Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 46
  1. #1
    The Hatchery CThruTheEgo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Some random rock hurdling through the universe to who knows where...
    Posts
    3,033

    Default Dev response please: Epic quests in the expansion?

    So the expansion will consist of 10 new quests and 2 wilderness areas. Thanks for that info QuartermasterX. But will these quests have epic options? Or are they just for heroic levels like U18? The answer to this may determine whether or not I pre-purchase, so it'd be great to have that info. Thank you in advance.
    White Feather Sniper: dps focused, 62DC paralyzing arrows human ranged ranger/The Divine Cuisinart: human tempest in divine crusader/Hassan's Assassin: 81DC halfling assassin/The Count of Monte Cristo: human swashbuckler/Dubbell O'Seven: WF artificer
    Abandoned builds: Totally Bass Ackwards/Santa's Little Slayer

  2. #2
    Community Member redspecter23's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Toronto, Ontario
    Posts
    3,688

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by CThruTheEgo View Post
    So the expansion will consist of 10 new quests and 2 wilderness areas. Thanks for that info QuartermasterX. But will these quests have epic options? Or are they just for heroic levels like U18? The answer to this may determine whether or not I pre-purchase, so it'd be great to have that info. Thank you in advance.
    This somewhat worries me as well. Currently, the highest level content we can be expected to run is Epic Gianthold which is level 24-26 depending on difficulty. We have 0 quests at base level 25, 26, 27 or 28. Even if all 10 new quests are level 25+ that is a pitiful amount of quests to spread between 4 levels. If I'm understanding the overlevel penalty correctly, once you hit level 28, you would have to run level 25 or higher content in order to not receive an xp penalty. This leaves EGH at hard or above, High Road at high and above and up to (but possibly fewer than) 10 new expansion quests. I'm really having a hard time seeing how the amount of content we currently have justifies a level increase at this time. To me this makes the level cap increase more of a penalty than a bonus as it shuts down a lot of content that could be run for destiny xp after cap. Perhaps that is part of the reason for the cap increase, to shut down Rusted Blades, Farmhouse and VoN3 farming. If the devs keep the xp in new content low, we could have serious issues.
    Last edited by redspecter23; 05-25-2013 at 04:01 PM.
    Kaarloe - Degenerate Matter - Argonnessen

  3. #3
    Community Member Cetus's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    4,882

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by redspecter23 View Post
    This somewhat worries me as well. Currently, the highest level content we can be expected to run is Epic Gianthold which is level 24-26 depending on difficulty. We have 0 quests at base level 25, 26, 27 or 28. Even if all 10 new quests are level 25+ that is a pitiful amount of quests to spread between 4 levels. If I'm understanding the overlevel penalty correctly, once you hit level 28, you would have to run level 25 or higher content in order to not receive an xp penalty. This leaves EGH at hard or above, High Road at high and above and up to (but possibly fewer than) 10 new expansion quests. I'm really having a hard time seeing how the amount of content we currently have justifies a level increase at this time. To me this makes the level cap increase more of a penalty than a bonus as it shuts down a lot of content that could be run for destiny xp after cap. Perhaps that is part of the reason for the cap increase, to shut down Rusted Blades, Farmhouse and VoN3 farming.
    Oh don't worry, just buy an epic xp tome and farm EE quests til your eyes bleed with 50% potions while paying a VIP subscription for 10% additional xp.

    Oh, and TR the character first so you can have all of your first time EE's to get the most out of that tome

    Sounds reasonable to me!
    YouTube Channel HERE
    Argonnessen's DEGENERATE MATTER

  4. #4
    The Hatchery CThruTheEgo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Some random rock hurdling through the universe to who knows where...
    Posts
    3,033

    Default

    The holiday is over... devs should be back... so, bump.

    How 'bout it devs, will the expansion have epic level content?

    And if there will be epic content, how many of those 10 quests will be epic?
    White Feather Sniper: dps focused, 62DC paralyzing arrows human ranged ranger/The Divine Cuisinart: human tempest in divine crusader/Hassan's Assassin: 81DC halfling assassin/The Count of Monte Cristo: human swashbuckler/Dubbell O'Seven: WF artificer
    Abandoned builds: Totally Bass Ackwards/Santa's Little Slayer

  5. #5
    Community Member Hendrik's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Bell's Brewery, MI.
    Posts
    10,991

    Default

    With a level cap increase seems pretty easy to deduce that they will be Epic.

    Quote Originally Posted by hsinclair
    I heard the devs hate all wizards, bards, clerics, fighters, and fuzzy bunnies and only want us to play halfling barbarian/paladin shuriken specialists!

    It's totally true, I have a reliable source. You better reroll now.
    Adventurer, Bug Reporter, Mournlander.

  6. #6
    Community Member Charononus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    5,345

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    With a level cap increase seems pretty easy to deduce that they will be Epic.
    IMO reasonable assumptions would be that there would be a raid in anything termed expansion, so reasonable deductions may not be valid.

  7. #7
    Community Member Bogenbroom's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    New Hampshire
    Posts
    1,766

    Default

    Okay, I will admit that I don't do a lot of TR-ing... but don't your epic levels stay in tact when you TR? So couldn't the idea be that you don't get from 20-28 in a single lifetime, but in 2 or 3? That approach would also seem to help with the the ED churn as well. Am I wrong there? Like I said, that isn't my playstyle I have *way* too many guys to worry about this sort of issue. I play with 50 rooks instead of 5 queens...
    Bogenbroom's DDO Wishlist.......Tolero's guide to actionable feedback
    Bogenbroom's legion... 83 characters, 3 accounts, and 1 irate wife.

