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    Default Monk RIP

    Good job Turbine ignoring everyone's complaints on lamania about taking people's monks, wiping your butt with them and giving us back the result. We now have a zillion useless ways to spend our ki, none of which we want to do. And unless you max out the useless mystic tree (that had I wanted to play a sorcerer, I'd have rolled one) to get your ki regen back, you have less of it to spend.

    Ugh. Instead of adding content to the game, and making Shadowfail not suck you go and destroy existing content. How dumb is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oweieie View Post
    Good job Turbine ignoring everyone's complaints on lamania about taking people's monks, wiping your butt with them and giving us back the result. We now have a zillion useless ways to spend our ki, none of which we want to do. And unless you max out the useless mystic tree (that had I wanted to play a sorcerer, I'd have rolled one) to get your ki regen back, you have less of it to spend.

    Ugh. Instead of adding content to the game, and making Shadowfail not suck you go and destroy existing content. How dumb is that?
    This may be one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read on the forums. Either you're a complete troll or have no idea how to play the game.

    Pure monks still have the number one thing that makes them viable - Stunning Fist.

    Overpowered things added to monk that now make them the most powerful class in game : Quivering palm that can get its DCs into the 70 AND work with any weapon.

    Splashing fighter allows monks to stay centered while using kensai weapon.

    I... I honestly don't know what to say to this. Monks have been buffed so hard it's practically game breaking.

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    There's plenty of cheese (DC75 melee insta-kills) to go with your whine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalont View Post
    This may be one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read on the forums. Either you're a complete troll or have no idea how to play the game.
    As a complete troll I take offense to that remark.

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    From what I've been reading Monks are getting big buffs. Like usual. And I thought they were already the class that has it all....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalont View Post

    I... I honestly don't know what to say to this. Monks have been buffed so hard it's practically game breaking.

    Yeah that was my impression. Bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalont View Post
    This may be one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read on the forums. Either you're a complete troll or have no idea how to play the game.

    Pure monks still have the number one thing that makes them viable - Stunning Fist.

    Overpowered things added to monk that now make them the most powerful class in game : Quivering palm that can get its DCs into the 70 AND work with any weapon.

    Splashing fighter allows monks to stay centered while using kensai weapon.

    I... I honestly don't know what to say to this. Monks have been buffed so hard it's practically game breaking.
    But, but, but Monks now don't fit into my narrow minded view of how everyone should play them so they are now broken.

    Haters must hate or they implode even when it is glaringly obvious they don't know what they are talking about.

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    Yeah my monk that is now swing ESoS for quivering palm with DC over 70 is really feeling the nerf. (roll sarcasm check now)

    I would think it is the opposite as it seems to me at first glance that kensai's sole purpose is now to splash into monk. But that is just first glance, I'll reserve judgement till I see it in action.
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    I think owieowie had similar doom posts after MoTU, too. So he says nerf, everyone else says overbuffed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok.cry View Post
    Yeah my monk that is now swing ESoS for quivering palm with DC over 70 is really feeling the nerf. (roll sarcasm check now)
    Sarcasm or not, QP requires 15 monk levels, One with the Blade 8 fighter levels, no ?
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    You guys don't get it do you? For years and years Monk players have complained and made huge sweeping drama plays out of every bit of minutia, no matter how OP monks get they still complain, so that the Dev's never realize how OP they've made that class, and they keep buffing them even though they are already over powered.

    How else do you explain it?

    The best splash
    The most melee feats besides fighter
    The easiest to multiclass with anything
    The best Melee CC (stunning fist)
    The fastest Attacks
    Improved evasion for free which Rogues must spend a special feat on
    Multiple Melee insta kills
    Multiple melee "strikes"
    4 stances that all do very powerful things that Monks are already good at (Attack speed, Ki)
    Finishers
    Healing by sitting down anywhere
    Ki regen by sitting down anywhere (don't Casters wish they could sit down anywhere and regen mana?)
    Great saves
    Huge DPS potential
    Items that increase their base damage outside of other things that increase their base damage
    25% Dodge easy to obtain
    25% incorp easy to obtain
    Massive PRR from mountain stance
    etc.
    etc.

    Now "oh noes moar nerfing of teh Monk, Dev's you must buff us once again *dramatic swoon with back of hand on forehead*"

    It's all part of the plan, take an an already over powered class and make the devs feel like they need to buff it.

    Conversely Bards are running around the least played class in the game, yet you barely hear a peep out of them, and when you do there's more of them that think they aren't the weakest class in the game than there are who know better. So they stay mired in the bottom of the heap, desperate for buffs, left even further behind after this pass, but many of the people who play them want them to stay weak (My theory is it makes Piking easier)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encair View Post
    Sarcasm or not, QP requires 15 monk levels, One with the Blade 8 fighter levels, no ?
    That's okay Touch of death is going to work with weapons too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encair View Post
    Sarcasm or not, QP requires 15 monk levels, One with the Blade 8 fighter levels, no ?
    Rules lawyered!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironclans_evil_twin View Post
    You guys don't get it do you? For years and years Monk players have complained and made huge sweeping drama plays out of every bit of minutia, no matter how OP monks get they still complain, so that the Dev's never realize how OP they've made that class, and they keep buffing them even though they are already over powered.

    How else do you explain it?

    The best splash
    The most melee feats besides fighter
    The easiest to multiclass with anything
    The best Melee CC (stunning fist)
    The fastest Attacks
    Improved evasion for free which Rogues must spend a special feat on
    Multiple Melee insta kills
    Multiple melee "strikes"
    4 stances that all do very powerful things that Monks are already good at (Attack speed, Ki)
    Finishers
    Healing by sitting down anywhere
    Ki regen by sitting down anywhere (don't Casters wish they could sit down anywhere and regen mana?)
    Great saves
    Huge DPS potential
    Items that increase their base damage outside of other things that increase their base damage
    25% Dodge easy to obtain
    25% incorp easy to obtain
    Massive PRR from mountain stance
    etc.
    etc.

