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    Default What prevents energy/ level drain?

    From the description, it would seem that the pale lavender ioun stone should, but it doesn't. At least, it doesn't all the time; it's possible that some of the charges are used up absorbing incoming Energy Drain spells, but I have been level drained many times while my PLIS still has plenty of remaining charges (as in, more than forty.) The Mantle of the Worldshaper also may work sometimes, but I've been level drained plenty of times while wearing it and while it still has charges.

    Other than getting level drained and getting a Restoration, what else should I be trying?
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    The spell Death Ward works on energy drain.

    I suspect the mantle doesn't work sometime because you may be getting hit by something other than spells. Undead level drain perhaps?

    Level drain - necklace from Necropolis helps (5 or 10 charges depending on upgrade).

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    Consider the concept of using the tangleroot clicky (or another source of deathward) and your PLIS. The boss fight in GOP for example is much less perilous this way. And it works well in many other situations as well.

    In lowbieland there are a few sources of death ward to use. The Silver Flame Pendant comes to mind as well. You could also be WF, or a HOTD 2.
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    I was wondering whether this was a new bug, actually - the ioun stone had previously blocked things like Enervation on me, and sometimes -still does- but a couple of times it stopped working until I unequipped and requipped it, with charges left, while I watched Enervation hit me directly five times in a row. Of course the other question is how a minotaur seer can cast that spell so fast in a row....

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    Plis sometimes doesnt stop neg lvl.

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    The way I see it working is the PLIS stops the dispel kinds of effects (when coming up against beholders) but not the drains. So if I have a deathward on (from the tangleroot clickie) then that doesn't get dispelled and I don't get level drained. Seems to work for me anyway.
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    Did you have another absorption item on at the same time? Having 2 absorption items on at the same time sometimes creates a bug where things are not absorbed.

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    Hopefully if these items aren't working, people are filing bug reports.

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    Things which can help:

    1. Being a Warforged
    2. Wearing a Deathblock item
    3. Using a Deathward clicky or having the spell cast on you
    4. Having a PLIS
    5. Never leaving the Inn. Really, why would you want to leave the inn? Its cold outside. And there may be wolves.

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    - Deathward
    - Being warforged
    - Being in undead form (pale master)
    - Being a tier 2 HotD paladin
    - Silver Flame Necklace

    I generally don't trust PLIS to absorb neg levels.

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    also
    http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Potion_of_Death_Ward

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Gloomy_..._of_Death_Ward

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    Default I like these Death Ward items

    This one is from Tangelroot. You have to do the optional Flesh Render in one of the quest for it to show on the chain end reward list. At higher levels the clickie gives me 20 minutes of Death Ward. They reset when you rest a t a shrine. Some folks will farm several to use when they do quests with few shrines.

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Visor_o..._Render_Guards

    When I get to higher levels I go with Death's Locket. You can get it from PoP, however if you run the epic GH chain the plain Epic version will be an option in the end rewards (not all the time tho).

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Itemeath%27s_Locket_%28Level_23%29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasparion View Post
    Things which can help:

    1. Being a Warforged
    2. Wearing a Deathblock item
    3. Using a Deathward clicky or having the spell cast on you
    4. Having a PLIS
    5. Never leaving the Inn. Really, why would you want to leave the inn? Its cold outside. And there may be wolves.
    Deathblock does NOT prevent negative levels!

    I do not have PLIS so I don't know about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charononus View Post
    Did you have another absorption item on at the same time? Having 2 absorption items on at the same time sometimes creates a bug where things are not absorbed.

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    phiarlen shield
    silver flame necklace
    jeweled cloak
    epic phiarlen mirror cloak
    mantle
    Yep! This was it for me, and what I assumed was the bug. A second absorption item with 0 charges and the PLIS didn't trigger. It has to be the last equipped item, or unequip/requip fixed it, but you know, not until I had 7 neg levels in 5 seconds (?!). Yeah.... I should go bug report it

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    bug should be something like this:

    1- you wear 2+ items with charges of protecting against level drain (say PLIS(30 charge left) and SFP(0 charge left))
    2- you were target by a level drain of any kind
    3- system check if you have items that can absorb it--> yes
    4- system (random?) select the item to use with the attack --> SFP
    5- system try to remove a charge from SFP --> failure, it has 0 charge left
    6- you get the level drain

    part 4 must be fixed...system must select the item you wear with charges left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Livmo View Post
    This one is from Tangelroot. You have to do the optional Flesh Render in one of the quest for it to show on the chain end reward list. At higher levels the clickie gives me 20 minutes of Death Ward. They reset when you rest a t a shrine. Some folks will farm several to use when they do quests with few shrines.

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Visor_o..._Render_Guards

    When I get to higher levels I go with Death's Locket. You can get it from PoP, however if you run the epic GH chain the plain Epic version will be an option in the end rewards (not all the time tho).

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Itemeath%27s_Locket_%28Level_23%29
    I didn't realize the googles gave a 20 minute buff while at higher levels I better check that out.

    Does the Epic Dusk Heart also give a 15minute mass deathward clickie? Anyways good luck to anyone trying to farm that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Book_O_Dragons View Post
    Deathblock does NOT prevent negative levels!

    I do not have PLIS so I don't know about that.
    It does, but only if it's a docent...

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    PLIS has never stopped neg lvls on its own. A negative energy absorption item or a deathward spell are needed. If you are fighting beholders for example, PLIS and a deathward spell will prevent neg lvl damage untill the PLIS is out of charges and the DW has been removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livmo View Post
    You have to do the optional Flesh Render in one of the quest for it to show on the chain end reward list.
    You do not have to do the optional Flesh Render. The goggles can drop without killing it.

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    Beholder Optic Nerves will prevent drains also.

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