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    Default Rings....now garbage

    New update, new stuff, new quests...and new problems.

    The old no-min-level-rings that you could get out of Lord of Eyes (up to a possible) +6 stat....are now min level 11?

    Who came up with this "brilliant" idea? I've got a 7th level TR (12th life....) in-process-completionist that is still wearing a CON and STR ring so I'm not taking them off until I get my better gear. But WHY would you do this? This was WAI for years. Never saw this on the Known Issues log. And now it gets changed?

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    Default Carrots and xpacs

    Well, with the current state of the game, I don't plan on TRing again. I just gained at least one whole page probably 1.5 page getting rid of all those wonderful no min lvl rings from the chain.

    One could argue, that carrots are commonly placed throughout the game to motivate people to buy xpacks and the like. Then, once that carrot is not useful, it is pulled (as in when they stopped dropping them). Then, at a later date, old gear is proactively changed (this has been done many many times throughout the game's history for "balancing" and any other excuse.

    There are better low level twink methods than those rings at the moment anyway, they are a rounding error in overpowered uberness.

    The rule in DDO is: Enjoy it while you have it and it works well, because it probably will not work forever and even if it does, it will eventually be junk.

    Thanks for clearing up my inventory space Turbine! I could never bring myself to delete those rings!!!

    My only complaint Turbine, is that you spent time proactively messing with rings that effected a substantially small part of the player base in a negative way (from the player's perspective). You could of spent that time actually fixing bugs that the player base as a whole cares about and is consequentially effected by. I'm not going to get into "the list" as we all know where it is on these forums.



    Quote Originally Posted by Arcanghakhyorsarthel View Post
    New update, new stuff, new quests...and new problems.

    The old no-min-level-rings that you could get out of Lord of Eyes (up to a possible) +6 stat....are now min level 11?

    Who came up with this "brilliant" idea? I've got a 7th level TR (12th life....) in-process-completionist that is still wearing a CON and STR ring so I'm not taking them off until I get my better gear. But WHY would you do this? This was WAI for years. Never saw this on the Known Issues log. And now it gets changed?

    C'mon...fix something before you "fix" something like this.
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    *sigh* Turbine have stated they didn't change these rings specifically.
    In fact, that's WHY they've been changed - because Turbine left them alone. However, they changed the formula for ML, meaning all non-named have a pre-set ML. These rings were not named, sadly enough, thus they were changed. I'm sure you'll live without +6 stat rings at level 1.

    Even a noob like me manages without them, just fine.

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    Default ML Calculation changed

    Quote Originally Posted by Soulfurnace View Post
    *sigh* Turbine have stated they didn't change these rings specifically.
    In fact, that's WHY they've been changed - because Turbine left them alone. However, they changed the formula for ML, meaning all non-named have a pre-set ML. These rings were not named, sadly enough, thus they were changed. I'm sure you'll live without +6 stat rings at level 1.

    Even a noob like me manages without them, just fine.
    The change is slightly different. For non-named items, their ML used to be pre-set by the developers. That caused "problems" with some items being much higher ML then their bonuses should have been, and others were much lower than they should have been.

    Now they use the enhancement number (think that is what is called) of the item to determin minimum level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greantun View Post
    Now they use the enhancement number (think that is what is called) of the item to determin minimum level.
    That's what I meant - different formula, all non-named were affected. I just didn't mention what the change in ML was caused by. /shrug

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcanghakhyorsarthel View Post
    Who came up with this "brilliant" idea?
    Feather_of_Sun came up with that brilliant idea.
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    I usually wear my Chrono set until level 11 when I can get greensteel out of the bank... Levels 1-11 are so easy for us vets, that I don't see any reason to up my gear until then.

    You really think that losing a +6 CON and +6 STR ring is going to make any difference at all to your gameplay at those levels?
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    +6 Str is ok, but +6 Con was garbage anyway. Any +6 con item b4 the usual min. level for a +6 con item is a waste of a slot imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcanghakhyorsarthel View Post
    New update, new stuff, new quests...and new problems.

    The old no-min-level-rings that you could get out of Lord of Eyes (up to a possible) +6 stat....are now min level 11?

    Who came up with this "brilliant" idea? I've got a 7th level TR (12th life....) in-process-completionist that is still wearing a CON and STR ring so I'm not taking them off until I get my better gear. But WHY would you do this? This was WAI for years. Never saw this on the Known Issues log. And now it gets changed?

    C'mon...fix something before you "fix" something like this.
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    [*]The bugged rings from a few content packs that had no minimum level at all are finally fixed.

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    Also those rings were never WAI. They were always bugged. Devs told us that many times, but for a long time agreed to leave them, with the warning that sometime in the future they will likely get corrected. Well that time just happened.
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    i had one and enjoyed it while i could. i knew it was powerful and one day i would lose them. i cant complain they changed it because they saw how broken they were and fixed it already. so i didnt complain that they even updated old ones.

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    Default Agree, this is beyond a joke

    I agree 100% here, I even started a thread up on it too.
    Live without +6 stats? yeah right, maybe for you vets that dont have a job and play 25hrs a day, takes me 6 months to lvl a toon as I only play 2-3 hours a day and in the worst time zone. I dont solo. (why play an MMO if your going to solo) Also my masterful Craftmanship has been nurfed, and instad of lvl 12 gear -2 lvls of masterful i should wear my gear at lvl 10, not 11. and let me tell you on a wizzy at lvl 1 +6 int is nice. same as greater false life. also my no min lvl clicky items like jump, detect secret doors, aid, restoration have all been deleted with string table errors.
    I am sorry but I am going to winge here, spent alot of time grinding for gear, and money for TP, thats my time and effort in this game just for them to delete them.
    but, when I say I accidently deleted my spider cult mask and asked if they could assist me they said they cant do nothing about it. its gone. well it seems like a rule for me and a rule for them.
    so I am happy to say my subscription will be coming to an end in september and I am on the hunt for a new MMORPG.

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    Default icy burst ritual also has changed min lvl on items

    I have noticed the early version of icy burst ritual from Turbine event has now changed minimum lvl on items also, so all the work and farming to add kits to gear have been lost. I dont get a choice of whether i want me weapon in origianl form, suddenly weapon cant be used for 4-6 more levels.

    garbage...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    You really think that losing a +6 CON and +6 STR ring is going to make any difference at all to your gameplay at those levels?
    don't know about you, but my striding ring will be sorely missed.

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    I know nothing about those rings. Until they got changed with the update, I didn't know they existed. I agree it does suck for those that have them. What I find interesting is the number of people in game that complain about those rings being changed, but then turn right around and complain about the new loot providing stat bonuses at levels they think are too early.

    It sucks, but it makes sense. Way more sense than adding vorpal to all weapon types. That is a stupid intentional change.

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