I'm gonna add that I think hirelings are fantastic.
Yes, they have issues that cause them to die alot.... mostly standing too close to high damaging monsters.... a close second is whatever it is that makes them go braindead and not heal for long periods of time....(part of this may be the former problem and failing concentration checks)
.. but in general, they work very well IMO. Babysit better than many live players do. (although they cannot approach the value if a well played healer)
I hate standing around all day.
I also hate putting up LFMs and having to deal with some random guy joining and then telling me what we need to complete the quest...or other whining about "my" LFM/group/leading...etc.
So I quiet often two and three man quests with friends and hires.
In general my friends and I are self healing anyway, but I find it much more enjoyable to not have to worry as much about my health or to use a lot of my own scrolls and pots. (I have two rez clickies for the hires. )
Another note: hard to remember my thought process seven years ago... but my first toon was a Rgr mutt back when the cap was 10.
I don't remember being particularly needy of having a healer with me in a group.
I do remember being poor.. using wands becausse they were cheaper.... sometimes not being able to afford wands....
Soon I made alts.... some were Ftrs. Several times I remember having to stay back and range because of lack of healing.....
Didn't take me too long to try to become totally self sufficient. (also to realise that Cure Light wands are very cheap.... )
I remember many times wand-whipping a party to victory, because we did no thave a healer, or the healer was out of mana.
I also learned that the best groups, or at least the least needy ones seemed to have a lot of Rangers in them...
As the game evolved other classes became more self sufficient...
But what I saw was a trend that a PUG with an odd mix of classes... many times with no Cleric.... (but less Ftrs and Brbs) would do very well.
People kept puttin gup LFMs for tank.... for healers.... but I saw groups without either do very well.
Part of this was the mindset of the players who would do a quest with an odd mix of classes.
The general beleif at the time was you needed thi sperfect party mix to comlete anything difficult....
But those players who just said "let's go" with whatever we had always made things work ... with ease.
Again.. it wasn't the clsses... although they did tend to play self sufficicnet classes.... like Rangers.
Soon the "exploiter" build caught on..... Many of my favorite players still play exploiters.
Love that "no healer" ToD run I was priviladged to be a part of a few years back...
Anyway.. in short... I have been a fan of self sufficiency long before BYOH became popular.
But.. BYOH.... is not usually th eplaystyle I enjoy actually....
Because BYOH seems to mean "every man for himself"....
This is not what I enjoy.. or promoted on the forums years before most players became self sufficient...
What I liked, wanted, and pushed for was for people just to run with whatever class joins and then heal each other to the best of their abilities.
I loved those parties that did not have a Cleric, yet when someone got cursed there were three people racing to be the first to use their wands and remove the other guy's curse. (seemed to be a sense of pride to show off that they could do this and not need a Cleric)
That is what I want!
... and lead the noobs by example.
any decent player is going to start wondering why he is th eonly guy in the group with a low HP bar.... how everyone else keeps healing up.
anyone with self pride is going to want to no tbe a sponge..... "I wanna be like those guys!"
Group with them.
If you feel the need to suggest they buy pots...etc.... do so nicely.... I've been known to comment that somone was "an expensive date". lol. I said so jokingly and light heartedly, but I was trying to point out that I was spending a lot of my own money on resources to keep them alive... or rezzed....etc.
But if they really are too much of a sponge, just pretend you are out of wands or scrolls.... (I actually only carry 10 res scrolls at a time, because if I use more than that on a group there is something wrong... and I don't need to go broke because of bad players....)