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    Default No means no.

    I could rant about the people who try to get random strangers to come be their hjealer, but I won't. That's what I have the Anonymous function for, and a single polite tell is an annoyance I can put up with when I forget to go back to Anonymous.

    But if you sent that single polite tell, and the person you were trying to get to come babysit your red bar says they are not interested, that's it. Done. Over.

    When you send further messages to try to badger them into it, after they've already declined, you're just revealing yourself to be stupid and extremely rude. You're not going to change their mind, you're just going to tick them off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirValentine View Post
    I could rant about the people who try to get random strangers to come be their hjealer, but I won't. That's what I have the Anonymous function for, and a single polite tell is an annoyance I can put up with when I forget to go back to Anonymous.

    But if you sent that single polite tell, and the person you were trying to get to come babysit your red bar says they are not interested, that's it. Done. Over.

    When you send further messages to try to badger them into it, after they've already declined, you're just revealing yourself to be stupid and extremely rude. You're not going to change their mind, you're just going to tick them off.
    Maybe they come up with an offer you can't refuse

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    That's what the harassment feature is for

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirValentine View Post
    I could rant about the people who try to get random strangers to come be their hjealer, but I won't. That's what I have the Anonymous function for, and a single polite tell is an annoyance I can put up with when I forget to go back to Anonymous.

    But if you sent that single polite tell, and the person you were trying to get to come babysit your red bar says they are not interested, that's it. Done. Over.

    When you send further messages to try to badger them into it, after they've already declined, you're just revealing yourself to be stupid and extremely rude. You're not going to change their mind, you're just going to tick them off.
    Use their desperation charge em a couple frds upfront.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gkar View Post
    That's what the harassment feature is for
    Bingo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charononus View Post
    Use their desperation charge em a couple frds upfront.
    Or join their group and pike. They'll never bother you again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charononus View Post
    Use their desperation charge em a couple frds upfront.
    Good answer...i was gonna suggest to charge them 10 mana pots in advance, but I like your fee even better.

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    Lets see you think that is annoying than you should have been with me this weekend.

    I was putting together a heroic normal MA run on my cleric. I had 4 guildees in the group 2 of which were new to the quest and so I had an LFM up inviting first timers. I started to get Tells from a HARD MA group about coming to heal their raid. At first I politely ignored the tells, while giving instructions as we filled the group. But then they started sending Tells to my Guild mates asking if I was AFK. I finally sent them a polite Tell that I was LEADING a training run.

    To me it was both funny and sad. 1) Trying to get a PL to leave their own group 2) Contacting members of a different party because you are trying to get their Cleric.

    However, my night was not over. On my Second Run of LoB this time on my Favored Soul, I kid you not, I start getting Tells asking if I will heal their Raid (Fall of Truth I believe). We had just taken down the first set of pillars and were beating on the Lord of Blades.

    Now mind you I don't have a problem with a polite tell asking if I will come help a group out, but I think some general rules of courtesy should be followed.

    1. If the person is in a Party don't send them a Tell - They are already in a group - You are also looking at the Who tab so you can see they are in a party and you can see where they are.
    2. If the person is the PL putting a group together, unless you are planning on taking all their current members with you don't ask them to join you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enoach View Post
    Now mind you I don't have a problem with a polite tell asking if I will come help a group out, but I think some general rules of courtesy should be followed.

    1. If the person is in a Party don't send them a Tell - They are already in a group - You are also looking at the Who tab so you can see they are in a party and you can see where they are.
    That is the one that annoys the snot out of me. And I get it way to frequently. Grobble Grobble Grobble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enoach View Post
    Lets see you think that is annoying than you should have been with me this weekend.

    I was putting together a heroic normal MA run on my cleric. I had 4 guildees in the group 2 of which were new to the quest and so I had an LFM up inviting first timers. I started to get Tells from a HARD MA group about coming to heal their raid. At first I politely ignored the tells, while giving instructions as we filled the group. But then they started sending Tells to my Guild mates asking if I was AFK. I finally sent them a polite Tell that I was LEADING a training run.

    To me it was both funny and sad. 1) Trying to get a PL to leave their own group 2) Contacting members of a different party because you are trying to get their Cleric.

    However, my night was not over. On my Second Run of LoB this time on my Favored Soul, I kid you not, I start getting Tells asking if I will heal their Raid (Fall of Truth I believe). We had just taken down the first set of pillars and were beating on the Lord of Blades.

    Now mind you I don't have a problem with a polite tell asking if I will come help a group out, but I think some general rules of courtesy should be followed.

