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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrantico View Post
    So now that Tempest Haste Boost and Human Damage Boost are on the same cooldown, any thoughts on rearranging the enhancements? I took one point into Human Skills Boost and am dorking around with Kensai Focus right now, but I'm not terribly thrilled with how it feels. (Then... I'm only level 11 right now, and pretty terrible at this theorycrafting thing to boot.)
    Not really. Mainly it lets you skip Extra Action Boost, freeing up a twist slot. I'd probably replace it with +6 reflex saves from magister or +6 trap skills from shadowdancer. (Or +6 tactics from LD if you went with dire charge.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Folund View Post
    Hello i'm interessed by this build but i would like to know if i can play it with an arbalest repeater, i dont really like this attack malus :/
    I'm not entirely sure I follow. This is a melee build, so if you're asking if it works with repeaters, no, not really.

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    Default TWF and Dex

    Sorry to comment on an old thread but I have what is probably a very newb question. The build calls for "racing" to TWF by level 3. TWF needs DEX 15 and the build only has DEX 14. So I'm very confused here!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyToo66 View Post
    Sorry to comment on an old thread but I have what is probably a very newb question. The build calls for "racing" to TWF by level 3. TWF needs DEX 15 and the build only has DEX 14. So I'm very confused here!?
    Ranger get's TWF feat at level 2 even if the prerequisite is not met.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dnarth View Post
    Ranger get's TWF feat at level 2 even if there is prerequisite is not met.
    Thank you

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    Sorry for the post res, but this newb isn't seeing how to get weapon finesse on the elf build? Or at least the game is not showing dex as attack and damage mod even after taking improved weapon finesse.

    EDIT: NM, I found it - Tempest core ability DUH!
    Last edited by Harolin; 03-17-2018 at 12:26 PM.

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    Hi there another noon question I’m just curious if this is still a viable build? Ty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelroos76 View Post
    Hi there another noon question I’m just curious if this is still a viable build? Ty
    Yep. There haven't been any significant changes to ranger since I last updated the build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelroos76 View Post
    Hi there another noon question I’m just curious if this is still a viable build? Ty
    If you define 'viable' in terms of the mechanics working as intended, it's still viable.

    It's probably not ideal though - due to power creep and additional options. Just working off the basic notion of the build - trapping on a TWF Ranger build - you could probably get away with as few as 6 levels of Ranger if you're using Daggers. This wouldn't have been possible when the build was originally constructed (without losing some important features).

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    Here's a simple update designed to use the new Knight's Training feat.
    Code:
    Tempest Squire (F2P)
    18/1/1 Ranger/Barbarian/Rogue
    True Neutral Human
    
    
    Level Order
    
    1. Rogue           6. Ranger         11. Ranger         16. Ranger
    2. Ranger          7. Ranger         12. Ranger         17. Ranger
    3. Ranger          8. Barbarian      13. Ranger         18. Ranger
    4. Ranger          9. Ranger         14. Ranger         19. Ranger
    5. Ranger         10. Ranger         15. Ranger         20. Ranger
    
    
    Stats
                   28pt     32pt     Level Up
                   ----     ----     --------
    Strength        16       16       4: STR
    Dexterity       14       14       8: STR
    Constitution    14       16      12: STR
    Intelligence    14       14      16: STR
    Wisdom           8        8      20: STR
    Charisma         8        8      24: STR
                                     28: STR
    
    Skills
             Rg Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Bn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn
              1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
             ------------------------------------------------------------
    Disable   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Open Lo   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Search    4  1  1  1  1  1  1     2  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Spot      4  1  1  1  1  1  1     1  2  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    UMD       4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Heal      2  1  1  1  1  1  1           1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  18
    Jump      4                    1                                       5
    Balance   4                                                            4
    Hide      4                                                            4
    Move Si   4                                                            4
    Tumble    4                                                            4
             ------------------------------------------------------------
             44  9  9  9  9  9  9  7  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9
    
    
    Feats
    
     1        : Dodge
     1 Human  : Least Dragonmark: Passage
     3        : Precision
     6        : Knight's Training
     9        : Improved Critical: Slashing OR Bludgeoning
    12        : Quicken Spell
    15        : Mobility
    18        : Empower Healing Spell OR Exotic Weapon: Khopesh
    21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
    24 Epic   : Two Weapon Defense OR Exotic Weapon: Khopesh
    26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    27 Epic   : Epic Damage Reduction
    28 Destiny: First Blood OR Elusive Target
    29 Destiny: Dire Charge OR Embodiment of Law OR Deific Warding
    30 Epic   : Watchful Eye OR Exotic Weapon: Khopesh
    30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea
    
     2 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Undead
     6 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Construct
    12 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    17 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Elemental
    
    
    Enhancements (80 AP)
    
    Tempest (42 AP)
    
