when you know how to Fascinate/enthrall, use song of capering and ottos irrisistable dance, have a DC of over 70 without breaking a sweat (CC EE gianthold anyone ??? my bard can with extreme effectiveness... songs dont break invis, and damage doesnt always break enthral)
lets just say my bard now has just shy of 900hp, dual wields either axe of adaxus + mourn hammer or switches to 2 nightmares, has PRR of 51 with 0 arcane spell failure, crits for 400+ without adrenaline, 2k+ with adrenaline, can self haste, displacement and now self heal for 700+ per hit, has SP song, recharging songs.....
I can only assume that the people who think bards are the red headed stepchild dont actually know how to play a bard propertly...
dont get me wrong I initially created a bard as a self hasting and self healing melee warchanter..... got to cap but never once did i fascinate, did all the raids did my part in groups and still never fascinated
and at the time would have thought yeah bards are okm but could do with some improvmenets
than I started to fascinate (I also have a high DC CC wizard)... I will tell you this when you have fascinate that has no spell pen check has a DC that nothing will save against, has a 95% success rate, you dont have to stop moving, you start learning at what point in the song will the mobs get fascinated, learn to judge at what point you have to start singing and where you will be when the fascinate hits, how you can group mobs up while singing and than.... everything stops you'll see the bard in a different light
than you consider your bard has enough points to keep spellcraft, heal, perform, UMD maxed at each level, twist in energy burst + momentus swing, with both cleaves... you'll find a toon that can
Melee as well as any none barb
CC with a 70+ DC
Self heal for 700+
50+ PRR with added displacement, rage and haste
...... wheres the gimpness in that ?... they're not a gimp class, its just the vast majority of bards i've grouped with sing a few songs and pike the rest....dont really know how to build or play a bard
... but yeah lets keep it like that.....avoid that nerf bat
..... its easy to follow build from a post on the forums... but is far more satisfying understanding a class and building your own toon once you know everything the class has to offer...