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    Default Why no Dwarven God?

    Clerics, Favored Souls, and Paladins have access to one of five deities that grant deity specific bonuses. Three of these deities, however, are race specific: Lord of Blades for Warforged, Undying Court for Elves, and Vulkoor for Drow. Only two are race neutral: Sovereign Host and Silver Flame. These, however, seem to be predominantly human deities because most, if not all, of their in-game representatives are humans. Half-elves has access to either their elven heritage or their human heritage for enhancements and deity.

    That leaves us with three races remaining: half-orcs, halflings, and dwarves. I am not overly concerned about either half-orcs or halflings. Half-orcs are of little concern because, within my recollection of DnD lore, I cannot remember a non-evil orcish deity, and allowing an evil orcish deity would be potentially problematic within the current ddo alignment restrictions (wouldn't it be odd to see a lawful good, half-orc cleric following a chaotic evil god). Nor can i remember any halfling-specific deity. Halflings, rather, always seemed to live in or within close proximity to humans and were more likely to simply follow a human deity.

    There was, however, always a dwarven deity. So, why is a dwarven deity lacking in DDO? Is there any possibility of adding one for clerics, favored souls, and paladins in the (near) future?

    (The introduction of a dwarven deity could be paired well with a forgotten realms quest pack or expansion: An ancient red dragon is gathering his forces to seize control of the breach between ebberon and the forgotten realms; the dwarves were the first to respond; join them in beseeching the assistance of the metallic dragons and defeating the red dragon's draconic armada. Just a thought.)

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    Knowing Turbine, dwarven god would have sickle as a favored weapon, or a handaxe at best.
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    There is a dwarven god. His name is Onatar, and he's part of the Sovereign Host. Of course, his followers aren't exclusively dwarves, nor do dwarves only worship him. But then again, if that bothers you, perhaps Eberron isn't the setting you're looking for.

    And on that note, one of the iconics automatically follows a FR deity, so I see no reason they can't expand the list with FR deities, now that it'd actually make sense to do so.
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    There's no Dwarven God because Dwarves are Goddless little gorms at the best of times.

    Sure there are Dwarven Favored Souls and Clerics but they get their magic from "magic mushrooms" that only grow on a toxic compost blend of Dwarven **** and mead.

    So away with you little Heathen.... AWAY!




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    Here is some more info for you on deities in the Eberron setting. Hope this helps!

    I doubt it, but perhaps with the obnoxious blending of Forgotten Realms and Eberron that Turbine decided was best, we'll see Forgotten Realms deities come on to the scene.
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    Default Because

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    Tongue in cheek answer:

    Because it's BEER! And we all know crazy parents incapable of raising their own children will freak out and stop paying the subs and sue if we glorify BEER even though that is what the dwarves really kinda do worship....and I hate the taste of excessively...lol
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    Cool Dwarves! Y U NO WORSHIP DEITY?

    Because dwarves are so friggin awesome, deities worship them!

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    Dwarves have a lot of gods...

    Ho'ray Die Munds; The goddess of gems

    Ey' lurve Ro'ques; The master of the mines in the mountains.

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    Thor was to drunk to answer the Dwarven calls when they were coding in the Gods. He'll regret it someday I'm sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLegendOfAra View Post
    Thor was to drunk to answer the Dwarven calls when they were coding in the Gods. He'll regret it someday I'm sure.
    Thor has nothing to do with it, besides according to the norse Dvergar (dwarves) is used interchangably with Svartálfar (Dark Elves) So all dwarves are actually Drow.

    Other than the drow comment this information is based on the Eddas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leistes View Post
    There was, however, always a dwarven deity. So, why is a dwarven deity lacking in DDO? Is there any possibility of adding one for clerics, favored souls, and paladins in the (near) future?
    Because Eberron has no major Dwarven faith, the way that it has uniquely Elven, Drow, or War Forged faiths. And the inclusion of the Better-off-Forgotten Realms was bad enough without also bringing in their bland and generic deities.

    The Enhancement Pass would have been the perfect time to make Cleric's, Favored Soul's, and Paladin's choice of Faith a more important aspect of the character, with some form of Domains being implemented. But since Turbine has decided to forgo that route, it seems unlikely that such things are in the cards for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOTHdha View Post
    Because Eberron has no major Dwarven faith, the way that it has uniquely Elven, Drow, or War Forged faiths. And the inclusion of the Better-off-Forgotten Realms was bad enough without also bringing in their bland and generic deities.
    Technically, Vulkoor is not a major deity in Eberron. Most scholars take him as an aspect of The Mockery. I believe he was added just because we are in drow land (Xen'drik).

    I would totally love if we had the option to choose any member of the Host as our main deity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charononus View Post
    Thor has nothing to do with it...
    That was probably an Order of the Stick reference, that party's cleric is a dwarf who worships Thor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gate-keeper View Post
    That was probably an Order of the Stick reference, that party's cleric is a dwarf who worships Thor.
    Ah missed it, I've only read a couple of those and while I keep meaning to look it up and read more as the couple I've read were funny, I keep forgetting to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrinityTurtle View Post
    Tongue in cheek answer:

    Because it's BEER! And we all know crazy parents incapable of raising their own children will freak out and stop paying the subs and sue if we glorify BEER even though that is what the dwarves really kinda do worship....and I hate the taste of excessively...lol

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