    • Shield of Whirling Steel, Tempest, Graceful Death, Deflect Arrows, Whirlwind
      1. Improved Reaction III, Whirling Blades
      2. Improved Parry III, Improved Dodge III, Whirling Blades
      3. Storm Dancer, Improved Mobility III, Whirling Blades
      4. Storm Tempest, The Growing Storm III, Whirling Blades
      5. Dual Perfection, Cuts: A Thousand Cuts III, Whirling Blades, Dance of Death III
    Deepwood Stalker (31 AP)
    • Far Shot, Sneak Attack, Exposing Strike, Advanced Sneak Attack, Mark of the Hunted
      1. Stealthy III, Increased Empathy III
      2. Survivalist, Melee/Range Power Boost III
      3. Survivalist, Thrill of the Hunt III, Favored Hunter III
      4. Survivalist, Killer III, Merciful Shot
    Human (7 AP)
    • Damage Boost
      1. Dragonmark Focus: Orien II, Improved Recovery
      2. Lesser Dragonmark: Dimension Door
    Destiny (24 AP) Legendary Dreadnought
    1. Legendary Tactics III, Extra Action Boost III, Strength
    2. Strength
    3. Critical Damage III, Haste Boost III
    4. (none)
    5. Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
    6. Master's Blitz, Headman's Chop
    Twists of Fate (26 fate points)
    1. Balanced Attacks (Tier 3 Primal)
    2. Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer)
    3. Lithe (Tier 2 Shadowdancer)
    4. Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
    Knight's Training buffs a bunch of different weapon types which have previously been considered subpar vs khopesh:
    These weapons receive one of the following morale bonuses in your hands.

    Long Sword critical multiplier is increased by 1.
    Battle Axe's critical threat range is increased by 1. Increased by 2 if you have Improved Critical: Slashing.
    Heavy Maces, Morningstars & War Hammers critical threat range is increased by 1.
    For the F2P newbie, the upside here is that weapon gearing becomes easier when you have a range of options rather than being confined to one (i.e., khopesh). E.g., anyone can farm ARoaSP at level 9 for a pair of Nightforge Blades or NF Hammers which become 15-20/x3 and 18-20/x4 respectively with Knights Training + relevant Improved Crit feat. And for the more veteran player, it improves various named weapons which otherwise had mediocre critical threat ranges. You could even take both Improved Critical feats and khopesh proficiency if you really wanted to max out your weapon versatility. Just remember you have to choose between Headman's Chop or Pulverizer in LD; you can't take both and still have Blitz.

    BTW the Concentration skill also just got a major buff so it might actually be useful now: "The DC check now only uses 1/10th of the incoming damage to increase its DC." However this build is skill-point-constrained so I didn't take Concentration, putting leftover pts into Heal instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Here's a simple update designed to use the new Knight's Training feat.
    Code:
    Tempest Squire (F2P)
    18/1/1 Ranger/Barbarian/Rogue
    True Neutral Human
    
    
    Level Order
    
    1. Rogue           6. Ranger         11. Ranger         16. Ranger
    2. Ranger          7. Ranger         12. Ranger         17. Ranger
    3. Ranger          8. Barbarian      13. Ranger         18. Ranger
    4. Ranger          9. Ranger         14. Ranger         19. Ranger
    5. Ranger         10. Ranger         15. Ranger         20. Ranger
    
    
    Stats
                   28pt     32pt     Level Up
                   ----     ----     --------
    Strength        16       16       4: STR
    Dexterity       14       14       8: STR
    Constitution    14       16      12: STR
    Intelligence    14       14      16: STR
    Wisdom           8        8      20: STR
    Charisma         8        8      24: STR
                                     28: STR
    
    Skills
             Rg Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Bn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn
              1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
             ------------------------------------------------------------
    Disable   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Open Lo   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Search    4  1  1  1  1  1  1     2  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Spot      4  1  1  1  1  1  1     1  2  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    UMD       4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Heal      2  1  1  1  1  1  1           1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  18
    Jump      4                    1                                       5
    Balance   4                                                            4
    Hide      4                                                            4
    Move Si   4                                                            4
    Tumble    4                                                            4
             ------------------------------------------------------------
             44  9  9  9  9  9  9  7  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9  9
    
    
    Feats
    
     1        : Dodge
     1 Human  : Least Dragonmark: Passage
     3        : Precision
     6        : Knight's Training
     9        : Improved Critical: Slashing OR Bludgeoning
    12        : Quicken Spell
    15        : Mobility
    18        : Empower Healing Spell OR Exotic Weapon: Khopesh
    21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
    24 Epic   : Two Weapon Defense OR Exotic Weapon: Khopesh
    26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    27 Epic   : Epic Damage Reduction
    28 Destiny: First Blood OR Elusive Target
    29 Destiny: Dire Charge OR Embodiment of Law OR Deific Warding
    30 Epic   : Watchful Eye OR Exotic Weapon: Khopesh
    30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea
    