    Now "oh noes moar nerfing of teh Monk, Dev's you must buff us once again *dramatic swoon with back of hand on forehead*"

    It's all part of the plan, take an an already over powered class and make the devs feel like they need to buff it.

    Conversely Bards are running around the least played class in the game, yet you barely hear a peep out of them, and when you do there's more of them that think they aren't the weakest class in the game than there are who know better. So they stay mired in the bottom of the heap, desperate for buffs, left even further behind after this pass, but many of the people who play them want them to stay weak (My theory is it makes Piking easier)

    yes, monk fanbois are by far the biggest whiners and monks are the OP Pay2win class.

    In other news, the sun rises in the east.

    Jokes aside it's just plain stupid how powerful monks are with this pass. If you need to find me I'll be abusing the hell out of my LR+20 hearts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oweieie View Post
    Good job Turbine ignoring everyone's complaints on lamania about taking people's monks, wiping your butt with them and giving us back the result. We now have a zillion useless ways to spend our ki, none of which we want to do. And unless you max out the useless mystic tree (that had I wanted to play a sorcerer, I'd have rolled one) to get your ki regen back, you have less of it to spend.

    Ugh. Instead of adding content to the game, and making Shadowfail not suck you go and destroy existing content. How dumb is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll View Post
    If you need to find me I'll be abusing the hell out of my LR+20 hearts.
    THAT'S NOT WHAT THOSE ARE FOR! oh... you... didn't mean it that way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oweieie View Post
    Silly snippy snoo
    I really hope I am failing my sarcasm check here....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironclans_evil_twin View Post
    THAT'S NOT WHAT THOSE ARE FOR! oh... you... didn't mean it that way?
    Jokes aside . . . some bean-counter probably saw not enough n00bs were Pay2winng their way on monk so they decided to make them OP so they will sell more in the store.

    Once the report indicates most have bought monk expect the nerf hammer.

    THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE. Like 3-4 times since 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironclans_evil_twin View Post
    You guys don't get it do you? For years and years Monk players have complained and made huge sweeping drama plays out of every bit of minutia, no matter how OP monks get they still complain, so that the Dev's never realize how OP they've made that class, and they keep buffing them even though they are already over powered.

    How else do you explain it?

    The best splash
    The most melee feats besides fighter
    The easiest to multiclass with anything
    The best Melee CC (stunning fist)
    The fastest Attacks
    Improved evasion for free which Rogues must spend a special feat on
    Multiple Melee insta kills
    Multiple melee "strikes"
    4 stances that all do very powerful things that Monks are already good at (Attack speed, Ki)
    Finishers
    Healing by sitting down anywhere
    Ki regen by sitting down anywhere (don't Casters wish they could sit down anywhere and regen mana?)
    Great saves
    Huge DPS potential
    Items that increase their base damage outside of other things that increase their base damage
    25% Dodge easy to obtain
    25% incorp easy to obtain
    Massive PRR from mountain stance
    etc.
    etc.

    Now "oh noes moar nerfing of teh Monk, Dev's you must buff us once again *dramatic swoon with back of hand on forehead*"

    It's all part of the plan, take an an already over powered class and make the devs feel like they need to buff it.

    Conversely Bards are running around the least played class in the game, yet you barely hear a peep out of them, and when you do there's more of them that think they aren't the weakest class in the game than there are who know better. So they stay mired in the bottom of the heap, desperate for buffs, left even further behind after this pass, but many of the people who play them want them to stay weak (My theory is it makes Piking easier)

    Shhh!!!

    you'll ruin my plan for a monk sitting in Greater mountain stance with high AC, max dodge, 25% incorp, and better instakills than a palemaster.

    Also, bard's biggest weakness is obviously that it can't splash monk, so ;-)



    In truth, i think rangers are becoming a great splash class as well, now that their enhancments won't require 3 feats. 2 ranger gives you twf, bow strength, rapid shot, and you're choice of the following:
    10 AP for 75 positive spell power, +1 sneak attack die, and 4? uses of lessor vigor spell like ability
    7 AP for 100 spell points and magical training feat (so 180, +5% spell crit+echoes of power)
    10 AP for 4 shield bonus to AC and 10 PRR while dualwielding
    or any combination of the 3

    And the benefits only go up between 3-6 ranger levels.

    As strong as monk? not quite, but getting closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaneArcher52689 View Post
    Shhh!!!

    you'll ruin my plan for a monk sitting in Greater mountain stance with high AC, max dodge, 25% incorp, and better instakills than a palemaster.

    Also, bard's biggest weakness is obviously that it can't splash monk, so ;-)



    In truth, i think rangers are becoming a great splash class as well, now that their enhancments won't require 3 feats. 2 ranger gives you twf, bow strength, rapid shot, and you're choice of the following:
    10 AP for 75 positive spell power, +1 sneak attack die, and 4? uses of lessor vigor spell like ability
    7 AP for 100 spell points and magical training feat (so 180, +5% spell crit+echoes of power)
    10 AP for 4 shield bonus to AC and 10 PRR while dualwielding
    or any combination of the 3

    And the benefits only go up between 3-6 ranger levels.

    As strong as monk? not quite, but getting closer.
    Monk 15/ranger 3/fighter 2. Can do all you want with a DC75ish QP.

    I think we'll call it "The Charlie Sheen."

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