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    Default Available for testing, though perhaps not intentionally.

    Just wanted to point out that all Iconic Heroes can be created. Despite still being grayed out, you can create a character. The story lines look interesting at first glance.

    PDK has no racial modifiers to stats -- no human free feat (just fighter class feat and initial feat).
    Morninglord has -2con/+2int (confused bout the int... not wis?) -- inital feat and racial (read faith, can only chose Amunator...)
    Shadar-Kai has -2cha/+2dex -- only initial feat.

    Other things noticed, could not chose dragonmarks in "creation forge" at level 1 -- but were available in the test dojo at later levels... not sure what is intended there.

    PDK enhancement line is human line with a few perks that have already been mentioned.
    Shadar-Kai line looks like a new line of enhancements, but I only had time to glance at it.
    Morninglord line looks like exactly the same line as Elf enhancements, again, only had time to glance at it.

    I'll post more after work, provided others haven't already posted more details and of course provided that my new iconic's are still there.
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    Dragonmarks are not intended to be available to characters born outside Eberron (neither on character creation nor later on).

    Every iconic has a custom racial tree, which usually overlaps with a similar race, but every iconic has some racially unique abilities.

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    Yes, it is intended that Iconic heroes are available to play on Lamannia now. We've got feedback threads as well for them.
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    Really can't wait to get home and test these

    Kind of hope the morning lord feat isn't that

    +2 int/-2 con would be bad for a cleric... really bad...
    also, if that's -2 con on top of the normal 6 con... yeah...

    shadarkai- been wanting to test this, +dex sounds great. makes sense that shadarkai wouldn't get a human racial

    PDK- not sure about, but will at least test it. Think they should get a human bonus feat though.

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    I love to use the Silver Flame Favored Soul capstone as a SLA for my Exalted Angel.

    I am concerned that this necessary SLA will not be available for Fawngate as a Morning Lord which she want to be.

    Exalted Angel requires a certain amount of light spells to be cast, will this still be functional?
    Currently there are so few, and nimbus of light is bugged not counting (yes I bug reported it) that clerics cannot use Exalted Angel properly.

    {Divine punishment no longer provides a counter for each tick, just when first cast.}

    The favored soul archon helps a lot there, but I would like to add the morning lord sunburst to my SLAs not trade it
    for searing light SLA.

    Please consider adding a light SLA to Favored Souls particularly if one loses the Silver Flame SLA with Morninglord iconics.

    Does the new forgotten realms faith has a favored soul capstone?
    If so, what is it?

    Thanks for listening, and good job on Divine Disciple, I knew you could do it.
    Good luck with Warpriest!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverleafeon View Post
    I love to use the Silver Flame Favored Soul capstone as a SLA for my Exalted Angel.

    I am concerned that this necessary SLA will not be available for Fawngate as a Morning Lord which she want to be.

    Exalted Angel requires a certain amount of light spells to be cast, will this still be functional?
    Currently there are so few, and nimbus of light is bugged not counting (yes I bug reported it) that clerics cannot use Exalted Angel properly.

    {Divine punishment no longer provides a counter for each tick, just when first cast.}

    The favored soul archon helps a lot there, but I would like to add the morning lord sunburst to my SLAs not trade it
    for searing light SLA.

    Please consider adding a light SLA to Favored Souls particularly if one loses the Silver Flame SLA with Morninglord iconics.

    Does the new forgotten realms faith has a favored soul capstone?
    If so, what is it?

    Thanks for listening, and good job on Divine Disciple, I knew you could do it.
    Good luck with Warpriest!
    Not sure i understand you here...

    Morninglord will be restricted to aumantor- Can't really change this, otherwise they wouldn't be morninglords.

    Next, i could be wrong, but i thought the morninglord had to take first level cleric. Would be pretty awesome if they could be FVS too, though. But if they're restricted to lvl 1 cleric, than they will never be able to hit lvl 20. and you wind up with weird splashes (though just thought of a 12/5/3 fvs/cleric/monk build that spends all its points in angel of vengeance, divine disciple, and henshin/shintao, will have to test this)

    Also, i don't think aumantor would have an FVS capstone yet, because there currently isn't anyway for an iconic to be a pure FVS, they must choose fighter (PDK), rogue(shararkai), paladin(bladeforged), or cleric(morninglord).

    Though i will agree that FVS's need some SLA's in their tree, if only because FVS's don't get to do any significant spell damage until 12 when they get archon and BB.

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    They will be able to lesser reincarnate with a +1 heart in due time.

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    Sun elf int bonus and int enhancements make no sense on a cleric. Add to that dex to damage with blunt weapons, is just so bizarre.


    Here is the wacky breakdown=
    1. Racial bonus and enhancement bonus to intelligence
    2. Class that uses wisdom for DCs
    3. Enhancement that uses dex for damage


    None of them go together!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverleafeon View Post
    They will be able to lesser reincarnate with a +1 heart in due time.
    And if they don't... Are you willing to gimp your uber completionist toon into a dead-end with no way to reincarnate if for some reason they don't roll out Iconic reincarnation the way you hope they will?