     2 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Undead
     6 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Construct
    12 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    17 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Elemental
    
    
    Enhancements (80 AP)
    
    Tempest (42 AP)
    
    • Shield of Whirling Steel, Tempest, Graceful Death, Deflect Arrows, Whirlwind
      1. Improved Reaction III, Whirling Blades
      2. Improved Parry III, Improved Dodge III, Whirling Blades
      3. Storm Dancer, Improved Mobility III, Whirling Blades
      4. Storm Tempest, The Growing Storm III, Whirling Blades
      5. Dual Perfection, Cuts: A Thousand Cuts III, Whirling Blades, Dance of Death III
    Deepwood Stalker (31 AP)
    • Far Shot, Sneak Attack, Exposing Strike, Advanced Sneak Attack, Mark of the Hunted
      1. Stealthy III, Increased Empathy III
      2. Survivalist, Melee/Range Power Boost III
      3. Survivalist, Thrill of the Hunt III, Favored Hunter III
      4. Survivalist, Killer III, Merciful Shot
    Human (7 AP)
    • Damage Boost
      1. Dragonmark Focus: Orien II, Improved Recovery
      2. Lesser Dragonmark: Dimension Door
    Destiny (24 AP) Legendary Dreadnought
    1. Legendary Tactics III, Extra Action Boost III, Strength
    2. Strength
    3. Critical Damage III, Haste Boost III
    4. (none)
    5. Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
    6. Master's Blitz, Headman's Chop
    Twists of Fate (26 fate points)
    1. Balanced Attacks (Tier 3 Primal)
    2. Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer)
    3. Lithe (Tier 2 Shadowdancer)
    4. Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
    Knight's Training buffs a bunch of different weapon types which have previously been considered subpar vs khopesh:

    For the F2P newbie, the upside here is that weapon gearing becomes easier when you have a range of options rather than being confined to one (i.e., khopesh). E.g., anyone can farm ARoaSP at level 9 for a pair of Nightforge Blades or NF Hammers which become 15-20/x3 and 18-20/x4 respectively with Knights Training + relevant Improved Crit feat. And for the more veteran player, it improves various named weapons which otherwise had mediocre critical threat ranges. You could even take both Improved Critical feats and khopesh proficiency if you really wanted to max out your weapon versatility. Just remember you have to choose between Headman's Chop or Pulverizer in LD; you can't take both and still have Blitz.

    BTW the Concentration skill also just got a major buff so it might actually be useful now: "The DC check now only uses 1/10th of the incoming damage to increase its DC." However this build is skill-point-constrained so I didn't take Concentration, putting leftover pts into Heal instead.

    Hi,

    I've followed your paladin guide on a different toon and now I'm currently trying this for another toon. New player still looking for the class I would like to take to 30.

    The build started is really great with damage and trapping, but currently at level 8 I've been dying a lot. Got myself a pair of Nightforge blades which is really good damage, but since I can't take mobility enhancement, I feel like I'm taking a lot of damage and maybe crits here and there. Not sure on how to negate this so I can take the toon to 20. Maybe I should take the quests on normal difficulty? But the level up is really slow in that pace lol.

    Hoping for some advice. And thanks a lot for your builds!

    EDIT: And yeah, the build is very prone to CC. Hate those casters a lot now.
    Last edited by Gvcddo; 08-14-2019 at 09:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gvcddo View Post
    I feel like I'm taking a lot of damage and maybe crits here and there. Not sure on how to negate this so I can take the toon to 20. Maybe I should take the quests on normal difficulty? But the level up is really slow in that pace lol.

    Hoping for some advice. And thanks a lot for your builds!

    EDIT: And yeah, the build is very prone to CC. Hate those casters a lot now.
    Get a fortification item which will stops those crits, you can either look for lootgen, get somebody to craft it for you (I think) or get the augment and drop it in to an item (I recommend the cloak from Tempest Spine).

    As for casters always go after them first ignore everything else! Those suckers really hurt in the low levels, also go to the Twelve and and buy resist 20 pots for all elemental types they really help (if you have access to ship buffs then you might be ok without these).

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoner81 View Post
    Get a fortification item which will stops those crits, you can either look for lootgen, get somebody to craft it for you (I think) or get the augment and drop it in to an item (I recommend the cloak from Tempest Spine).

    As for casters always go after them first ignore everything else! Those suckers really hurt in the low levels, also go to the Twelve and and buy resist 20 pots for all elemental types they really help (if you have access to ship buffs then you might be ok without these).

    Hope this helps.

    Stoner81.
    Okay, just got myself a Nightforge Gorget for the fortification for now. Thank you for the advise! Guess I'll need to look for better gears and just do normal/hard quests for now.

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    What server do you play on? If you are on Cannith I might be able to help you out some more with a few things.

    Stoner81.

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    I'm actually on Cannith, ign is Snowdon

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