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    Default Please comment/advice/Pal/rog/rgr

    Please be completely honest and critical with better ideas if possible.

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    Level 15 Lawful Good Warforged Male
    (2 Paladin \ 7 Rogue \ 6 Ranger) 
    Hit Points: 277
    Spell Points: 50 
    BAB: 13\13\18\23
    Fortitude: 17
    Reflex: 11
    Will: 3
    
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 15)
    Strength             18                    21
    Dexterity             8                    10
    Constitution         20                    22
    Intelligence          8                     8
    Wisdom                6                     6
    Charisma              6                     7
    
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 15)
    Balance              -1                    -5
    Bluff                -2                     0
    Concentration         5                     6
    Diplomacy             2                    16
    Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
    Haggle               -2                    -2
    Heal                 -2                    -2
    Hide                 -1                    -1
    Intimidate           -2                    -2
    Jump                  4                    17
    Listen               -2                    -2
    Move Silently        -1                    -1
    Open Lock            n/a                    1
    Perform              n/a                   n/a
    Repair               -1                    17
    Search               -1                    -1
    Spot                 -2                    -2
    Swim                  4                    -5
    Tumble               n/a                   -3
    Use Magic Device     n/a                   16
    
    Level 1 (Paladin)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Feat: (Automatic) Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Good
    Feat: (Automatic) Composite Plating
    Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
    Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Light Fortification
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
    Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Smite Evil
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
    Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
    Feat: (Automatic) Trip
    Feat: (Automatic) Warforged Traits
    
    
    
    
    Level 2 (Paladin)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Divine Grace
    Feat: (Automatic) Lay on Hands
    
    
    
    
    Level 3 (Ranger)
    Skill: Jump (+5)
    Feat: (Selected) Adamantine Body
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
    Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
    Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy
    
    
    
    
    Level 4 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
    Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    
    
    Level 5 (Ranger)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Feat: (Automatic) Diehard
    
    
    
    
    Level 6 (Ranger)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
    Feat: (Automatic) Precise Shot
    
    
    
    
    Level 7 (Ranger)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Automatic) Archer's Focus
    
    
    
    
    Level 8 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Diplomacy (+2.5)
    Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot
    
    
    
    
    Level 9 (Rogue)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+7)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding
    
    
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    Skill: Repair (+6)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
    
    
    
    
    Level 11 (Rogue)
    Skill: Repair (+6)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense
    
    
    
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Diplomacy (+3)
    Skill: Repair (+3)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    Feat: (Automatic) Trapmaking
    Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge
    Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge (Dodge Bonus)
    
    
    
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Repair (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    
    
    Level 14 (Rogue)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
    Skill: Jump (+3)
    Skill: Repair (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
    Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
    Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking II
    Enhancement: Rogue Assassin I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
    Enhancement: Improved Hide I
    Enhancement: Improved Hide II
    Enhancement: Improved Move Silently I
    Enhancement: Improved Move Silently II
    Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
    Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
    Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
    Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
    Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction I
    Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction II
    Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
    Enhancement: Warforged Tactics I
    Enhancement: Warforged Tactics II
    
    
    
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Repair (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
    Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II

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    Quote Originally Posted by Appollyon View Post
    Please be completely honest and critical with better ideas if possible.

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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.16.01
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    Level 15 Lawful Good Warforged Male
    (2 Paladin \ 7 Rogue \ 6 Ranger) 
    Hit Points: 277
    Spell Points: 50 
    BAB: 13\13\18\23
    Fortitude: 17
    Reflex: 11
    Will: 3
    
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 15)
    Strength             18                    21
    Dexterity             8                    10
    Constitution         20                    22
    Intelligence          8                     8
    Wisdom                6                     6
    Charisma              6                     7
    
