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    Default Stone of Change versus Repeating Heavy Crossbow

    Hey gang,

    I did a search for this, but something must be wrong with the search function, because I'm not getting relevant answers.

    So I stuck my heavy repeater into a Stone of Change along with a pile of Khyber Dragonshard fragments, making sure the crossbow was unlocked and not equipped. I pushed the cruncher button, and....Nothing happened. The cruncher crunched, then failed to attune/bind the weapon to me.

    Am I not allowed to attune/bind a repeating heavy crossbow for some reason? I don't think I've ever attuned a ranged weapon before, is it disallowed?
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    I just bound a Heavy Repeating Crossbow a minute ago. Nothing unusual, just placed it in stone of change with khyber dragonshard fragments. It's BTA randomly generated if it matters.

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    Really? Hmmm. Mine is definitely not working, just tried it again.

    +1 Repeating Heavy Crossbow of Lacerating (Slicing/Bleed)

    It's a BtC weapon, but it is not attuned. I even tried applying the Force Damage Ritual on it, but it won't apply.
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    Daft question but did you have enough Khyber shards to do it with? You probably did have enough but it's the only thing I can think of

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    To add to Stoner's comment, are you sticking 400+ shards in it? There was a bug a while back where no-ML items were requiring 400 shards. Not sure if fixed...

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    trying to add a Ritual to a Non-Bond item will fail so the force ritual attempt was doomed to fail.

    The only thing that I could see as being the problem is the quantity of the Khyber Dragonshards. I generally stick a pile of 1K to 2.5K in knowing that not all will be used but it will be covered.

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    Plenty of shards. It's an ML2 item, so I'd only need four. I stuck in about 250 or so (my entire stack). I guess I could try again when I have a full 400, but it really shouldn't be necessary as I understand it.

    Enoach: Yeah, I know. I only tried because it was a BtC item, so I figured perhaps the stone already considered it "Attuned" for some reason. It was a long shot, I know, and I didn't expect it to work. And it didn't

    Is it because it's a named item? Can you do rituals on named items? I thought you could, but perhaps I am wrong about that.
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    Let's see if I can get this to work:

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    And the results....

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    This is the crossbow I attuned this morning. It's BTA because I obtained it from an Into the Deep end reward list. Sorry, I didn't see how many shard fragments were used.

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    Well, that's pretty similar to mine. I can't figure out if "Of Lacerating" is a randomly generated effect or if it is a named item effect (you cannot make an "Of Lacerating" shard in the Cannith crafting system). And in any event, that really shouldn't make any difference (especially since you were able to attune it). I wonder if the ML2 thing is not picking up, and it is requiring 400 shards rather than 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    Well, that's pretty similar to mine. I can't figure out if "Of Lacerating" is a randomly generated effect or if it is a named item effect (you cannot make an "Of Lacerating" shard in the Cannith crafting system). And in any event, that really shouldn't make any difference (especially since you were able to attune it). I wonder if the ML2 thing is not picking up, and it is requiring 400 shards rather than 4.
    of Lacerating is a random effect. Named items can be attuned. I would try with a bigger stack of shards (purplish ones).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerincho View Post
    of Lacerating is a random effect. Named items can be attuned. I would try with a bigger stack of shards (purplish ones).
    Thanks Lericcho. I wonder why you can't make that shard in Cannith? It's a very useful effect, heh. Oh well, beside the point.

    I'll try again with a stack of 400 shards once I have them. But why? ML2 items should only require 4, not 400!
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    Same reason you cannot do vorpal, disruption, banishing, or many other effects; broken/incomplete crafting system.
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    would def try 400 shards
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    wasn't there a bug that affects the binding ritual so it uses the maximium amount of shards to bind instead of the ML^2 forumula?
    still didn't get fixed i guess?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    Well, that's pretty similar to mine. I can't figure out if "Of Lacerating" is a randomly generated effect or if it is a named item effect (you cannot make an "Of Lacerating" shard in the Cannith crafting system). And in any event, that really shouldn't make any difference (especially since you were able to attune it). I wonder if the ML2 thing is not picking up, and it is requiring 400 shards rather than 4.
    Regardless of the minimum level you need 400. This sounds like the issue to me.
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    Yeah, that was the problem. Binding the xbow required 400 shards rather than 4. Nothing like a bug that increases the cost of performing a ritual by two orders of magnitude
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    Yeah, that was the problem. Binding the xbow required 400 shards rather than 4. Nothing like a bug that increases the cost of performing a ritual by two orders of magnitude
    Yep, yet another bug that has been around forever. But bugs that remain unfixed forever are OK because I can get a flying cat pet :}

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL View Post
    Yep, yet another bug that has been around forever. But bugs that remain unfixed forever are OK because I can get a flying cat pet :}
    Remember: Beneficial Bugs get fixed IMMEDIATELY.

    Therefore- you simply need to "complain" about it in the right way....

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    It's a GOOD THING you need 400 shards to bind a weapon. That beneficial bug unknowingly helps us get rid of all these shards that are taking up space in our packs. GOOD THING they don't do anything about that bug.

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