0 Tempest; Elf0 Elven Accuracy; Elf0 Elven Dexterity; Elf1 Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus I
    5. Elf1 Keen Senses I, II; Elf1 Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus II, III
    6. Elf2 Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow; Elf3 Greater Dragonmark of Shadow
    7. Tem2 Sprint Boost I; Tem2 Whirling Blades; Tem2 Improved Parry I
    8. Tem3 Dexterity; Tem3 Storm Dancer
    9. Tem3 Whirling Blades; Tem1 Improved Reaction II, III
    10. Tem2 Improved Parry II, III; Tem4 Storm Tempest
    11. Tem4 The Growing Storm I, II, III; Tem0 Graceful Death
    12. Tem4 Dexterity; Tem4 Whirling Blades
    13. Tem5 Dance of Death I, II, III; (Bank 1 AP)
    14. Tem0 Deflect Arrows; Tem5 Whirling Blades; Tem5 Dual Perfection
    15. Tem5 A Thousand Cuts I, II, III; DS0 Sneak Attack
    16. DS2 Skill Boost I, II; DS2 Survivalist
    17. DS3 Dexterity; DS3 Survivalist
    18. DS0 Exposing Strike; DS3 Thrill of the Hunt I, II, III
    19. DS3 Favored Hunter I; DS4 Killer I, II, III
    20. Tem0 Whirlwind; DS0 Advanced Sneak Attack; DS4 Survivalist
    Destiny (24 AP) Fury of the Wild
    1. Tunnel Vision III, Primal Scream III
    2. Acute Instincts III, Damage Reduction III
    3. (none)
    4. Gird Against Demons I, Sense Weakness III, Overwhelming Force III
    5. Fury Eternal
    6. Unbridled Fury
    Twists of Fate (19 fate points)
    1. Symetric Strikes (Tier 4 Primal)
    2. Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
    3. Brace for Impact (Tier 1 Sentinel)


    Dwarf w/Dwarven Axe, Strength-based

    Push the fighter level back to 5 only so that you can take tempest strength @ 4 to pair with the levelup in strength. Use dwarven axe instead of khopesh for flavor. Khopesh is actually better, so feel free to take khopesh @ 5 with the fighter bonus feat, moving dodge to 6 and dropping mobility. No dragonmark, and no haste boost since there's no damage boost to pair it with.

    After taking everything available that we want from tempest, spend "temporary" points in deepwood stalker until level 12. At 12, reset deepwood stalker and take all the tier 5 tempest goodies immediately. Woohoo! Spend the remaining points back into deepwood stalker.
    Code:
    Tempest Trapmonkey (Dwarf)
    18/1/1 Ranger/Fighter/Rogue
    True Neutral Dwarf
    
    
    Level Order
    
    1. Rogue           6. Ranger         11. Ranger         16. Ranger
    2. Ranger          7. Ranger         12. Ranger         17. Ranger
    3. Ranger          8. Ranger         13. Ranger         18. Ranger
    4. Ranger          9. Ranger         14. Ranger         19. Ranger
    5. Fighter        10. Ranger         15. Ranger         20. Ranger
    
    
    Stats
                   28pt     32pt     34pt     36pt     Level Up
                   ----     ----     ----     ----     --------
    Strength        16       16       18       18       4: STR
    Dexterity       14       14       14       14       8: STR
    Constitution    16       18       16       16      12: STR
    Intelligence    14       14       14       14      16: STR
    Wisdom           8        8        8        8      20: STR
    Charisma         6        6        6        8      24: STR
                                                       28: STR
    
    Skills
             Rg Rn Rn Rn Fi Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn
              1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
             ------------------------------------------------------------
    Concent   2     2  2     1  2     2  2     2     2     2     2     2  23
    Disable   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Search    4  1  1  1     2  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Spot      4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    UMD       4  1  1  1     1  1  2  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Open Lo   4  1                          1     1     1     1     1     10
    Balance   4                                                            4
    Jump      4                                                            4
    Haggle    4                                                            4
    Swim      3                                                            3
    Tumble    1                                                            1
             ------------------------------------------------------------
             40  8  8  8  4  8  8  8  8  8  8  8  8  8  8  8  8  8  8  8
    
