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    Quote Originally Posted by Nodoze View Post
    You may want to add a note in the OP that not all Divine DCs are based on Wisdom.
    All spell DCs are, for Cleric, FvS, and Druid. But I've added this note to the OP:

    "This is also just focused on spells. There are various other abilities with DCs that are based off of attributes other than Wisdom; these are beyond the scope of this post."

    Quote Originally Posted by Nodoze View Post
    A max Charisma PDK FvS can have a good to-hit/damage with melee, extremely high saves, among the highest Diplomacy to shed agro, high UMD, & good DCs on at least Divine Wrath & Avenging Light (both of which have saves for half damage).
    OK. Not criticizing such a character at all, but it's a very different sort of character than a DC-based caster, which is more what I'm focusing on in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirValentine View Post
    All spell DCs are, for Cleric, FvS, and Druid. But I've added this note to the OP:

    "This is also just focused on spells. There are various other abilities with DCs that are based off of attributes other than Wisdom; these are beyond the scope of this post."



    OK. Not criticizing such a character at all, but it's a very different sort of character than a DC-based caster, which is more what I'm focusing on in this thread.
    No worries. When I read the tread as Divine DCs those were the DCs that came to mind as those were the ones I have been using lately. They will leverage Wisdom if it is higher than Charisma so both stats work for them... I also have a max Wis Cleric build and this thread is helpful. Thanks for adding the note.

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    Default Update 21 changes

    Update 21 brings several potential DC changes:

    +1 Profane DC on Shadowscale armor
    +2 Exceptional DC on a Thunderforged weapon
    +1 more (+6 instead of +5) Equipment bonus to a specific school on a Thunderforged weapon.
    -1 from -2 Wisdom by replacing an Alchemical weapon with a Thunderforged Weapon
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    +3 more DC

    Also, my original post was never updated to account for Epic Completionist possibly granting +1 more Wisdom, which for current-odd-max-Wisdom combinations also results in +1 more DC.

    However, the current thread is a bit cluttered, and maybe not as well organized as I'd like. Rather than continuing to update this thread, if/when I get the time & initiative, I'll start a new updated thread. Actually, I'll probably wait for a new thread until after the new Divine Sphere Epic Destiny changes come out, as they will likely also impact this.

    In the meantime, if there's any other DC-divine-relevant things, be they U21 changes or other stuff, that I've missed, please let me know.
    Last edited by SirValentine; 03-10-2014 at 08:48 AM.

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