    1. If the person is in a Party don't send them a Tell - They are already in a group - You are also looking at the Who tab so you can see they are in a party and you can see where they are.
    2. If the person is the PL putting a group together, unless you are planning on taking all their current members with you don't ask them to join you
    We can currently "turn off" the Trade and Advice chat channels, and I believe one more automatically while in a quest...

    Why can't we have something along the lines of "Hold Music" as well, built into the Social system and a selection of "canned" text responses?

    For example, if someone wants to send me a tell while I'm in a quest they would get a random selection from DDO's themes along with a text saying "I'm sorry, [Alt name here] is not available at the moment. Please try again later."

    Blind invites are another story entirely... I have lost so many end-battles by getting a blind invite at the wrong time that I wish I could set a flag that would instantly incap the inviter at -5... 8^)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hambo View Post
    We can currently "turn off" the Trade and Advice chat channels, and I believe one more automatically while in a quest...

    Why can't we have something along the lines of "Hold Music" as well, built into the Social system and a selection of "canned" text responses?

    For example, if someone wants to send me a tell while I'm in a quest they would get a random selection from DDO's themes along with a text saying "I'm sorry, [Alt name here] is not available at the moment. Please try again later."

    Blind invites are another story entirely... I have lost so many end-battles by getting a blind invite at the wrong time that I wish I could set a flag that would instantly incap the inviter at -5... 8^)
    for the sort of "ddo answering machine" type /afk *insert text here*

    so that when they send you a tell they get "X player is afk, "I'm sorry, [Alt name here] is not available at the moment. Please try again later." and that would be essentially the same thing. :3

    Of course if they can't see standard chat that is a problem, but we gotta use what we got now (and hopefully the devs will put in a feature like you have described)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hambo View Post
    Why can't we have something along the lines of "Hold Music" as well, built into the Social system and a selection of "canned" text responses?

    For example, if someone wants to send me a tell while I'm in a quest they would get a random selection from DDO's themes along with a text saying "I'm sorry, [Alt name here] is not available at the moment. Please try again later."
    There's already "/afk message" which naturally disappears when you move the cursor or hit a key, but a variant "/busy message" which is kept active & then just removed when you enter "/back" (or something similar) would be a nice extra addition.
    I don't mean to come across as unsympathetic - but I am, so I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hambo View Post
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    Blind invites are another story entirely... I have lost so many end-battles by getting a blind invite at the wrong time that I wish I could set a flag that would instantly incap the inviter at -5... 8^)
    I don't get the blind invites like I use to back in 2007 and then again in 2009. However, one way to avoid the blind invite when you are soloing a quest is to bring along a Hire and Park it at the door. As long as you are in a party they can't invite you. /Tell is another matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyDuck81 View Post
    There's already "/afk message" which naturally disappears when you move the cursor or hit a key, but a variant "/busy message" which is kept active & then just removed when you enter "/back" (or something similar) would be a nice extra addition.
    I was under the impression that if you manually set the /afk message it wouldn't go away until you removed it yourself.

    I've seen it work in that method once before, I don't know if it still does or not.

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    Stop being nice to them back...

    Tell them off, inform them they are being squelched and do so.

    These people will never learn unless there are consequences for their action
    And still most of them won’t learn.

    The thing is too many people put up with rude un-thoughtful people all the time
    Too many people actually reward them for acting this way.

    This is why they act this way...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missing_Minds View Post
    I was under the impression that if you manually set the /afk message it wouldn't go away until you removed it yourself.

    I've seen it work in that method once before, I don't know if it still does or not.
    You are correct, and it does still work like that.

    A manually set afk (I use "/afk smoking" all the time) won't go away until you manually clear it with "/afk".

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    It's not just healers. I've been getting it a lot lately obviously on my healer toons, but also on my trapper toons, and my monk of all things. And people have gotten really rude when I say no thank you. Like they know something about my time and plans that I don't. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrinityTurtle View Post
    It's not just healers. I've been getting it a lot lately obviously on my healer toons, but also on my trapper toons, and my monk of all things. And people have gotten really rude when I say no thank you. Like they know something about my time and plans that I don't. LOL
    Trappers, casters and healers for me and the other day on one of my healers when I declined a random invite(through /tell) the guy started telling me off saying how he was better than me and what not (among other vulgar things) I couldn't believe it I mean what kind of logic dictates that someone should be more inclined to help you if you start insulting them when they say no.

    example:
    hey think you can come heal my party?
    -sorry I'm busy atm doing "insert w/e here"
    F**k you you piece of Sh*t you don't even know what you are doing.
    -o okay ya that makes sense I'll come heal.
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