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    11 New Quests,
    2 New Wilderness Areas.

    And this is an Expansion?
    We must all gather as one, all the VIP's and all the players and demand more quality!

    My grandma's advice for today:

    1. Put all your most valuable possessions in the Bank, your scales and any extreme valuables out of your bags and on the last spot of your inventory, or bank slot, do not put anything in bags. (Bags are bad, they can disappear
    2. Roll yourself a couple of Haggle bards and sit tight and enjoy the show.
    3. Roll some more haggle bards.
    4. Again sit tight and enjoy the show.
    5. Send me a thank you message later
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fundamental View Post
    11 New Quests,
    2 New Wilderness Areas.

    And this is an Expansion?
    We must all gather as one, all the VIP's and all the players and demand more quality!
    I think you meant "quantity".

    Also, as a VIP, your opinion on the expansion means nothing.
    If you pre-ordered your opinion only matters as much as the people in charge at Turbine say it does.

    Also, I really do not know what people are so upset about.
    If this was just another update no one would make a fuss about it.
    The word expansion doesn't mean that much tbh, other than you have to dish out 30 bucks. (This is not a lot by any other hobbies standards. Even in gaming) And It's sure to cost even less in a few weeks if you don't pre-order. Just get over it already. It's happening and no amount of threads complaining about it will change it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fundamental View Post
    And this is an Expansion?
    The name is partially correct. It is a conspiracy. To get players to part with their money despite getting practically nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fundamental View Post
    11 New Quests,
    2 New Wilderness Areas.

    And this is an Expansion?
    We must all gather as one, all the VIP's and all the players and demand more quality!
    So, what bundle did you buy then?

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    I feel I am getting my money's worth after playing the xpac on Lama.

    I will point out one thing, if you are planning to buy points in the near future:

    xpack + 11,000 pt package you can add only with the xpac: 89.98
    11,000 pt package in the DDO store right now: 99.99

    I realize it won't fit into everyone's budget, but it's an option if you are planning to buy points anyhow. You might as well save $10 and get the xpac for free.
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    its an expansion because its a different story line than Eberron. other than that, its just an update with more quests.

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    What we bought was the Enhancement Pass that came with some quests and a large amount of "fluff" items. Nothing more.

    Was it worth the money? That entirely depends on what version you bought (Standard or Collectors), if your a person who like pets and cosmetics "fluff" items, if your for or against the enhancements pass and what your budget is.

    If $30-80 is a lot of money on your budget I see where you might not see much value in the Xpac, especially when you compare it to MotU.

    And as much as I am going to hate agreeing with Ara as she will never let me forget it, she speaks truth (for one time only! ).

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLegendOfAra View Post
    I think you meant "quantity".

    Also, as a VIP, your opinion on the expansion means nothing.
    If you pre-ordered your opinion only matters as much as the people in charge at Turbine say it does.

    Also, I really do not know what people are so upset about.
    If this was just another update no one would make a fuss about it.
    The word expansion doesn't mean that much tbh, other than you have to dish out 30 bucks. (This is not a lot by any other hobbies standards. Even in gaming) And It's sure to cost even less in a few weeks if you don't pre-order. Just get over it already. NO YOU CAN'T MAKE ME! It's happening and no amount of threads complaining about it will change it.
    The label "Expansion" is just semantics used by Turbine to allow them to charge for content that would normally be free to VIP's. Turbine also uses semantics with Lamannia alternating between "Preview" and "Beta" to fit their needs. But in reality it is not nor ever has been a beta server. It's strictly a preview server. It's there to hype people up, get them to talk their friends into buying whatever it is they are previewing. They use the term beta as a lure to draw people onto the server and give the illusion that they are helping shape the content they play. Now if you don't believe me, and Turbine counts on you not, I have beach front property in Idaho to sell you.

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    I am just disappointed that there is no new raid content. I'll probably wait for a TP sale, then wait for the expansion pack to go on sale in future.

    Something else which has me worried is how they are going to cram 3 levels worth of content in 11 quests. To me the maths just doesn't add up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendael View Post
    Something else which has me worried is how they are going to cram 3 levels worth of content in 11 quests. To me the maths just doesn't add up.
    Let's be honest, Worrying about this is silly. MOTU came with roughly 15 quests and a raid. Now, given the way people ran these, realistically we had about 11 quests to run to cap us from level 20 to 25 +ED's. Sure we had more explorer areas, but I hardly touched them outside of running to quests, and I still capped to 25 with no problems.

