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    Default A Workaround for Known Issue: LR +20 with 3 different classes;

    Taken from the known issues list:
    NEW: Hearts of Wood (including the +20 Heart of Wood that every character receives with the release of the Shadowfell Conspiracy) do not allow characters to have more than three classes during the reincarnation process, including "future" levels they haven't taken yet during the respec process, since DDO remembers what class levels you had prior to reincarnating even if the player intended to have only three classes by the end of the process. Swapping the class you don't want into one of your existing classes, and then performing another reincarnation to train into the desired 3rd class, can bypass this issue.
    The proposed swap is interesting, but I don't think that turbine will provide extra hearts for the additional reincarnation.

    However, there's a possible workaround (which won't necessary work with all level splits):

    Suppose you have a 11 Ranger/6 Monk/3 Artificer which you want to LR to, say, 11 Ranger/6 Monk/3 Druid.

    As per above, it isn't possible to swap the 3 Arty levels for 3 Druid levels. But, you could take instead of the old arty levels Ranger and Monk levels until there are no Arty levels left. Then you are free to choose a third class again and fill up the remaining levels (former ranger and monk) with druid. This won't work if you back-loaded the Arty levels, and doesn't let you choose your class progression freely.
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    Don't think that will work it knows you already had 3 classes when you started only way to do it is to be down to 2 classes when you start


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    Quote Originally Posted by Uska View Post
    Don't think that will work it knows you already had 3 classes when you started only way to do it is to be down to 2 classes when you start
    Yes it will work. As soon as you've erased a class from your split, you can take another one (erased from both previous and next levels).
    This workaround is quite limited tho.
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    This sounds like it would work. One way to think of it is that you cannot have more than four classes at any time during the reincarnation process, and the process remembers what classes you had prior to the respec. So, if you erased all evidence during your travels up the level chain, then yeah, you wouldn't hit the "four classes" wall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    This sounds like it would work.
    Baring the screwup of counting Epic as a class, that is the way it has always worked.

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    I would test anything that is complex out on the Lam server first. Just copy your character there - if you make a mistake on live I am not sure if there is any real good way to undo it. Plus your LR +20 is gone forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    This sounds like it would work. One way to think of it is that you cannot have more than four classes at any time during the reincarnation process, and the process remembers what classes you had prior to the respec. So, if you erased all evidence during your travels up the level chain, then yeah, you wouldn't hit the "four classes" wall.
    I probably have 30 characters that will be affected by this, no exaggeration. Isnt there a better way? Off the top of my head maybe allow any number of classes while on boat, but don't allow off boat til down to 3. Or force them into a character creation screen where you can control how it will play out before they are let into the world to level.

    The order you take your classes in is vital to a characters skills, this enhancement pass is enough of a nerf already for some builds, this bug (tho no one else seems to be calling it that) makes it a nerf to many more builds that it otherwise would've been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01000010 View Post
    I probably have 30 characters that will be affected by this, no exaggeration. Isnt there a better way? Off the top of my head maybe allow any number of classes while on boat, but don't allow off boat til down to 3. Or force them into a character creation screen where you can control how it will play out before they are let into the world to level.

    The order you take your classes in is vital to a characters skills, this enhancement pass is enough of a nerf already for some builds, this bug (tho no one else seems to be calling it that) makes it a nerf to many more builds that it otherwise would've been.
    This is definitely something that's been raised (to change the process to put the three-class restriction at the end, rather than during, the process), but unfortunately cracking open reincarnation is a pretty risky task from a development standpoint, with the potential for some serious and numerous halo issues, and a decision was made to not do this at this time. It's possible that reincarnation could be adjusted to work around this current three-class issue in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01000010 View Post
    I probably have 30 characters that will be affected by this, no exaggeration. Isnt there a better way? Off the top of my head maybe allow any number of classes while on boat, but don't allow off boat til down to 3. Or force them into a character creation screen where you can control how it will play out before they are let into the world to level.

    The order you take your classes in is vital to a characters skills, this enhancement pass is enough of a nerf already for some builds, this bug (tho no one else seems to be calling it that) makes it a nerf to many more builds that it otherwise would've been.
    I feel for you for having to redo all 30 of them. But really the only reason we got a LR+20, is so its even possible to change the builds to re-optimize them. All the talk about wanting to change out more than one character class - that is not about repairing a build - or re-optimizing it - that is about making a completely different build.
    Maybe understandably, if a build / class feels too nerfed now, but its not the purpose of the LR to enable that. The purpose was to help change class split lvl to fix things (or in some cases make a minor change to take say a cleric lvl instead of a FvS lvl or something). And for that the current (and well known) system works pretty well. I am glad we got a LR+20, honestly for many characters you won't even need a LR, and for another big part of the repairs a simple LR will do nicely.
    Only the more advanced builds really need to change more splits, and they are more often used by people who already know of the 3 class at a time limitation and have been working with that for years now.

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