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 15)
    Balance              -1                    -5
    Bluff                -2                     0
    Concentration         5                     6
    Diplomacy             2                    16
    Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
    Haggle               -2                    -2
    Heal                 -2                    -2
    Hide                 -1                    -1
    Intimidate           -2                    -2
    Jump                  4                    17
    Listen               -2                    -2
    Move Silently        -1                    -1
    Open Lock            n/a                    1
    Perform              n/a                   n/a
    Repair               -1                    17
    Search               -1                    -1
    Spot                 -2                    -2
    Swim                  4                    -5
    Tumble               n/a                   -3
    Use Magic Device     n/a                   16
    
    Level 1 (Paladin)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Feat: (Automatic) Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Good
    Feat: (Automatic) Composite Plating
    Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
    Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Light Fortification
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
    Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Smite Evil
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
    Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
    Feat: (Automatic) Trip
    Feat: (Automatic) Warforged Traits
    
    
    
    
    Level 2 (Paladin)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Divine Grace
    Feat: (Automatic) Lay on Hands
    
    
    
    
    Level 3 (Ranger)
    Skill: Jump (+5)
    Feat: (Selected) Adamantine Body
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
    Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
    Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy
    
    
    
    
    Level 4 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
    Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    
    
    Level 5 (Ranger)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Feat: (Automatic) Diehard
    
    
    
    
    Level 6 (Ranger)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
    Feat: (Automatic) Precise Shot
    
    
    
    
    Level 7 (Ranger)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
    Feat: (Automatic) Archer's Focus
    
    
    
    
    Level 8 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Diplomacy (+2.5)
    Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot
    
    
    
    
    Level 9 (Rogue)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+7)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding
    
    
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    Skill: Repair (+6)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
    
    
    
    
    Level 11 (Rogue)
    Skill: Repair (+6)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense
    
    
    
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Diplomacy (+3)
    Skill: Repair (+3)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    Feat: (Automatic) Trapmaking
    Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge
    Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge (Dodge Bonus)
    
    
    
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Repair (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    
    
    Level 14 (Rogue)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
    Skill: Jump (+3)
    Skill: Repair (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
    Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
    Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking II
    Enhancement: Rogue Assassin I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
    Enhancement: Improved Hide I
    Enhancement: Improved Hide II
    Enhancement: Improved Move Silently I
    Enhancement: Improved Move Silently II
    Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
    Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
    Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
    Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
    Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction I
    Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction II
    Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
    Enhancement: Warforged Tactics I
    Enhancement: Warforged Tactics II
    
    
    
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Repair (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
    Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II

    why addy body?

    you lose evasion for what? a lil bit more prr?

    i would personally say either go more pally - 14 pally 6 rogue/ranger or 15 pally 3 monk 2 ranger/rogue

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    It would help if you stated your build goals; and also took it out the next ten levels. As Hob said, Addy Body cancels Evasion; so either drop or replace w/Mithril Body. The pally splash implies you care about saves; which makes dump-stating CHA puzzling. Likewise, rgr 6 implies you're going TWF; but dump-stating DEX means you can't take GTWF, which hurts your DPS (and your Reflex saves).

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    The pally splash implies you care about saves
    Pretty sure pally is only in there to qualify as an iconic character. (Thus only 15 levels, warforged pally, and not taking rogue at level 1.)

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    Yeah I seem to have forgotten the whole this is for a new bladeforge iconic. Hence the pally at all.
    But I did not know the adamantine body cancelled evasion so I will take that off. would mithral be worth taking or something else?
    There would have to be a loss of STR from levels to get the dex needed for GTWF. I could go GWF route but lose out on a lot of dps.

    I am wondering if would not just be better to use the 15 lvl start to make something to 20 and take a past life and start it fresh from there.

    Quote Originally Posted by EllisDee37 View Post
    Pretty sure pally is only in there to qualify as an iconic character. (Thus only 15 levels, warforged pally, and not taking rogue at level 1.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Appollyon View Post
    I am wondering if would not just be better to use the 15 lvl start to make something to 20 and take a past life and start it fresh from there.
    ...which is why you cannot tr from (or into) an iconic character.

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