    Unless the XP ratio's on these new quests is just absolute sh*t, then we should have nothing at all to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLegendOfAra View Post
    Also, Prep, I always speak the truth. I'm as innocent as a little kitten.
    The one that was in Pet Sematary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwaz99 View Post
    The one that was in Pet Sematary.
    Hehehe I always thought that Cat was cute!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLegendOfAra View Post
    Hehehe I always thought that Cat was cute!
    I should of known..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    So, what bundle did you buy then?
    LOL! Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendael View Post
    I am just disappointed that there is no new raid content. I'll probably wait for a TP sale, then wait for the expansion pack to go on sale in future.

    Something else which has me worried is how they are going to cram 3 levels worth of content in 11 quests. To me the maths just doesn't add up.
    There is also a change to the xp system that will provide daily bonuses and clear ransack xp over time. So they made sure everyone can level to 28.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fundamental View Post
    11 New Quests,
    2 New Wilderness Areas.

    And this is an Expansion?
    We must all gather as one, all the VIP's and all the players and demand more quality!
    U'll order that expansion and like it! Now as a very important person the vip is to make sure that coffee mug is full 24/7!! bwahahah.

    oh come on, you know it's true....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLegendOfAra View Post
    I think you meant "quantity".

    Also, as a VIP, your opinion on the expansion means nothing.
    If you pre-ordered your opinion only matters as much as the people in charge at Turbine say it does.

    Also, I really do not know what people are so upset about.
    If this was just another update no one would make a fuss about it.
    The word expansion doesn't mean that much tbh, other than you have to dish out 30 bucks. (This is not a lot by any other hobbies standards. Even in gaming) And It's sure to cost even less in a few weeks if you don't pre-order. Just get over it already. It's happening and no amount of threads complaining about it will change it.
    If this was just another update, VIPS would get it WITHOUT paying extra for it, like we're SUPPOSED to, and there would be a lot less REASON to fuss. But nooooooo, since it's an "expansion", we have to PAY for it.

    The only "Conspiracy" here is Turbine making up a way to charge us for stuff we're supposed to be getting for the cost of our subscription. Update...Expansion...they can use whatever word they want. Its new CONTENT, and vips are supposed to get all content.
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    There will be new raid in future. I just hope it will be included within SFC expansion postupdate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morkahn82 View Post
    There will be new raid in future. I just hope it will be included within SFC expansion postupdate.
    I think the new raid will come as a separate *expansion* prob with 3 new quests and an explorer area if we are lucky.

    Ok im joking.........well I hope it will turn out to be a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philibusta View Post
    The only "Conspiracy" here is Turbine making up a way to charge us for stuff we're supposed to be getting for the cost of our subscription. Update...Expansion...they can use whatever word they want. Its new CONTENT, and vips are supposed to get all content.
    They could, besides update and expansion, introduces the extension, which is free for premium only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philibusta View Post
    If this was just another update, VIPS would get it WITHOUT paying extra for it, like we're SUPPOSED to, and there would be a lot less REASON to fuss. But nooooooo, since it's an "expansion", we have to PAY for it.

    The only "Conspiracy" here is Turbine making up a way to charge us for stuff we're supposed to be getting for the cost of our subscription. Update...Expansion...they can use whatever word they want. Its new CONTENT, and vips are supposed to get all content.
    Sorry, you had to pay for something, and I'm supposed to feel sorry for you because...?

    Look I get it, way back when Turbine made a promise that VIPs would get everything for their $10 a month. And then the management changed, and then the devs changed, and then the game changed. Multiple times! Did you really expect any different?

    But, on the bright side you only have to pay for expansions. We've had a whopping two(2!!) so far.
    I'm sorry, but I don't feel sorry that you had to pay for these.
    All I'm hearing from so called "VIPs" on the forums is how you have to pay for everything now, and it's soooo horrible.
    Except for you know, U15, and U16, Oh, and there was also U17, even U18(Granted this one was kind of meh, and clearly a money grab for pre-orders).

    Tell me again how horrible it is being a VIP?
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