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    Thumbs down Thats not nice Turbine

    It seems like they want to boost there Iconics. With the Otto Stones you where right 1 lvl over the Ivconics and with a Pot you where like not far awy from 20. Now the Stones get less important for most of the players.

    It not fine Turbine that you didnt wroth in a not that pots and other stuff dont stack any more. Hope that people read that and dont buy the boxes anymore....

    Hope my Otto Stones still work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    Bonus sources of XP do not stack with the Stone of Experience provided in the Bigby's Handy Box.
    Huh... you just seriously hurt the Bigby's stone value and cut into your sale of 50% XP pots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    Bonus sources of XP do not stack with the Stone of Experience provided in the Bigby's Handy Box.
    Good thinking. Wouldn't want people to get back to what they enjoy playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    Bonus sources of XP do not stack with the Stone of Experience provided in the Bigby's Handy Box.
    Damn, and I was gearing up to buy several. Oh well, more money to spend on other hobbies
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    Everybody seems to be assuming that future Otto's stones won't be "fixed" too.

    That may be a valid assumption or it may not be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDOTalk71 View Post
    Level 16-19 "end game"? What year is this? 2009? With the cap at 25, end game is epic. Not mid/upper heroic levels.
    I was going to ask that, too. Enough xp to dump you near the steep end of the XP curve on your TR.

    yah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arminius View Post
    Everybody seems to be assuming that future Otto's stones won't be "fixed" too.

    That may be a valid assumption or it may not be.
    Either way, i just went from buying 3 to debating whether or not to buy 1 to make TR'ing my arti go easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    Bonus sources of XP do not stack with the Stone of Experience provided in the Bigby's Handy Box.
    Wow.. You guys just shot yourselves in the foot with this decision!

    Thanks for making this somewhat appealing offer worth about 2 million less xp! Makes the decision not to buy them SO much easier.
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    Thank you Cordovan for quick and informative answers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    Bonus sources of XP do not stack with the Stone of Experience provided in the Bigby's Handy Box.
    Thank you for answering honestly.

    I think I'll not buy a box. Not worth it if I can't stack exp to make a 3rd+ lifer less of a grind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    Bonus sources of XP do not stack with the Stone of Experience provided in the Bigby's Handy Box.
    LOL - pay to lose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    Bonus sources of XP do not stack with the Stone of Experience provided in the Bigby's Handy Box.
    Initial plan: Buy four boxes.

    Current plan: Buy zero boxes.
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    Hmmm . . . I wonder how much i can sell my Otto's Box for now . . .

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    I wonder what a court would say to this XD

    well, lets see, you implemented those boxes? - yes
    and the bonus xp were applied?- yes
    then u took them off, and reapplied them with the bug, that is not listed as one? - umm yes
    and you did that how often? - erm like 2 or 3 times?
    and now you take the item, that people bought WITH that property, and change it, without notifying it is a bug, or any warning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    Bonus sources of XP do not stack with the Stone of Experience provided in the Bigby's Handy Box.
    OP here. Cordovan, thank you for addressing my question quickly. It's even more appreciated understanding the answer was not a popular one.

    On another note, I would have bought two+ had the Otto's XP mechanics worked here, and now I probably won't buy any. The XP hump is just too much between levels 15-20 to make it worthwhile. I have purchased Otto's boxes before, but it was mainly for the XP my toons received *past* level 16, not for the XP *up* to level 16.

    On yet another note, I wonder if this decision is a precursor to the XP curve-smoothing referenced here:

    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleFooz View Post
    Very soon we’ll be opening Lamannia with the newest version of Enhancements. Included in that version of the game code are several new features and changes coming to quest XP in the expansion. We wanted to highlight what’s coming with a very early write up, because the changes that you’ll see on Lamannia are not yet ready for testing, and include a lot of place-holder numbers. Today we wanted to talk about the changes so that you have some insight into what features are coming:

    We’ve previously mentioned in our Reincarnation discussions that we’ll be reworking the XP curve to be less steep for 2nd and 3rd life reincarnations. Those curves will be ameliorated, so that the increase in XP needed to level isn’t such a drastic increase in the 15-20 range, and so that the lower level ranges require move XP to level.

    One of the other changes we are working on for the upcoming Expansion release is a change to the way quest repetition XP penalty works. Currently whenever you repeat the same quest over and over, the XP degrades until the quest permanently gives little to no XP. With the Expansion, we will allow the penalty to reset after a grace period, similar to the way chest loot ransack works.

    Next a new daily bonus is being added to quest completions. Every day, a quest will have a bonus added to the base XP value. Playing the quest on any difficulty level qualifies for this daily bonus.

    Finally, we will be adding a new way to receive bonus XP: Sagas. New NPCs will be arriving in Eberron and Faerûn who chronicle the deeds of heroes across multiple story archs/adventure packs. By completing all the quests in a given Saga, you can speak with the Saga NPC to claim an extra reward such as a large one-time XP grant, guild XP, or even tomes. The quality of those rewards can also be influenced by running the quests on higher difficulties.

    We are still refining what the final numbers will be for these changes and bonuses, and as we get closer to Expansion launch day we will go into greater detail. The version that will appear on Lamannia is not meant for testing, and is there merely because we have taken an early game build to continue Enhancements review with players. You’re welcome to provide feedback on what you see, but it is not something Lamannia participants should focus on because it is still a work in progress.

    We hope you’ve enjoyed this early look, as we’d like to continue these types of posts to let players peek behind the DM screen a bit more ahead of Shadowfell Conspiracy.

    - PurpleFooz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    Bonus sources of XP do not stack with the Stone of Experience provided in the Bigby's Handy Box.
    That's an unfortunate decision. The Stone of Experience in Otto's Box is far, far superior.
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    This thread is full of P2WIN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    Bonus sources of XP do not stack with the Stone of Experience provided in the Bigby's Handy Box.
    Really Turbine? For me it is the 1 million xp from 18-20 that sells the stones.

    Iconic TR stone is meh.

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    someone told me in game that this nice new stone just leveled him up only to 14 . can someone confirm this?
    Last edited by Rendron; 07-03-2013 at 04:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendron View Post
    there was some1 telling me in game that this nice new stone just lvl you up to lvl 14 right now. kan some1 confirm this?

    best offer no pot and stuff stacks and a lvl less than its in the text stands
    To be honest, I can hardly read what you wrote. Can you clean it up please?

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