I hear lots of people saying "hold a level, hold a level" and yada yada...
I get "meh".... I never held any levels, except a few exceptions where I didn't want to make a party member have a xp penalty because my over-level.
And no, I don't have all the packs (at higher levels, I only have Reavers Refuge, Vale, IQ, Reign of Madness), and my TRd sorc is currently at level 18 on a 3rd life.
I know I can level with not much of a problem here and there, and I will not hold a level for that matter.
What I do like is to enjoy the spells and feats I get when leveling up. If I hold a level "just because", I don't have these "goodies". Thats no fun for me. I like to level up. I like to get new spells and feats. I like to have a bit more SP and HP.
Yes you can level way faster when level 19 is hold back, but... Some people are here for the game enjoyment, and some are here for the fast game enjoyment. I work and play at normal speed, FYI.
To the OP, just look everywhere and watch your adventure list, I'm sure you can do more xp easily, if you have all the packs. Just remember most high level explorer areas go way beyond 750 slayers (1500 and 3000 and some go up to 7000 kills).
Farm some of those kills per day and you end up ranking fast. Not to mention the other suggestions here that others have said
[Nemessi sorcerer][Helenya cleric][Riita cleric][Myrhea artificer][Shunrei monk][Sverlana rogue][Lillyannn paladin]
Any person that TR's not once, but TWICE either plays solo and obviously uses the wiki and other resources, and knows all about TR, or they run with people that do.
Op is nothing more than a troll post in my opinion. Someone, in some cesspool or other did an experiment on a third life TR, and it is possible to once and done on elite everything and cap a third life (or so they claimed if I remember it right).
And other than claiming that "750 kills in all explorers so there is nothing left from them" (to paraphrase) was a dead give away.
making accusations such as laughing in peoples faces, or mocking them is what is pretty juvenile, especially when bringing martial arts into a forum thread.
Have a good evening.
Also, assuming that someone inherently knows the best TR path is just stupid. You don't need a specific leveling path to do a first lifer, and even 2nd life is pretty doable without grinding or planning. So if you're not prepared for that kick of how much grinding you need to do, and how, when and where you need to do it, it's gonna be difficult. And knowledge on that grind isn't going to reveal itself if you've only played first and 2nd life characters. New players don't become vets of elite quests the moment they master quests on normal difficulty, you actually have to run elite before you can be a skilled player at it. Same thing with TR.
Also assuming that if he groups, that he's with TRs that are totally going to explain the grind is another flawed argument. Not everyone you group with is a TR, not all of them have methods to leveling that they can teach you, and (in pugs especially) your party members have no reason to share leveling plans even if they did have them, unless you ask. Do new players instantly become skilled vets the moment they join a pug or guild with a vet in it (yep, repeating analogies )? No, it takes actual experience playing.
Assuming that because someone uses the wiki to help with quests that they also inherently have seen the best quests to grind...I use the wiki rather religiously (admittedly more for planning builds/gear than quests) and have never accidentally come across a leveling guide. Once again with that analogy...I used the wiki starting from around a month after I started playing. And I look back on those days, and whoa, I was a newb. Wiki is not everything.
As for doing everything for elite streak on a 3rd life, I did that on my bard life, with the exception of a handful of raids (shroud, abbot, hox, DQ2 etc those ones you don't normally see elite streak groups for). I quickly got behind, elite streaking quests the same level as me, rather than 2 below, and had to find some way to catch up. No tome, and not many low level packs, but I did have all the high level packs at the time except the u15 pack which came out as I was leveling.
750 kills in an explorer area is not trolling, imagine running through the explorer to get to 1500 without farming a specific set of mobs. Just clearing through the entire explorer and resetting. It will take a while, and obviously not everyone wants to bore themselves on the same stuff just to hit level 20. Maybe try getting more than 750 on somewhere other than vale or orchard, where afaik there are no easy groups of large spawns to farm. Like shavarath, house C, mount reysalon, the prey on the hunter place or subterrane. I actually knew how to farm saomi gardens and eerie forest and only got them to 750 because doing the same rares more than around ten times just got mind grating. Same with doing the same quest that many times.
Last edited by ZeebaNeighba; 06-27-2013 at 12:40 AM.
The worst thing is that once you find that out, it's probably already too late...
In your shoes, I would :
Advertise where and who I am on the forums, incase a forum pro is willing to help you
Collect Explorer zone points.
Go back into level 14/15/16 quests on the highest difficulty you can easily complete them on. seriously, whilst not the best xp by forum standards, they're worth repeating for those less able.
Look at my monster manuals to see if i'm close to getting XP bonuses.
TR'ing can be brutal between 18-20, with practice you'll get better, and there's no shame in asking for help.
while this hasn't happened to me yet, i am extremely paranoid of it happening thats why as low as lvl 4, i am already banking XP and only ever do quests that are 2 levels lower than i am for elite bravery bonus.
If you have the MOTU expansion then i believe Challenges don't have XP decay and each one can give an avg of 5000. Luckily you only have about 100k to go so thats about 20 more runs on avg or 20 more quests.
If you do buy the Cannith pack, you could probably squeeze 100k out of that, same with Vault of the Artificers currently on sale could also give you non-decaying XP
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