Last edited by Alcedes; 06-03-2013 at 05:44 PM.
The ingame text should certainly be corrected. But the way that it has always worked is that heroic and epic XP are different, not heroic and epic quests.
Last edited by ForumAccess; 06-03-2013 at 05:51 PM.
1. TR and check that your heroic tome is active
2. Find someone who TR'd and ask if their heroic tome is active.
Other than that, that is all the information anyone is going to be able to give you.
OMG players moaning about getting more xp from Epic tomes. Bet this gets fixed now that it been brought up.
If you are level 20 and above Epic tomes are the ones working for xp bonus.
If level 1 to 19 its your heroic tomes that are working for xp bonus , I have TR'ed and this is the way it is.
I had no problems with the tomes i have read and im sure when i get back up to level 20 my epic tomes will kick back in again.
So the level 20 character loses benefits from the heroic tome regardless of what level quest they are in.
The epic tome, appears to have a bug, or a description error, since it is working for a level 20 character in heroic quests. This bug benefits players at this time.
Hopefully they just update the description, because I think this benefit is so minor I don't think most people would even notice.
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You are above heroic lvl the epic tome will effect you no matter weather you are in a heroic or an epic quest.
the heroic tome never gave you any bonus once you hit lvl 20.
stop spreading missinformation that the tomes are not working because, you don't understand how they work.
Didn't read page 2, but to me, the tomes are working.
I read an epic tome when I reached 20 on my last life.
On my low level run, the heroic tome is working as always, giving +50% XP.
Still working on going back to cap to see if I lost the epic tome.
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There is a very simple explanation:
Heroic Tome gives a bonus to Heroic XP (from lvl 1 to 19)
Epic Tome gives a bonus to Epic XP (lvl 20+)
Epic tomes of learning provide epic XP--that is XP you get above level 20. It has nothing to do with whether the quest itself is epic or heroic. There are heroic quests that scale above 20.
ALL of the XP you gain above 20 is EPIC, irregardless of the quest you are taking. Therefore your Epic tome of learning applies.
If you were level 19, the previous tome of learning would apply.
None of this has ANYTHING to do with the dungeons, missions, quests, etc.
Epic XP DOES NOT equal Epic quests.
Herioc XP DOES NOT equal Heroic quests.
This whole thread is a case of confusing apples and oranges.
Actually, the stupidity in all of this is that the whole system is clear as mud.
The way it should work is that Heroic Tomes should work on Heroic XP, regardless of level. Epic Tomes should work on Epic XP. The very fact that at level 20 I can be running level 20 and 21 Heroic quests and no longer get the benefit of my Heroic Tomes is just lame. The fact that the Tomes can't coexist on someone's character sheet is also lazy. Inactive tomes should at least show up as grayed out with tooltips that explain, "This Tome is currently inactive. Its effects are restricted to Characters who are between the levels of X and Y."
Why the players around here gnaw on each other when the system is clearly flawed, bugged, lazy, and unintuitive is beyond me.
In the game there is a lot of confusion about whether the levels 18 to 22 are heroic or epic.
You can do a Heroic level 18 quest on Elite and it would qualify as Epic as it's level 20, yet you started the quest as Heroic so the heroic tome should do it's work.
Same can be said for a level 20 heroic quest on elite, it would be level 22, still the heroic tome of learning should qualify.
Also you can start an Epic level 20 quest on Casual it would be a level 19 quest yet the epic tome of learning should kick in.
This is probably how they intended that things should work.
But it gets better, the level penalty won't kick in if you're more then 2 levels above the base level of the quest. So an epic character of level 20 can do that heroic level 18 quest on elite without any penalties. If he would do a level 17 on elite he gets a -10%.
It gets even more confusing when you look at gear, level 20 seems to count as both heroic and epic. Level 20 is kinda special as it's a transitional level, it's both heroic and epic at the same time.
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This thread left me slightly more confused then when i came here...
Can someone fill in the xp bonunses for greater heroic tome under the following settings:
Character level 19 / Elite TOD (Quest level 22)
Character level 20 / Elite TOD (Quest level 22)
Character level 20 / Elite Shroud (Quest level 19)
Character Level 1-19 = Heroic thus Heroic XP Tome applies.
Character Level 20+ = Epic thus Epic XP Tome applies.
How's that confusing? Granted, anyone can make something simple seem complicated, as you did with the rest of the post I partially quoted.
Quest level is irrelevant. Did you enter the quest on the heroic tab, or epic tab? The answer instantly solves any imagined ambiguity.
In most cases, gear classification is irrelevant; (iirc) weapon [X] damage is the only exception. There are no effects I'm aware of in game that specifically work on "heroic gear" or "epic gear" exclusively. "Lucky Cape" "Deadly Weapons" and various ED effects apply equally weather the gear in question is from Korthos or the Forgotten Realms.
Last edited by PermaBanned; 06-05-2013 at 06:19 AM.
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