# Thread: Crafting: OK, it appears that I am stupid. Can someone un-stupid me please?

1. ## Crafting: OK, it appears that I am stupid. Can someone un-stupid me please?

....or possibly the word is de-stupid. Whatever.

I've started crafting (Cannith, basic stuff, essences and what-not) on my level 17 Wiz. I've got A HUNDRED GRAZILLION essences (OK, maybe a few less) and want to craft some gear for my upcoming (hopefully soon, oh how I hate this Wiz) TR.

I've read the Wiki from start to finish, looked up every guide I can find, and do understand how the majority of it works, but...

Why can I not understand the ML the damn item will come out at when I've made it???? Is there an easy calculation please?

Started crafting today, so please bear in mind I am an utter utter crafting newb.

Thanks

Aes.

2. Originally Posted by Istaria1
....or possibly the word is de-stupid. Whatever.

I've started crafting (Cannith, basic stuff, essences and what-not) on my level 17 Wiz. I've got A HUNDRED GRAZILLION essences (OK, maybe a few less) and want to craft some gear for my upcoming (hopefully soon, oh how I hate this Wiz) TR.

I've read the Wiki from start to finish, looked up every guide I can find, and do understand how the majority of it works, but...

Why can I not understand the ML the damn item will come out at when I've made it???? Is there an easy calculation please?

Started crafting today, so please bear in mind I am an utter utter crafting newb.

Thanks

Aes.
http://cannith.cubicleninja.com/

this site will help

but as easy thumb-rule
shard value added, then multiplie with 2 and then subtract 1.
so +2 and +3 = +5 * 2 = 10 -1 = minlvl 9

with crafting marks you can reduce the minlvl an additional 2 but you need cannith favor or tons of money because they are overpriced in the AH and the ingame shop

3. Add all the shards "plus" value.

Double it.

Diminish one.

That is the item ML.

If the base item have a colorless slot, add +2 to ML.

If the base item have a colored slot, add +4 to ML.

If you use a shard of Masterful Craftsmanship I, reduce ML by 2.

4. Perfect! Thank you both

5. In the formula:

ML = 2X-1

Where X is the total potential, things that modify the ML (masterful, augments, etc...) don't modify the ML directly. They modify the "X." This is relevant when you craft a +12 item (ML20) and then apply masterful hoping for ML18. No joy; masterful takes the +12 down to +11, and +11 is still ML20.

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