    Sorry but I am not TR'ing any of my multi-lifers into an Iconic until TR for Iconics is explained... actually not until it makes it to live status... I will believe it when I see it. I am not going to put 6+ years invested at risk. No offense to Developers :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hirmor View Post
    And if they don't... Are you willing to gimp your uber completionist toon into a dead-end with no way to reincarnate if for some reason they don't roll out Iconic reincarnation the way you hope they will?

    Sorry but I am not TR'ing any of my multi-lifers into an Iconic until TR for Iconics is explained... actually not until it makes it to live status... I will believe it when I see it. I am not going to put 6+ years invested at risk. No offense to Developers :-)
    You can't TR into an Iconic until they put in TR'ing for iconics so I think you're worrying about something needlessly.
    You guys filibustering a new mode have already succeeded in scaring the Dev's into not doing it the right way and re-scaling the existing settings, why in the world are you still filibustering? Drunk on your success? Schadenfreude? Spitefulness?

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    Can you test the Iconics if you haven't purchased the expansion yet? Because I can't seem to and I haven't purchased the expansion yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ionien View Post
    Can you test the Iconics if you haven't purchased the expansion yet? Because I can't seem to and I haven't purchased the expansion yet.
    I would like to know about this as well. I am very confused if beta testers are supposed to be able to test them or not, some people have said that you don't need the expansion, but before actually using the lamannia server, I saw somewhere that you do need the expansion pack to do anything related to it. So which is true? And if we can test the Iconics without the expansion, how do we do it, anytime that I try to create an Iconic, the create button never highlights at the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverleafeon View Post
    They will be able to lesser reincarnate with a +1 heart in due time.
    I fully expect that even with LR+1 or even TR, an iconic life will always be required to take level 1 in its native class. In other words, I expect that you will never, under any circumstances, be able to make a morninglord with 20 FVS levels. (Similarly, never a level 20 sorc bladeforged, etc...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saitarou View Post
    I would like to know about this as well. I am very confused if beta testers are supposed to be able to test them or not, some people have said that you don't need the expansion, but before actually using the lamannia server, I saw somewhere that you do need the expansion pack to do anything related to it. So which is true? And if we can test the Iconics without the expansion, how do we do it, anytime that I try to create an Iconic, the create button never highlights at the end.
    Iirc, you can get TP from Sir Pointsalot and buy xpack from DDO Store - search "beta". This is for Lam only, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tscheuss View Post
    Iirc, you can get TP from Sir Pointsalot and buy xpack from DDO Store - search "beta". This is for Lam only, though.
    I followed your steps, and I still can not create an Iconic character. It still gives me an option to purchase it, but when you click get now or the gold DDO Store Icon, it brings up no results. I did a search for "beta" and purchased the two packs that were available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saitarou View Post
    I followed your steps, and I still can not create an Iconic character. It still gives me an option to purchase it, but when you click get now or the gold DDO Store Icon, it brings up no results. I did a search for "beta" and purchased the two packs that were available.
    Hmm. Did you try restarting the client after buying the beta packs? And was one of the beta packs Shadowfell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ionien View Post
    Can you test the Iconics if you haven't purchased the expansion yet? Because I can't seem to and I haven't purchased the expansion yet.
    I was on during one of he Dev events on friday and I asked Kookie if I could get access to the iconics. Next thing I know I get a tell saying that I now had access to iconics. So, other than askng a dev while they're online.... pre-ordering the expansion is the only other way I know of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tscheuss View Post
    Hmm. Did you try restarting the client after buying the beta packs? And was one of the beta packs Shadowfell?
    Yes I did restart the client after buying, and none of the beta packs were shadowfell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saitarou View Post
    Yes I did restart the client after buying, and none of the beta packs were shadowfell
    Sorry to hear. I cannot think of anything else but to ask a dev.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverleafeon View Post
    I love to use the Silver Flame Favored Soul capstone as a SLA for my Exalted Angel.

    I am concerned that this necessary SLA will not be available for Fawngate as a Morning Lord which she want to be.

    Exalted Angel requires a certain amount of light spells to be cast, will this still be functional?
    Currently there are so few, and nimbus of light is bugged not counting (yes I bug reported it) that clerics cannot use Exalted Angel properly.

    {Divine punishment no longer provides a counter for each tick, just when first cast.}

    The favored soul archon helps a lot there, but I would like to add the morning lord sunburst to my SLAs not trade it
    for searing light SLA.

    Please consider adding a light SLA to Favored Souls particularly if one loses the Silver Flame SLA with Morninglord iconics.

    Does the new forgotten realms faith has a favored soul capstone?
    If so, what is it?

    Thanks for listening, and good job on Divine Disciple, I knew you could do it.
    Good luck with Warpriest!

    Morninglords shouldnt get access to Silver flame they arent natives of Eberron and should get their own unique capstone

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