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  1. #1
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    Default Which of these is the best build?

    My first build was to be a half orc barbarian/rogue/ranger in LD with manyshot but it looks like there aren't enough AP to get brutality, no mercy, and bully (24, 26, and 36 I believe) not to mention crit rage with them. So I scrapped that one and came up with these other builds:

    1.
    Half-orc Fighter 12/Paladin 4/Ranger 4/LD
    kensei tier 5 (31 ap, keen edge)
    kotc tier 3 (22 ap, divine might, exalted smite 3/divine sac 3)
    horc tier 3 (24 ap, brutality)
    arcane archer tier 1 (3 ap, conjure arrows)
    Feats: PA, C, GC, IC, PBS, manyshot, stunning blow, THF, ITHF, GTHF, WF/WS/GWF/GWS
    Epic Feats: OWC, ICR, epic damage reduction
    ED Feats: PTHF, epic tactician
    Twists: sense weakness, pin, primal scream
    Uses stunning blow or pin to set up 250% helpless damage (1.5 base + 0.5 LD + 0.3 SW + 0.2 brutality) then manyshot or exalted smite/divine sacrifice.

    2.
    Human Fighter 12/Paladin 4/Monk 4/LD
    kensei tier 5 (33 ap, centered 2 hander)
    ninja spy tier 4 (26 ap, no mercy) or shintao tier 2 (11 ap, 15 PRR)
    kotc tier 3 (20 ap, divine might, exalted smite 3/divine sac 2)
    Feats: PA, C, GC, IC, PBS, WFR, bow strength, RS, manyshot, zen archery, monk stance x3 (15 PRR), WF/WS/GWF/GWS
    Epic Feats: stunning blow, OWC, ICR (initial post said IMA but you don't qualify for it)
    ED Feats: PTHF, epic tactician
    Twists: sense weakness, pin, primal scream/dance of flowers (depending on stunning blow dc)
    Uses stunning blow or pin to set up 260% helpless damage (1.5 + 0.5 + 0.3 + 0.3) then manyshot or exalted smite/divine sacrifice. Uses monk level 18 ki strikes.

    3.
    Human Monk 12/Paladin 4/Rogue 4/FOTW
    henshin tier 5 (32 ap, 15-20/x4 stout walking stick)
    kotc tier 3 (18 ap, divine might, exalted smite 3/divine sac 1)
    acrobat tier 1 (4 ap, 15% attack speed with staves... on live the attack speed stacks with haste, does it stack in the beta?)
    ninja spy tier 4 (26 ap, no mercy, 25% incorp)
    Feats: PA, C, GC, ICB, PBS, WFR, bow strength, RS, manyshot, zen archery, grandmaster of stances
    Epic Feats: OWC, improved martial arts, epic damage reduction
    ED Feats: PTHF, holy strike
    Twists: dance of flowers, pin, rej cocoon
    Uses exalted smite adrenalines (x30 damage) followed by divine sacrifice when they are knocked down or pin followed by manyshot or adrenaline smite.

    4.
    Warforged Artificer 16/Paladin 4/FOTW
    warforged tier 1 (16 ap, repair systems, +2 con, improved power attack)
    kotc tier 3 (22 ap, divine might, exalted smite 3/divine sac 3)
    arcanotech tier 2 (11 ap, wand and scroll mastery, efficient quicken)
    battle engineer tier 4 (25 ap, level 12 core, damage boost, haste boost, 5 PRR, +2 strength)
    Feats: adamantine body, PA, C, GC, IC, PBS, WFR, bow strength, RS, manyshot, quicken
    Epic Feats: OWC, ICR, epic damage reduction
    ED Feats: PTHF, holy strike
    Twists: pin, brace for impact, momentum swing
    Uses exalted smite adrenalines (x25 damage with a x3 weapon base) followed by divine sacrifice when they are knocked down or pin followed by manyshot or adrenaline smite.

    5.
    Warforged Artificer 16/Monk 2/Ranger 2/LD (ie juggernaut)
    shintao tier 2 (11 ap, iron skin 15 PRR)
    warforged tier 1 (6 ap, repair systems)
    henshin tier 2 (11 ap, quick strike for 25% staff doublestrike)
    arcane archer tier 1 (3 ap, conjure arrows)
    tempest tier 2 (13 ap, haste boost and improved dodge)
    arcanotech tier 2 (11 ap, wand and scroll mastery, efficient quicken)
    battle engineer tier 4 (23 ap, level 12 core, damage boost, endless fusilade, 5 PRR, +1 strength)
    Feats: PA, C, GC, IC, PBS, manyshot, zen archery, ICR, monk stance x3 (15 PRR), quicken, precise shot (or toughness)
    Epic Feats: OWC, improved precise shot (or epic toughness), epic damage reduction (10 PRR)
    ED Feats: PTHF, holy strike
    Twists: sense weakness, pin, dance of flowers
    Uses pin to set up manyshot. Uses monk level 18 ki strikes. Has 45 PRR before equipment using a staff.
    Last edited by maddong; 08-07-2013 at 08:47 PM.

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    I originally planned on the 12 fighter 4monk/4 pally because I saved myself a twist by reaching turn undead through level 4 pally.

    Now, I'm going back to 12 fighter 6 monk 2 pally for the extra feat slots in order to fit in GTHF.

    Feats:

    Ranged:

    IC: Ranged
    WF: Ranged
    Bow Strength
    Point Blank shot
    Rapid Shot
    Manyshot

    Melee:

    WF: Slash
    GWF: Slash
    (These two make me want to slit my wrists, what a waste...)
    Weapon Spec: Slash
    IC: Slashing
    Power Attack
    Stunning Blow
    Cleave
    Great Cleave
    Overwhelming crit
    THF
    ITHF
    GTHF

    Monk related:

    Master stance (since adept is free with 6 monk)
    Zen archery

    Completionist

    That's 21 feats not including the epic feats provided at levels 26/28, those will be:

    PTHF
    To be decided

    Twists:

    Turn Undead
    Dance of flowers
    Sense weakness/endless LOH

    What I lose:
    Pin - which sucks, but I got shadow fade and GTHF in return.
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    In build 2 if you remove grandmaster, gws, and ima then it essentially comes down to completionist incorp and icr vs pin. Aren't you better off with pin?

    I think juggernauts make out like bandits though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddong View Post

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    Human Monk 12/Paladin 4/Rogue 4/FOTW
    henshin tier 5 (32 ap, 15-20/x4 stout walking stick)
    A minor thing:
    Last time i checked Staff training and pulverizer didnt stack, 99% sure. So it would be 17-20 x4. Will check it next time lama is up.

    I like 2 and 3, but going for 12/6/2 in version 2 as cetus says makes sense.
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    Easy.


    The one YOU find the most fun playing and not what a bunch of other people think.

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