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    Default What the excuse for no players today?

    Lunchtime in EUrope and its a ghost town. Again plenty of 1 person lfms

    I am playing a FVS and soloing market - no takers for my lfm. How is that even possible?

    My guildie is soloing lvl 11 and there are no takers for his lfm

    Will I be sued if I do some Facebook marketing so I get someone to play with? Its pretty cheap...

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    Due to Bank Holydays in many of Europe on Thursday, many a family went on their road to some short vacation, I am sure. otherwise, maybe, NWO finally gets a lot of players trying. Give them 2 weeks for tryouts and they all will be back for good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldgolem View Post
    Lunchtime in EUrope and its a ghost town. Again plenty of 1 person lfms

    I am playing a FVS and soloing market - no takers for my lfm. How is that even possible?

    My guildie is soloing lvl 11 and there are no takers for his lfm

    Will I be sued if I do some Facebook marketing so I get someone to play with? Its pretty cheap...
    no, no, no, you don't get it, game is doing juuuuuuust fine, everything is perfect, there are so many people to run anything with. stop complaining, you are just making it worse
    same thing last night on sarlona (prime time 5-8pm est), 2 people with cleric or fvs levels on the who tab in the range 17-20, one 11 cleric, 8 monk and one 17 sorc, 1 fvs, both grouped, at some point they both logged out and wwas 0 people on the who tab and that lasted for hours. but of course the game is not dead/dying, just "the start of summer" (when kids have faaaar more free time to play games), "long weekend" (even though this one is quite regular) and so on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gempoult View Post
    no, no, no, you don't get it, game is doing juuuuuuust fine, everything is perfect, there are so many people to run anything with. stop complaining, you are just making it worse
    same thing last night on sarlona (prime time 5-8pm est), 2 people with cleric or fvs levels on the who tab in the range 17-20, one 11 cleric, 8 monk and one 17 sorc, 1 fvs, both grouped, at some point they both logged out and wwas 0 people on the who tab and that lasted for hours. but of course the game is not dead/dying, just "the start of summer" (when kids have faaaar more free time to play games), "long weekend" (even though this one is quite regular) and so on...
    None of my alts need a divine in the group, not even the melees. But this post had me confused because this sounds WAY dead, so I jumped on Argo just now to look. 9am on the east coast on a Saturday, so hardly peak time:

    405 players on the who tab. I periodically check Argo's actuve population, and over the past 18 months or so I've done this (random times of day, maybe one check every 2-3 months) the total active players is always around 400.

    7 (SEVEN!) characters with cleric or FVS levels:

    10 FVS
    25 FVS
    22 Clr
    6 Clr
    25 Clr
    20 Clr
    25 Fvs

    Not one single multiclass build. Weird on so many levels. Where are all the divines? Where are all the divine splashes?

    I'm guessing many divines got sick of random tells and went anonymous. Many divines got fed up with nerfs and tred into other classes. And some probably just got fed up with needy puggers and gave up.

    EDIT: Oddly, now there's 51 characters with at least 1 level of cleric or fvs, and it's only like 7 minutes later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldgolem View Post
    Lunchtime in EUrope and its a ghost town. Again plenty of 1 person lfms

    I am playing a FVS and soloing market - no takers for my lfm. How is that even possible?

    My guildie is soloing lvl 11 and there are no takers for his lfm

    Will I be sued if I do some Facebook marketing so I get someone to play with? Its pretty cheap...
    The LFM system is dead and not coming back. Due to the crappy playerbase in this game, no one wants to group with people they don't know. There's nothing Turbine can do about this, short of making each quest need a full party to complete, and this isn't a good idea. You're going to have to adapt or leave the game.

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    Ya'll must be on the wrong server. On Thelanis we've got a full LFM. people dancing in the streets and everyone loves one another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalont View Post
    The LFM system is dead and not coming back. Due to the crappy playerbase in this game, no one wants to group with people they don't know. There's nothing Turbine can do about this, short of making each quest need a full party to complete, and this isn't a good idea. You're going to have to adapt or leave the game.
    Actually the only way for them to give the LFMs a kick start again is to get rid of the user channels.

    I am not saying I support this method but that is the only way I can see this happening.


    As to the OP. How is the weather in EU? I know in the US I am an early bird being up at 7am EST on a Saturday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jalont View Post
    The LFM system is dead and not coming back. Due to the crappy playerbase in this game, no one wants to group with people they don't know. There's nothing Turbine can do about this, short of making each quest need a full party to complete, and this isn't a good idea. You're going to have to adapt or leave the game.
    LFM is best in DDO. Try to find group in NWO for example. Mission Impossible

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllisDee37 View Post
    None of my alts need a divine in the group, not even the melees. But this post had me confused because this sounds WAY dead, so I jumped on Argo just now to look. 9am on the east coast on a Saturday, so hardly peak time:

    405 players on the who tab. I periodically check Argo's actuve population, and over the past 18 months or so I've done this (random times of day, maybe one check every 2-3 months) the total active players is always around 400.

    7 (SEVEN!) characters with cleric or FVS levels:

    10 FVS
    25 FVS
    22 Clr
    6 Clr
    25 Clr
    20 Clr
    25 Fvs

    Not one single multiclass build. Weird on so many levels. Where are all the divines? Where are all the divine splashes?

    I'm guessing many divines got sick of random tells and went anonymous. Many divines got fed up with nerfs and tred into other classes. And some probably just got fed up with needy puggers and gave up.