    
    Feats
    
     1        : Point Blank Shot
     2 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Undead
     3        : Precision
     5 Fighter: Dodge
     6        : Mobility
     7 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Construct
     9        : Improved Critical: Slashing
    12        : Improved Critical: Ranged
    12 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Giant
    15        : Empower Healing Spell
    17 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    18        : Quicken Spell
    21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
    24 Epic   : Two Weapon Defense
    26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    27 Epic   : Epic Reflexes
    28 Destiny: Doubleshot
    29 Destiny: Deific Warding OR Embodiment of Order OR Harbinger of Chaos
    30 Epic   : Epic Damage Reduction
    30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea OR Astral Plane
    
    
    Spells
    
    Ranger
    
    1. Resist Energy, Ram's Might, Jump, Merfolk's Blessing
    2. Cure Light Wounds, Protection from Energy, Barkskin
    3. Cure Moderate Wounds, Wild Instincts
    4. Freedom of Movement, Cure Serious Wounds
    Enhancements (80 AP) Tempest (42 AP)
    • Shield of Whirling Steel, Tempest, Graceful Death, Deflect Arrows, Whirlwind
      1. Item Defense I, Improved Reaction III, Whirling Blades
      2. Improved Parry III, Whirling Blades, Sprint Boost I
      3. Storm Dancer, Whirling Blades, Strength
      4. Storm Tempest, The Growing Storm III, Whirling Blades, Strength
      5. Dual Perfection, A Thousand Cuts III, Whirling Blades, Dance of Death III
    Deepwood Stalker (31 AP)
    • Far Shot, Sneak Attack, Exposing Strike, Advanced Sneak Attack, Mark of the Hunted
      1. Favored Defense II, Increased Empathy III, Versatile Empathy II
      2. Survivalist, Skill Boost II
      3. Survivalist, Thrill of the Hunt III, Favored Hunter III
      4. Survivalist, Killer III, Merciful Shot
    Dwarf (7 AP)
    • Dwarven Toughness, Dwarven Constitution, Dwarven Toughness II, Dwarven Constitution II, Dwarven Toughness III
    Leveling Guide
    1. Dwf0 Dwarven Toughness; (Bank 3 AP)
    2. Tem0 Shield of Whirling Steel; Tem1 Item Defense I; Tem1 Whirling Blades; Tem1 Improved Reaction I, II, III
    3. Tem2 Sprint Boost I; Tem2 Whirling Blades; Tem2 Improved Parry I
    4. Tem0 Tempest; Tem3 Strength; Tem2 Improved Parry II
    5. Tem3 Storm Dancer; Tem3 Whirling Blades
    6. Tem2 Improved Parry III; Tem4 The Growing Storm I, II, III
    7. Tem4 Storm Tempest; Tem4 Whirling Blades
    8. Tem4 Strength; DS0 Far Shot; DS1 Increased Empathy I
    9. DS1 Increased Empathy II, III; DS1 Versatile Empathy I, II
    10. DS2 Survivalist; DS2 Skill Boost I, II
    11. DS0 Sneak Attack; DS0 Exposing Strike; DS3 Survivalist
    12. Reset Deepwood Stalker
      • Deepwood Stalker: Far Shot, Sneak Attack
        1. Favored Defense II, Increased Empathy III
      • Tempest: Graceful Death
        1. (none)
        2. (none)
        3. (none)
        4. (none)
        5. Dual Perfection, A Thousand Cuts III, Whirling Blades, Dance of Death III
    13. DS2 Survivalist; DS2 Skill Boost I; DS0 Exposing Strike
    14. Tem0 Deflect Arrows; DS3 Survivalist; DS2 Skill Boost II
    15. DS1 Versatile Empathy I; DS3 Thrill of the Hunt I, II, III
    16. DS3 Favored Hunter I, II; DS0 Advanced Sneak Attack; DS3 Favored Hunter III
    17. DS4 Killer I, II, III; DS1 Versatile Empathy II
    18. DS4 Survivalist; DS4 Merciful Shot
    19. Dwf0 Dwarven Constitution; Dwf0 Dwarven Toughness II; (Bank 1 AP)
    20. Tem0 Whirlwind; DS0 Mark of the Hunted; Dwf0 Dwarven Constitution II; Dwf0 Dwarven Toughness III
    Destiny (24 AP) Fury of the Wild
    1. Tunnel Vision III, Primal Scream III
    2. Acute Instincts III, Damage Reduction III
    3. (none)
    4. Gird Against Demons I, Sense Weakness III, Overwhelming Force III
    5. Fury Eternal
    6. Unbridled Fury
    Twists of Fate (19 fate points)
    1. Symetric Strikes (Tier 4 Primal)
    2. Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
    3. Brace for Impact (Tier 1 Sentinel)


