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    Question Needed: A 34 point Human Bard build that I will have fun with. (x-post, because...)

    I'm putting this in General Discussion because since the forum changed, the people using the forums has dropped to an all time low. bumping my old post in the Bard section didnt do anything either. Not sure what Turbine is trying to do but they are gonna improve the game and forums right into the ground. (/rant)

    Needed: A 34 point Human Bard build that I will have fun with.

    I have a human bard with a FvS past life and I havent used my free LR yet.

    She uses Greatswords because I had so many cool ones lying around and I made her a Warchanter. The problem is that she isnt any fun to play. She never actually gets to do anything bard like besides a few buffs at the start. It seems that no one has the patience for me to play any CC songs.

    She has only just made level 12 and has +2 Tomes for every stat.
    My goal in this game is to get every class to 20. I have lots of characters and only have bard and pally to go. Im stuck and really need help.

    I would prefer not to multiclass her but will if it will make her fun or interesting to play. At the moment she just sits there.
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    If you're looking for something that will let you "be a bard", I think you might be out of luck....not that there's anything wrong with the bard class, per se, but the game itself (especially Heroic) just doesnt lend itself to "classic bard" kinda gameplay. There just isnt any reason to - you can already blow through most content without needing to wait for CCs and buffs and such. Why charm monsters when you can just kill them all? Why wait for a buff when you're already more than powerful enough to zerg the mission?

    Bards are basically just another source of melee DPS who can pop occasional heals and the odd GH...being an occasional Inspire Courage buffbot is probably the closest you'll get to "classic bard" gameplay.

    If you want to play mostly with groups, you might be better off taking a Fighter splash or something and improving your melee DPS...Cleave/GC and the THF line, for example. If you want to solo, then you can take your time and have fun with your CCs and stuff, but of course playing solo, all your buffing ability is then largely wasted...

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    Quote Originally Posted by droid327 View Post
    Why wait for a buff when you're already more than powerful enough to zerg the mission?
    I never wait for more than AOE spells like Haste and Rage. Most of the songs are fairly long range and will generally hit the party members while they run. So don't stand there, run and sing on the way to the enemies. Likewise with single-target buff spells. Don't stand there, cast on the run. I enjoy having a smart well-built Bard in the party. Inspire Courage is a pretty large damage increase and Fascinated enemies, especially in Epic content, can make the quests so much easier.
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    My most recent bard, which is turning out to be pretty good fun, is currently bard 11/ranger 2/rogue 2, with the arcane archer line. He's virtuoso prestige, and can do all the traps with the right gear.

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    I posted up the bard build that I did a couple of times on our guild forum and then posted it on the Ghallanda forum.

    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...her-bard-build

    Ignore the sarcasm in some of it, I was trying to explain to a muppet that just because you come up with something doesn't mean that you invented it .... especially when thousands of people have done it before you

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    I dont play bards but my friend does, and after palying SS and Warchanter - he not long ago capped Virtuoso.
    Virtuoso with good enough strenght to be efficient with SoS.
    I think its the best option right now .

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    Quote Originally Posted by humbleroller View Post
    She uses Greatswords because I had so many cool ones lying around and I made her a Warchanter. The problem is that she isnt any fun to play. She never actually gets to do anything bard like besides a few buffs at the start. It seems that no one has the patience for me to play any CC songs.
    That is just the pace of the game. Been told Epic is different but haven't seen it really. Slightly slower, yes. But Epic N/H is still in full farm mode.

    She has only just made level 12 and has +2 Tomes for every stat.
    My goal in this game is to get every class to 20. I have lots of characters and only have bard and pally to go. Im stuck and really need help.

    I would prefer not to multiclass her but will if it will make her fun or interesting to play. At the moment she just sits there.
    Thanks.
    Unless you plan on going Spellsinger or Virtuoso there is no reason to stay pure. Virtuoso is very powerful at 21+ so staying pure is not a bad idea. As far as Feats and stuff... PA, Cleave, G.Cleave and all level ups into STR is easy to manage to 20.

    As far as DPS, you should be equal to most melee thanks to your songs +x damage, haste, rage, and the ability to use UMD. Your squishier than a pure fighter/barbarian but I prefer to contribute, not compare myself to them. And I usually beat one or both classes anyways because utility/playstyle out performs one trick ponies.

    • Heals can keep yourself up or the healer (Because dead people create no DPS)
    • I am always in range of Rage/Haste (People not in the "circle" get left out)
    • You play more cautious knowing you don't have the HP's (meaning you take less traps to the face, NPC attention/agro because your second or third into the fight).
    • UMD allows you to have Stone Skin, full BAB, as well as other goodies making the lower DPS marginal at best. Rezzing the Barbarian/Fighter is always a good way to make friends. Or the cleric

    Personally my Bard is 8/2 Brad/Fighter with the final product being 16/4 WC (Maybe Virtuoso, but not sure how strong song CC by itself will be).

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    Quote Originally Posted by humbleroller View Post
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    Needed: A 34 point Human Bard build that I will have fun with.

    I have a human bard with a FvS past life and I havent used my free LR yet.
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    My advice: TR into a Shiradi Warforged Sorcerer and you'll be having a much simpler and easier life. Better self healing, better spells, better DPS, better grouper, and better soloing.

    If you like pain being a bard, try the Ram Bow bard build... https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...76#post1683176

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrande View Post
    My advice: TR into a Shiradi Warforged Sorcerer and you'll be having a much simpler and easier life. Better self healing, better spells, better DPS, better grouper, and better soloing.
    Honestly, if you want a Siradi build i'd just go with the 18sorc/2pal and make him bladeforged. You get 15 free levels...the DC dont much matter on you shiradi build so...why bother making a dc tr based sorc? You can get a 25 shiradi sorc made in a week now (to 25 and in the shiradi tree)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalimah View Post
    Honestly, if you want a Siradi build i'd just go with the 18sorc/2pal and make him bladeforged. You get 15 free levels...the DC dont much matter on you shiradi build so...why bother making a dc tr based sorc? You can get a 25 shiradi sorc made in a week now (to 25 and in the shiradi tree)
    No doubt building a bladeforged is easier with 15 free levels. I was just assuming he wants to keep his current equipment and tomes.

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    Ah yeah got ya.

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