    EDIT: Oddly, now there's 51 characters with at least 1 level of cleric or fvs, and it's only like 7 minutes later.
    right, yeah, congratulations to you, sir, you can complete any level quest, on any toon, any difficulty, any number of levels under with one hand tied behind your back and while playing a trombone... sadly i don't care about that what i care is that the game i am kinda addicted to is nearly dead (or at least large part of it called grouping) and not many seem to give a ****

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    Quote Originally Posted by skullzz View Post
    Actually the only way for them to give the LFMs a kick start again is to get rid of the user channels.

    I am not saying I support this method but that is the only way I can see this happening.


    As to the OP. How is the weather in EU? I know in the US I am an early bird being up at 7am EST on a Saturday.
    That does nothing for superguilds and soloing. I'd imagine the vast majority of players don't know anything about user channels. They've joined an active superguild that has 100 people on at all times, or they've learned to solo content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gempoult View Post
    right, yeah, congratulations to you, sir, you can complete any level quest, on any toon, any difficulty, any number of levels under with one hand tied behind your back and while playing a trombone... sadly i don't care about that what i care is that the game i am kinda addicted to is nearly dead (or at least large part of it called grouping) and not many seem to give a ****
    Grouping isn't dead. Grouping with random people is dead. Adapt. What can Turbine do to make me want to join pugs again? How can they assure me that I won't end up grouped with some crazy person who screams and acts a fool over voice? What are the steps Turbine can take to change this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gempoult View Post
    right, yeah, congratulations to you, sir, you can complete any level quest, on any toon, any difficulty, any number of levels under with one hand tied behind your back and while playing a trombone... sadly i don't care about that what i care is that the game i am kinda addicted to is nearly dead (or at least large part of it called grouping) and not many seem to give a ****
    I can honestly say that I do not, in fact, care about players who need a hire strapped to their back whining that nobody wants to heal them.

    And I've been pugging a ton lately using the LFM system without issue. It's not about being able to solo content. It's about being able to join any group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gempoult View Post
    no, no, no, you don't get it, game is doing juuuuuuust fine, everything is perfect, there are so many people to run anything with. stop complaining, you are just making it worse
    same thing last night on sarlona (prime time 5-8pm est), 2 people with cleric or fvs levels on the who tab in the range 17-20, one 11 cleric, 8 monk and one 17 sorc, 1 fvs, both grouped, at some point they both logged out and wwas 0 people on the who tab and that lasted for hours. but of course the game is not dead/dying, just "the start of summer" (when kids have faaaar more free time to play games), "long weekend" (even though this one is quite regular) and so on...
    Are you saying that after these 2 people logged there were no more Healer types on the who list or that there were actually zero people at all on the who list?

    If the latter, blatantly false and an outright lie.

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    It's totally true, I have a reliable source. You better reroll now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    Are you saying that after these 2 people logged there were no more Healer types on the who list or that there were actually zero people at all on the who list?

    If the latter, blatantly false and an outright lie.

    No, he's saying there were no healers. He doesn't realize that most divines go anonymous because of all the random invites. Which he probably would have sent out, since he was looking at the who list. This isn't 2009, you don't need a divine to heal you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalont View Post
    No, he's saying there were no healers. He doesn't realize that most divines go anonymous because of all the random invites. Which he probably would have sent out, since he was looking at the who list. This isn't 2009, you don't need a divine to heal you.
    Hope that is what he meant.

    I know all the Divines I run with, myself included, are anon.

    We are anon because of all the random tells and unwanted random party invites.

    If the OP does not understand this reasoning, I suggest he create a Divine and see what it is like first hand.

    The anon button cannot be hit fast enough....

    Quote Originally Posted by hsinclair
    I heard the devs hate all wizards, bards, clerics, fighters, and fuzzy bunnies and only want us to play halfling barbarian/paladin shuriken specialists!

    It's totally true, I have a reliable source. You better reroll now.
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    Yeah, anonymous healers are nothing new. However, on Orien, healbots are not needed by most parties. We have much more self-sufficient players. This is a good thing.
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    Yeah, if I ever have an LFM up and I get a join request from 'Anonymous' I always instantly accept it or I know I will just miss out on some heals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldgolem View Post
    Lunchtime in EUrope and its a ghost town.
    I may be slightly mistaken on the reasons because I wasn't around back then but weren't the eu servers closed because there weren't enough people? I really might be wrong but that was my understanding on it, and since it's early to late morning in the US still I would expect there to be much less people on. Every time I've ever been online during the day there have been less people during non-us primetime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forummuleonly View Post
    Yeah, if I ever have an LFM up and I get a join request from 'Anonymous' I always instantly accept it or I know I will just miss out on some heals.
    When I hit a LFM, I always accompany it with a /t that an anon CLR is behind it.

    Quote Originally Posted by hsinclair
    I heard the devs hate all wizards, bards, clerics, fighters, and fuzzy bunnies and only want us to play halfling barbarian/paladin shuriken specialists!

    It's totally true, I have a reliable source. You better reroll now.
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    Default I play healers, druids, FVS, and bards

    Only a few are anonymous. The rest I leave up in case I want to join a PUG and I don't want to be shown as anonymous. I hardly get any tells anymore and very few blind invites. In 2007 thru 2010, it was quite nasty on the amount of tells.

    I would be in a party and get a tell. I send back, "I am in a party, would you like it if I was in your party then left to join another party?" I get back some interesting responses to that.

    I will accept some blind invites but continue what I was doing then drop group after a couple minutes so they can hopefully find a healer.
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