    Drow w/Rapier, Int-based Harper Agent

    Note: This variant requires access to both drow (easily unlocked via favor) and harper agent (probably a TP purchase, unless you can unlock via favor with an epic alt) but no other premium features are required.

    Take insightful reflexes immediately. Race up the harper tree to get int to attack and damage, grabbing know the angles along the way for some nice dps. Use rapiers instead of khopesh for flavor. Khopesh is actually better, so feel free to take khopesh @ 4 with the fighter bonus feat, dropping dodge altogether. No dragonmark, and no haste boost since there's no damage boost to pair it with.
    Code:
    Tempest Trapmonkey (Drow)
    18/1/1 Ranger/Fighter/Rogue
    True Neutral Drow
    
    
    Level Order
    
    1. Rogue           6. Ranger         11. Ranger         16. Ranger
    2. Ranger          7. Ranger         12. Ranger         17. Ranger
    3. Ranger          8. Ranger         13. Ranger         18. Ranger
    4. Fighter         9. Ranger         14. Ranger         19. Ranger
    5. Ranger         10. Ranger         15. Ranger         20. Ranger
    
    
    Stats
                   28pt     30pt     32pt     Level Up
                   ----     ----     ----     --------
    Strength        10       12       12       4: INT
    Dexterity       14       14       14       8: INT
    Constitution    12       12       13      12: INT
    Intelligence    20       20       20      16: INT
    Wisdom           8        8        8      20: INT
    Charisma        10       10       10      24: INT
                                              28: INT
    
    Skills
             Rg Rn Rn Fi Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn
              1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
             ------------------------------------------------------------
    Concent   2  2  2     1  2  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Heal      2                    2  3  3  3  1  1  1  1  2     2     2  23
    Disable   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Open Lo   4  1  1     1  1  2  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Search    4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Spot      4  1  1     2  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    UMD       4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Haggle    4                                1  1  1  1  1  2  1  2  1  15
    Jump      4  1  1  1  1  1     1                                      10
    Bluff     4                                                            4
    Diplo     4                                                            4
    Balance   4                                                            4
    Swim      3                                                            3
    Tumble    1                                                            1
             ------------------------------------------------------------
             52 11 11  7 11 11 11 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 13 13 13 13 13
    
    
    Feats
    
     1        : Insightful Reflexes
     2 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Undead
     3        : Precision
     4 Fighter: Dodge
     6        : Point Blank Shot
     7 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Construct
     9        : Improved Critical: Slashing
    12        : Improved Critical: Ranged
    12 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Giant
    15        : Empower Healing Spell
    17 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    18        : Quicken Spell
    21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
    24 Epic   : Two Weapon Defense
    26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    27 Epic   : Epic Reflexes
    28 Destiny: Doubleshot
    29 Destiny: Deific Warding OR Embodiment of Order OR Harbinger of Chaos
    30 Epic   : Epic Damage Reduction
    30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea OR Astral Plane
    
