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    Default Tubine PR fail, no stories of DDO's expansion on gaming sites

    Did my usual rounds, checking news, and saw no mention anywhere of DDO's second expansion going live today. This seems like a clear failure of Turbine's PR department (if they even have one). Joystiq and Massively in particular will post ANYTHING including small developer and indy stuff, but no mentions at all.

    One of DDO's problems is clearly that they have no clue how to advertize or get their game in the public eye. An expansion that they want to sell, that no ones talking about and Turbine is obviously not getting out there is jaw droppingly stupid.

    Massively is talking about what MMO has the biggest world map, indy f2p MMO's that aren't even in beta and GW2's second anniversary come on you guys you're dropping your own ball here.

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    Might be because the content is rather thin on the expansion. Though with sales that surely must be lagging you would hope they would have pumped it out.

    I literally don't know a single person who has bought it where as everyone I knew bought the MOTU pre-purchase Platinum Level. Some bought more than one as they had multiple accounts.

    *Shrugs* does seem strange though.


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    I dont think this pile of......... would be worthy of promoting as a new expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiliconScout View Post
    I literally don't know a single person who has bought it where as everyone I knew bought the MOTU pre-purchase Platinum Level.
    Seems logical to me that sales were lower, on the other hand look for characters wearing the collectors edition cosmetic goggles and the bladeforged running around, or after today all the other iconics. Seen plenty of those myself. So I don't think they're that low.

    And yes, I bought it last week, even knowing it is not as good a value as MOTU was. As much or more for the reason that I like the cut of ProducerRowan's jib and have some better outlook for the game lately as for my availability of disposable income.

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    You would think someone would email a few gaming sites with the press release and launch video like bluesnews.com about this. They always print news about game updates/expansions.

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    Default Expansion?

    To me, this is not an expansion, motu was an expansion. If this is an expansion then I fear well have to spend points on every update(hereafter called expansions) in the future.

    The enhancement pass we all got for free, so that cant be considered part of the expansion. Basically you have the iconics, which are all slight variations of other races, some wilderness and a few quests.

    I didn't buy it, and not because im penniless or anything, I just feel it should be free to vips, nothing in this "expansion" that doesn't fall squarely into the category of things vips were told they would get for free, new quests, classes and races. Motu had epic destinies and a ton of content, I still wasn't happy I didn't get it free as I felt id been promised, but it was a decent deal, and they put a lot of work into it.

    I feel a large portion of the work done this time around was for the pass, and im not paying for that.

    Im vip, ill just save up my points and eventually use them for the "expansion" content, I sure as hell wont be buying a point bundle. Way I see it im gonna get it all just for being VIP one way or another.

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    Yes, we all know by now you hate the Expansion, but really, running so thin on things to hate on you pick PR Dept because nothing on the Launch?

    Didn't gaming sites preview the expansion already.

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    We paid for the Enhancement Pass that came along with a few quests. Nothing more, nothing less.

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    I think it was MajMal (though I could be wrong there) that said the reason for the Harbor redisign was in response to exit surveys, the gist of which was that new players were losing interest/not progressing past that stage of the game. I have wondered (asked rhetorically) in a few threads what the point is of addressing the issue of new player retention when they seem to do so little in terms of new player acquisition...
    Now excuse me while I wander off to arm myself with Grilled Cheese Sandwiches and hunker down behind my Armored Beer Refrigerator, while I have the UFO's take control of the Congresional Wives with the help of the International Cocaine Smugglers and the Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow - btw, do you have change for 10 million population?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwaz99 View Post
    We paid for the Enhancement Pass that came along with a few quests. Nothing more, nothing less.
    We paid for the Enhancements last Expansion. This expansion was quality over quantity.

    They even kept the walls in place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    Yes, we all know by now you hate the Expansion, but really, running so thin on things to hate on you pick PR Dept because nothing on the Launch?

    Didn't gaming sites preview the expansion already.
    Be nice to know who the heck you're addressing. Also you forget the "I SACRIFICE MYSELF FOR THE HONOR OF TURBINE!"

    You seem to be pointing this at me, but you're obviously misinformed, appearently in your continued zeal to throw yourself in front of even the slightest "slings and arrows" directed at the object of your devotion you've mistaken me for someone else.

    I "hate" the expansion so much that I've openly talked about having bought the full preorder including owl bear hireling fluff upgrade.

    I am not the hater you're looking for, I am able to use critical thinking to compare good Turbine moves and bad Turbine moves and form a rational opinion that does not force me into the position of defending dumb stuff for no reason.

    PS now that I've been accused of being a hater in addition to a fanboy, I must consider that unequivocal proof that I have a balanced and reasonable viewpoint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PermaBanned View Post
    I think it was MajMal (though I could be wrong there) that said the reason for the Harbor redisign was in response to exit surveys, the gist of which was that new players were losing interest/not progressing past that stage of the game. I have wondered (asked rhetorically) in a few threads what the point is of addressing the issue of new player retention when they seem to do so little in terms of new player acquisition...
    I'm not sure what your question is in that regard - retention is a force multiplier for acquisition, and first impressions matter enormously. If they don't retain them, chances are they're gone for good, and that's a potential revenue source forever barred to them.

    Right now the environment for new players is borderline hostile (bravery bonus, party xp penalties for death and reentry, a clunky and unforgiving character design system that the enhancement pass only partially resolves).

    One thing I noticed the enhancement pass did was it got rid of the worst of the newbie traps. Newbie bait is still there, of course, but it's nowhere near as bad.

    Feats and skills could certainly use a looking at next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironclans_evil_twin View Post
    be nice to know who the heck you're addressing. Also you forget the "i sacrifice myself for the honor of turbine!"

    you seem to be pointing this at me, but you're obviously misinformed, appearently in your continued zeal to throw yourself in front of even the slightest "slings and arrows" directed at the object of your devotion you've mistaken me for someone else.

    I "hate" the expansion so much that i've openly talked about having bought the full preorder including owl bear hireling fluff upgrade.

    I am not the hater you're looking for, i am able to use critical thinking to compare good turbine moves and bad turbine moves and form a rational opinion that does not force me into the position of defending dumb stuff for no reason.

    Ps now that i've been accused of being a hater in addition to a fanboy, i must consider that unequivocal proof that i have a balanced and reasonable viewpoint.
    leave turbine alone you horrid person!!!!!!!!

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