sarlona, what supposed to be "prime time" - 7:30 pm est on a saturday, posted a lfm for what i thought is a very popular low level quest: irestone inlet "elite bb streak", no class restrictions, levels 4-6, went to get ship buffs <<<3 minutes, waited 5 more minutes, no hits of the lfm, went ip, completed the quest solo =15 more minutes, still not a single person hit the lfm. at that point got curious and decided to keep the lfm up, went and completed the depths series, 15 minutes, freshen the air - 10 minutes, proof is in the poison - 20 minutes, altogether over an hour with the lfm up, not 1 hit, not even a newbie that i will have to carry to shrines (was expecting and prepared for those), not a person outside the level range - no one! it is horrifying! is it me? have been playing on that server for almost 4 years now, was on my "main" toon (currently clonk on his 6th life), don't yell at anybody, don't care if you join my group and die, what the hell is going on?!? game can't be that dead could it?
Last edited by Gempoult; 06-09-2013 at 09:14 AM.
Gem - that's pretty much my experience exactly on Thelanis - I am 11th life tr and pug everything. I realised today that I have not been on DDO for 3 days - because I am expecting not to make a group when I log on I guess
I find that it varies on Orien. Sometimes it is indeed dead, on Friday I had a lfm up 9-11 elite Von3 for an entire hour with no hits. I did the whole 2nd half of sorrowdusk waiting for it to fill but nothing and that's one of the most popular quests at the level range. Then again a few hours later went up a couple levels with constant LFMs in the level range.
For the person who said they are a problem solver not a TR advocate, ummm ok but how much problem solving can you do after you complete a quest? Content can never keep up with players. When epic GH came out there were tons of LFMs for about 3 weeks, right until they changed the fall of truth raid then everyone stopped running GH. People either had what they wanted from the pack or they were soloing EE for an item and the GH LFMs dropped off the ledge. I have a 12 life character that basically sits on the sidelines, what is there to run? Virtually everyone I know in the game sits at cap for about 2 weeks then TRs because they are bored. You will usually see an abundance of heroic LFMs but unless a new pack has been released you won't find epic LFMs aside from ED farms very often. Heck their next big thing, Epic TR more or less throws up the white flag for producing an end game and is just saying Epic TR is now the end game. If you don't like TRing Ddo really isn't the game for you because it seems clear that's what they view as end game.
At the end of the day it's entertainment, which is a massive industry that will always pander to the lowest common denominator. I was just outlining my perspective on the concept of gaming as a more serious hobby rather than an after work passtime or stress killer. The idea behind the philosophy being, that if you are going to put a significant amount of time into doing something, it is both natural and satisfying to be able to do it well.
Using it to argue that the game is dying is simply spurious and deceptive.
What we need is a graph that spans a full year or more - and to know the join dates of those leaving. That would tell us if long term players are leaving or if the game has high turnover of newbs.
Aside from the Past Life feats for TR toons, I find that running through familiar quests on a different class can make it seem like a different game. I have to change my approach, and I often need to find new solutions to old problems. Without fail, I need to learn the features of the new class. This is enough to keep the game interesting.
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I think only looking at two data points on a graph is intentionally deceptive.
I think intentionally ignoring context and pointing to a couple weeks in late winter after the holidays when there had been no update for a long time, then comparing that couple weeks to late April a scant few weeks after Epic Gianthold, and reaching the conclusion of "flat" is more than a little intellectually dishonest.
Then ignoring that the graph was clearly trending downward and that the last couple weeks have been more dead even than the dead zone at the end of april... Don't know what to call that? Wishful thinking perhaps?
Last edited by Ironclans_evil_twin; 06-11-2013 at 09:48 AM.
Provide this data I'll happily well not really because it would be a bad thing for the game, admit that I was wrong. I just don't accept snapshot data and anecdotal claims as proof of DoooOOOOOOooooMMMM!!!!!111!!!!1!!!!!1!!
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