This deal is getting worse all the time
This deal is getting worse all the time
Karadon: Paladin  Mar - Jul 2006 - Aureon [EU] --- Paladin  Feb 2010 - June 2012 - Orien --- Paladin  June 2012 - July 2013 - Orien [TR1] --- Paladin  July 2013 - Present - Orien [TR2]
Yes this is correct, I played Paladins, even pure Paladins before Update 23!!!
Better to look at it that as the content hasn't been fully finalised that there may be extra goodies making their way into the expansion, but you won't be charged extra for these as the price has been set based on the current content definition. And you are remembering that the price for the prepurchase standard and collectors edition includes more than just the expansion quests?
I think the lesson for the good people at Turbine to learn - and yes Jerry, I'm looking at you, pointing at your and wagging my finger at you - is that you guys need to get a grip on the communication side and provide much better detail about expansion plans in the future. Compare what you've done for Shadowfell with what you did for MotU. Obviously you can't provide every minute bit of detail, that's not expected. Here is what your own marketing details fro http://www.ddo.com/en/shadowfell/ say:
You may notice the lack of detail about the two Adventure Packs and what they actually contain by way of quests. Better to spell it out at the start, then if you add something extra as it nears completion, just update the details. Because it's the DDO Forums you'll still get people complaining that you've added more stuff than previously advertised, but that's to be expected around here.
Last edited by Deadlock; 05-29-2013 at 01:48 PM.
Hey Jerry, any word how you guys intend to get 3 (increasingly expensive) levels out of 10 quests*?
Change to repetition penalties?
Make Everyone TR and reset their repetitions?
Unbork challenge XP?
(*Better be 10 quests, and not 9 quests plus one you released in U18)
When level Cap goes up, you have all the repetitions and completions to make going from 25-28 from a cold start kind of daunting.
So, do they intend for everyone to just TR again and plan out how they're going to get up to 28? Will repetitions get reset? Will the whole system change? What about that kloodge currently in place to allow capped 25 characters to play with uncapped epic chars without XP Penalties? Is that going to be adjusted as well?
Why would anything be changed or reset when that something can just be made exclusive to the ddo store and make a profit off of it.
EDIT: Never mind I step away for a minute come back and finish my post and someones already said it....
There were all these questions to answer - what do VIPs get, what don't they get, what's an "xp tome", what are epic destinies, how will the level cap increase work with TR, what's this panther hire thingy, ooh shiny new Druid class how cool are they, how will the new challenges work, Forgotten Realms OMGBBQ! etc etc
and oh by the way 3 adventure packs
This time around the add-ons are pretty well understood - okay, it's an owlbear not a panther, but we know how it works. Okay it's an Epic XP tome, we know how it works. Okay you introduced skill tomes, that was really easy to explain. So they don't have as much blah blah to distract us from the questions they don't have answers for yet - the communication overall is way down from the media blitz we got last year, but I don't think the details on what we would see quest-wise is any different.
I'd really like to see more communication, but I think they just don't know yet. Around June 3rd we'll probably see Beta happen and a lot more info will start to appear.
You either release something or you don't. There is no middle ground when you are trying to sell something.
Imagine how upset all those people were that bought the expansion for Bladeforged only to find out what they paid for was not in there. And it "might" be done by expansion.
I don't go to buy a car and only get a tire.
How can anyone in there right mind offer to sell something and it's suprise as to what you getting.
The Divine Cuisinart: khopesh wielding pure tempest in divine crusader/Hassan's Assassin: 77 DC/dps/survivability focused halfling assassin/The Count of Monte Cristo: dps/CC/survivability focused pure swashbuckler/Dubbell O'Seven: casting/ranged focused WF artificer
Abandoned builds: Totally Bass Ackwards/Santa's Little Slayer
If they were to come out and say "it will include X, Y and Z, but maybe all wont be done by release" I'd feel better about paying for it, but as is all I see is "we plan for X, Y and Z, but things may change" which kind of leads to doubts on whether they plan on finishing anything that isn't ready by release or just calling however much that is the expansion and moving on to the next project (or selling what doesn't get done seperatly later, at least to non-subscribers).
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