    
    Spells
    
    Ranger
    
    1. Jump, Ram's Might, Resist Energy, Merfolk's Blessing
    2. Cure Light Wounds, Protection from Energy, Barkskin
    3. Cure Moderate Wounds, Wild Instincts
    4. Freedom of Movement, Cure Serious Wounds
    Enhancements (80 AP) Tempest (42 AP)
    • Shield of Whirling Steel, Tempest, Graceful Death, Deflect Arrows, Whirlwind
      1. Improved Reaction III, Improved Defense III, Whirling Blades
      2. Improved Parry III, Whirling Blades, Sprint Boost III
      3. Storm Dancer, Whirling Blades
      4. Storm Tempest, The Growing Storm III, Whirling Blades
      5. Dual Perfection, A Thousand Cuts III, Whirling Blades, Dance of Death III
    Deepwood Stalker (26 AP)
    • Far Shot, Sneak Attack, Exposing Strike, Advanced Sneak Attack
      1. Increased Empathy III, Versatile Empathy II
      2. Survivalist, Skill Boost II
      3. Survivalist, Thrill of the Hunt III, Favored Hunter III
      4. Survivalist, Killer III
    Harper Agent (12 AP)
    • Agent of Good I
      1. Harper Enchantment, Strategic Combat, Awareness II
      2. Know the Angles III
      3. Strategic Combat
    Leveling Guide
    1. Hrp0 Agent of Good I; Hrp1 Strategic Combat; Hrp1 Awareness I
    2. Hrp1 Harper Enchantment; Hrp2 Know the Angles I, II
    3. Hrp2 Know the Angles III; Hrp1 Awareness II; Hrp3 Strategic Combat
    4. Tem0 Shield of Whirling Steel; Tem1 Improved Reaction I, II, III
    5. Tem1 Improved Defense I; Tem0 Tempest; Tem2 Sprint Boost I; Tem2 Improved Parry I
    6. Tem1 Whirling Blades; Tem2 Whirling Blades
    7. Tem3 Storm Dancer; Tem3 Whirling Blades
    8. Tem2 Improved Parry II, III; Tem2 Sprint Boost II, III
    9. Tem4 Storm Tempest; Tem4 Whirling Blades
    10. Tem4 The Growing Storm I, II, III; Tem0 Graceful Death
    11. Tem1 Improved Defense II, III; (Bank 2 AP)
    12. Tem5 Dance of Death I, II, III; Tem5 A Thousand Cuts I, II, III
    13. Tem5 Dual Perfection; Tem5 Whirling Blades
    14. Tem0 Deflect Arrows; DS0 Far Shot; DS1 Increased Empathy I, II
    15. DS1 Versatile Empathy I, II; DS2 Survivalist
    16. DS2 Skill Boost I, II; DS0 Sneak Attack; DS0 Exposing Strike
    17. DS3 Survivalist; DS3 Thrill of the Hunt I, II
    18. DS3 Thrill of the Hunt III; DS3 Favored Hunter I, II, III
    19. DS1 Increased Empathy III; DS0 Advanced Sneak Attack; DS4 Survivalist
    20. Tem0 Whirlwind; DS4 Killer I, II, III
    Destiny (24 AP) Fury of the Wild
    1. Tunnel Vision III, Primal Scream III
    2. Acute Instincts III, Damage Reduction III
    3. (none)
    4. Gird Against Demons I, Sense Weakness III, Overwhelming Force III
    5. Fury Eternal
    6. Unbridled Fury
    Twists of Fate (19 fate points)
    1. Symetric Strikes (Tier 4 Primal)
    2. Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
    3. Brace for Impact (Tier 1 Sentinel)

  5. #5
    Community Member
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    975

    Default

    Excellent.

    Dragonmarks aside, what about the proficiency thing for non-humans? I for example have some of the dwarf variant, is khopesh still better than D-axe or heavy pick even if I take the racial enhancements?



    (Hm, what were the Kundarak SLAs again, Neutralize Poison and Glyphs of Warding?)
    No longer completely f2p as of November 2014. Father of 3 more DDO players so far (I do have more children than that).
    Away from the game most of 2015.

