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    Default New Monk Form Feats - How do they Work?

    Hey since Lammania is down right now and I as a lowly premium player was not allowed into the beta I have been unable able to test this so I figured I'd just ask. I've heard that anyone with Monk Levels can take feats to boost their stances. How does this work

    For Example if I'm a Cleric 18/Monk2 can I just take the Grandmaster of Forms feat and bam I have the 4 grandmaster forms or since I only have the Tier 1 stances do I need to take the feats in order so I have Disciple -> Feat 1: Adept of Forms -> Feat 2: Master of Forms -> Feat 3 Grandmaster of Forms.

    Also do they have any other pre-reqs?
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    Either autogranted with 6/12/18 ( adept/master/grandmaster) monk levels, or as feats. Now I don't remember if there are any stat prerequisites, but I don't think so.
    I made a fresh 18/2 clonk with 72 stun, some ~ 60 EiN and grandmaster stances. 2 Wis, 3 % dodge, 3 saves, passive ki for 3 feats.
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    Ok so it does look like you can take them regardless of Monk levels (need at least 1 for base stances) and each feat requires the tier below it so if your an adept thats 3 feats to get grandmaster stances. Oh and they don't count as bonus monk feats, normal feat slot only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failedlegend View Post
    Ok so it does look like you can take them regardless of Monk levels (need at least 1 for base stances) and each feat requires the tier below it so if your an adept thats 3 feats to get grandmaster stances. Oh and they don't count as bonus monk feats, normal feat slot only.

    The stance is granted automatically as a Monk, do not have to pick them. They are granted to you when you meet the Level and stat requirements.

    You can now be GM in all stances so long as you meet the requirements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    The stance is granted automatically as a Monk, do not have to pick them. They are granted to you when you meet the Level and stat requirements.

    You can now be GM in all stances so long as you meet the requirements.
    I'm saying you can purchase higher tiers if you stop progressing as a Monk by spending feats
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    Adept of Forms cannot be taken before level 6.
    Master of Forms cannot be taken before level 12.
    Grandmaster of Forms cannot be taken before level 18.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpone View Post
    Adept of Forms cannot be taken before level 6.
    Master of Forms cannot be taken before level 12.
    Grandmaster of Forms cannot be taken before level 18.
    Thanks
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    Are the stat requirements the same for each form as the old enhancements used to be?

    Does the stat requirement only effect the auto grant at monk levels? Or is it a requirement

    as well for any class when you actually choose it?

    Thanks for all the help.

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    As far as I am aware there are no stat requirements for the stances, only a level requirement and at least 1 level of monk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsmoof View Post
    Are the stat requirements the same for each form as the old enhancements used to be?

    Does the stat requirement only effect the auto grant at monk levels? Or is it a requirement

    as well for any class when you actually choose it?

    Thanks for all the help.
    There are no stat requirements for stances. My AA starts with 11 CON (after subtracting -2 for being an Elf). With a +4 tome, I'm still able to access all Master stances. That's not possible on live, where Master Earth stance requires 16 CON.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failedlegend View Post
    I'm saying you can purchase higher tiers if you stop progressing as a Monk by spending feats
    Thank you Failed, lack of coffee and all that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    Thank you Failed, lack of coffee and all that....
    No problem
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