  6. #6

    Default

    Oh, good call. Yeah, if you use non-human I'd go with the racial weapon of choice. (d.axe, scimiies or rapiers) I'll add a note.

  7. #7
    Hatchery Hero BOgre's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Middlonowhere, Alberta, Canada
    Posts
    3,075

    Default

    1) I think you probably don't need any investment in Jump. As is by 25 you're sitting at 42 or so, so at the very least those 4 points could go to Open Lock. I keep the spell loaded simply because there are non Jumpers in my static group.

    2) I like to solo in Legendary Dred, and as such I need some Improved Sunder. I'd pick that over Quicken. In the same vein, it seems silly to invest so strongly into Concentration and then also take Quicken. Me, I'd drop the Concentration as well as the Quicken, mainly because 99% of a Ranger TT's spells are out of combat. If I'm swarmed and can't get off a heal, I'll jump away and Heal on the fly. But at the very least, EITHER invest in Quicken OR Concentration, right? Again, more points to Open Lock.

    3) I haven't run enough yet to know if the new Disable/Open DCs in epic content are even doable by a Ranger TT, or any shallow splashed rog/arti. I'm holding off on the LR+20 until I see for myself whether or not remaining a trapmonkey is viable. It seems to me that if Turb really did adjust trap/lock DCs, then it may be time to abandon that particular aspect of the TT's Jack-of-all-trade-edness, in favor of focusing on DPS/Heal. I'd love to still be able to unlock Shroud puzzles at the very least, so I stocked up on Cove Greater Dowsing Rods, but haven't tested them in the field yet.

  8. #8

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BOgre View Post
    1) I think you probably don't need any investment in Jump. As is by 25 you're sitting at 42 or so, so at the very least those 4 points could go to Open Lock. I keep the spell loaded simply because there are non Jumpers in my static group.
    It's not possible to put those 4 points from jump into open lock; those are spent on level 1, and on level 1 both jump & OL get the full four points.

    2) I like to solo in Legendary Dred, and as such I need some Improved Sunder. I'd pick that over Quicken. In the same vein, it seems silly to invest so strongly into Concentration and then also take Quicken. Me, I'd drop the Concentration as well as the Quicken, mainly because 99% of a Ranger TT's spells are out of combat. If I'm swarmed and can't get off a heal, I'll jump away and Heal on the fly. But at the very least, EITHER invest in Quicken OR Concentration, right? Again, more points to Open Lock.
    The only spells to cast are long duration buffs and heals, so the bulk of spellcasting will be in-combat. Concentration is for EH and under, quicken is for if you want to play EE. Concentration is also for scroll healing if you need to conserve mana for whatever reason.

    3) I haven't run enough yet to know if the new Disable/Open DCs in epic content are even doable by a Ranger TT, or any shallow splashed rog/arti. I'm holding off on the LR+20 until I see for myself whether or not remaining a trapmonkey is viable. It seems to me that if Turb really did adjust trap/lock DCs, then it may be time to abandon that particular aspect of the TT's Jack-of-all-trade-edness, in favor of focusing on DPS/Heal. I'd love to still be able to unlock Shroud puzzles at the very least, so I stocked up on Cove Greater Dowsing Rods, but haven't tested them in the field yet.
    I would be very surprised if this build couldn't handle traps on heroic elite for bravery. It starts with 14 int, takes full ranks and even tosses in another several points from enhancements. (Enhancement totals are +3 search & spot, +5 disable & OL.)

    Note that OL is largely a dump skill. My TT on live before the pass wasn't able to open the MotU locks of note anyway -- DC of 80 IIRC -- so why bother chasing an unattainable goal, y'know? Instead, just go for a reasonable OL so you can hit most of them while leveling.

  9. #9
    Hatchery Hero BOgre's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Middlonowhere, Alberta, Canada
    Posts
    3,075

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by EllisDee37 View Post
    It's not possible to put those 4 points from jump into open lock; those are spent on level 1, and on level 1 both jump & OL get the full four points.

    The only spells to cast are long duration buffs and heals, so the bulk of spellcasting will be in-combat. Concentration is for EH and under, quicken is for if you want to play EE. Concentration is also for scroll healing if you need to conserve mana for whatever reason.

    I would be very surprised if this build couldn't handle traps on heroic elite for bravery. It starts with 14 int, takes full ranks and even tosses in another several points from enhancements. (Enhancement totals are +3 search & spot, +5 disable & OL.)

    Note that OL is largely a dump skill. My TT on live before the pass wasn't able to open the MotU locks of note anyway -- DC of 80 IIRC -- so why bother chasing an unattainable goal, y'know? Instead, just go for a reasonable OL so you can hit most of them while leveling.
    My mistake, I'm looking at it from the perspective of my L25, instead of new player. Yes, in Heroic content he should be just fine.
    As to casting in combat, you're talking about just heals right? And there I rely on jump and terrain to give me the coupla seconds I need, but I can see as a new player having uninterruptable heals as a desirable.

    Anyways, nice work on the build.

  10. #10
    Community Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    343

    Default

    have been eagerly awaiting this build since you mentioned that you were working on one.
    i will be doing a dwarf version

    many thanks to you and others, for sharing your knowledge
    if life gives you lemons, make lemonade.
    if life gives you pickles, well you're screwed. because pickleade sucks.

  11. #11
    The Hatchery karl_k0ch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    4,596

    Default

    Did you consider taking the Dodge feat for some additional Damage Mitigation (iirc, there are some enhancements in the Tempest Tree which further enhance this)?

    Post-Update, some Sschindlyryn Lock and Trap DCs were at roughly 80 on EH.
    Toons on Orien: Meinir // Flodur // Twiddler // Thorkar // Impetor // Juliacantor // Minor all Soko Irrlicht
    Quote Originally Posted by Vargouille View Post
    We may or may not intentionally insert in red herrings, purple mackerels, or horses of different colors. Void where prohibited. Not available in all planes of existence.

  12. #12
    Community Member MartinusWyllt's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    2,358

    Default

    I wonder if more AA and less tempest could result in more utility for a new player?

    Can access paralyzing/smiting/banishing through enhancements that way as those take some time to acquire if you're actually new.

    I just tested the smiting/metalline on a 1st life elf ranger/rogue/arti (11/3/2) in the manufactury last night and was relatively pleased. I feel like a smiting repeater would have had been faster, but could still effectively get through on manyshot and kiting.

  13. #13
    Community Member SiliconShadow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    563

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by EllisDee37 View Post
    I tried to come up with a 15/3/2 ranger/rogue/fighter variant but I kept running into issues. Either skills took a major hit, or the self-healing and evasion was backloaded too late in the heroic levels. In the end, 18/1/1 seemed like the best compromise. The end result certainly isn't hurting for either feats or sneak attack damage.
    I found that 12 Ranger / 6 Rogue / 2 Fighter gave the most skill points and feats and also actually the most dps.

    First life sitting at a 47 DD at 25 naked and more importantly self buffed a 41 UMD.

    The new update has dropped this unless you take mechanic but purely taking tempest/kensai/human the dps is fantastic (Playing with 12 Ranger / 6 Kensai / 2 Druid to go even more dps)

    Remember you can dump dexterity, reflex can be heroism pots early on. Fighter isn't needed in this setup until later on for epic feats either so you can go 1 rogue, 12 ranger, 5 rogue, 2 fighter.

    Taking Cleave, PA, Great Cleave, ICS unlocking overwhelming critical to stack with the primal epic destiny or if you are trash mob mostly dreadnought.

    Even with basic gear this build destroys everything and has high survivability (29 dodge with twists and dun robar ring) and a max dodge cap of 32 which gets filled by the primal buff when it activates.

    Having dropped mechanic I sit at a 51 DD with +17 item only unbuffed and no int item giving me a possible:
    LEVEL 25 not 28! (You can go +3 more base + 3 more from stats and +8 more from items at 28)
    +7 tools
    +4 GH
    +1 Ship Buffs
    +4 from intelligence item swap outs
    Totalling 66 Add in a human skill boost you can disable any trap I know in the game on a 1, most are only a 60 DC anyway on EE that I have come across.
    "(Party): [Party] Mislabeled: you were killed by Qrazydirections"

  14. #14
    Community Member Bolo_Grubb's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    1,890

    Default

    the core enhancement of Graceful Death (in the tempest tree) uses Dex for damage when using light weapons.

    mmm

    If I take finesse, then the "to hit" and damage are both Dex based. My current 18/1/1 Ranger/fighter/rogue uses just short swords and rapiers. I might be willing to change the level splits to increase DPS and utility.

    Wonder how much I could lower str?
    Kill'em all and let their favorite deity sort'em out
    Quote from a shroud run "I am an idiot, not a newb"

  15. #15

    Default

    A dex-based ranger is a cool build concept that should be plenty viable with the enhancement pass. It's different enough to merit its own thread, I think.

  16. #16
    Community Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    13

    Default

    Seriously new here...would I want to be using light armor for the most part for this build?

  17. #17
    Build Constructionist unbongwah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    14,031

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by randomcleric View Post
    Seriously new here...would I want to be using light armor for the most part for this build?
    Light armor (or robes) is a requirement for Evasion to work; also rog & rgr only get lt armor prof. Ftr provides med & hvy armor prof, though, and this build doesn't get Evasion until lvl 11 (rgr 9 / rog 1 / ftr 1). So, from lvls 2-10, you can wear any armor you want; once you have Evasion, though, you should switch full-time to lt armor.

  18. #18
    Community Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    13

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Light armor (or robes) is a requirement for Evasion to work; also rog & rgr only get lt armor prof. Ftr provides med & hvy armor prof, though, and this build doesn't get Evasion until lvl 11 (rgr 9 / rog 1 / ftr 1). So, from lvls 2-10, you can wear any armor you want; once you have Evasion, though, you should switch full-time to lt armor.
    thanks for the quick reply

  19. #19
    Community Member gorocz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    11

    Default

    Hi, I'm playing multiclassed Tempest (2nd life, level 8 atm) as well and since I plan to TR as soon as possible (buying the heart for Epic Tokens, so around lvl 22), I was wondering if it wouldn't be better to pick a different multiclass than the Fighter (with the free +20 LR), since the extra fighter feat is no longer "needed" for Tempest and would only be useful to me to be able to have both Haste and Sprint boosts. And so I went through the classes to find an interesting combo and two of them came up (keep in mind it's mostly for heroic levels and soloing thereof):

    Barbarian - makes up for the Sprint Boost with Fast Movement and also if you put a couple of points into FrB enhancements, you can Rage to get Sprint Boost in addition to the Fast Movement (as well as other bonuses), on the other hand it has the downside of not being able to cast or search/disable when raged and you are fatigued afterwards, which would require you to chug Lesser Resto pots or something...

    Wizard - yes, wizard - you get a load of Spell Points (increased even more by INT modifier, which is nice), as well as Echoes of Power (from Magical Training) and a wizard bonus feat, which could be the Quicken (allowing you to not take concentration) or Mental Toughness (increasing your spell point pool even more). You also get +2 will save, which isn't something to frown upon, downside being a bit of a hinderance in your BAB progression, but since you really want to take this level only after you get CLW (i.e. level 10), it doesn't hinder getting Improved Critical...

    Thoughts?
    Last edited by gorocz; 08-25-2013 at 07:55 AM. Reason: typo
    Orien - Gorrea - Second Life Tempest Ranger

  20. #20
    Community Member AbyssalMage's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    1,641

    Default

    Thanks, not looking forward to updating my Tempest but this gives me a starting place. Dropping the Fighter and Rogue for pure ranger is so tempting lol.

Page 1 of 17 1234511 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

This form's session has expired. You need to reload the page.

Reload