  8. #8
    Hero
    2015 DDO Players Council
    Krelar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    4,121

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogenbroom View Post
    Okay, I will admit that I don't do a lot of TR-ing... but don't your epic levels stay in tact when you TR? So couldn't the idea be that you don't get from 20-28 in a single lifetime, but in 2 or 3? That approach would also seem to help with the the ED churn as well. Am I wrong there? Like I said, that isn't my playstyle I have *way* too many guys to worry about this sort of issue. I play with 50 rooks instead of 5 queens...
    Your epic destiny levels stay but you still have to re-level from 20-25 (or soon 28) that is the concern.

  9. #9
    Community Member Bogenbroom's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    New Hampshire
    Posts
    1,766

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Krelar View Post
    Your epic destiny levels stay but you still have to re-level from 20-25 (or soon 28) that is the concern.
    Gotcha... thanks for the correction.
    Bogenbroom's DDO Wishlist.......Tolero's guide to actionable feedback
    Bogenbroom's legion... 83 characters, 3 accounts, and 1 irate wife.

  10. #10
    Community Member skullzz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    489

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by redspecter23 View Post
    This somewhat worries me as well. Currently, the highest level content we can be expected to run is Epic Gianthold which is level 24-26 depending on difficulty. We have 0 quests at base level 25, 26, 27 or 28. Even if all 10 new quests are level 25+ that is a pitiful amount of quests to spread between 4 levels. If I'm understanding the overlevel penalty correctly, once you hit level 28, you would have to run level 25 or higher content in order to not receive an xp penalty. This leaves EGH at hard or above, High Road at high and above and up to (but possibly fewer than) 10 new expansion quests. I'm really having a hard time seeing how the amount of content we currently have justifies a level increase at this time. To me this makes the level cap increase more of a penalty than a bonus as it shuts down a lot of content that could be run for destiny xp after cap. Perhaps that is part of the reason for the cap increase, to shut down Rusted Blades, Farmhouse and VoN3 farming. If the devs keep the xp in new content low, we could have serious issues.
    I think though that the ED farming will be reduced drastically with the increase to 28.
    Just to go from 20-25 requires 3mill which is enough to get 2 destinies to level 5.
    If We follow the xp increase progression I could see going from 25-28 being at least another 3mill if not more which is 2 more EDs.
    Now through in 1 TR to get to 34pt build that is another 4 destinies.
    And through in the last TR to get 36pt that is 4 more.
    So for 3 lives that is 12 destinies at level 5 and there are only 11 ED's at this time.

    Now I do know that the increase in the cap will suck for repeat penalties these should really be reset with this Epic TR thing that there is word of in the cosmos.
    Schadel TR FVS | Whathitme 2TR human stalwart tank |Whatwas TR Barbarian/Fighter--FuryoftheWild | Kpavio Monk/fighter| Whatsnyp Artificer | Skullzz all purpose Druid| Whatcast elf AM| Nobuffforu Acrobat Warchanter

  11. #11
    Community Member Teh_Troll's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Under the bridge
    Posts
    5,874

    Default

    The silence on this is deafening.

    What would be ideal is an 16th level chain and an 18th level chain with a 24 and a 26 epic option. That would give TR-streakers some relief in not having to grind Litany and RWTD as much and would give us some more to do at above level 20

    But I'm not optimistic on this at all since Turbine won't answer this simple question. It's very likely they just need leveling quests for the Iconic n00bs who don't want to play in Eberon.

  12. #12
    Community Member Teh_Troll's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Under the bridge
    Posts
    5,874

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    With a level cap increase seems pretty easy to deduce that they will be Epic.
    On would also deduce that an "expansion" would have a raid. Oh wait . . .

  13. #13
    Community Member Hendrik's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Bell's Brewery, MI.
    Posts
    10,991

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Charononus View Post
    IMO reasonable assumptions would be that there would be a raid in anything termed expansion, so reasonable deductions may not be valid.
    Don't get me wrong, I think it blows that there won't be a Raid, but I am not going to go all nerd rage over it.

    Considering what kind of work has to go into a Raid I can see why there won't be one in such a short time frame.

    But I am a level headed person that plays for fun and does not hate what I do for fun each and every day. I do hope that those that claim they are not going to get the X-pac because of no Raid stick to their word, they won't of course, but I still have hope.

    Quote Originally Posted by hsinclair
    I heard the devs hate all wizards, bards, clerics, fighters, and fuzzy bunnies and only want us to play halfling barbarian/paladin shuriken specialists!

    It's totally true, I have a reliable source. You better reroll now.
    Adventurer, Bug Reporter, Mournlander.

  14. #14
    2016 DDO Players Council
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Denmark
    Posts
    2,014

    Default

    A reply is most definitely needed.

    I most definitely assume and hope that all 10 quests and both wildernesses have level 26+ versions possibly in addition to level 15-18 versions. Anything else would be an even worse mistake than not having a raid in the expansion - and thats horrid already.

  15. #15
    Community Manager
    Cordovan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Boston Area, MA
    Posts
    17,701

    Default

    The plan is to have heroic and epic versions of the new quests in the expansion, although the current U18 capstone quest "Shadow of a Doubt" does not currently have an epic version planned for it. Keep in mind of course that any project still in development could see changes happen to it, but the plan is to offer heroic and epic versions of the expansion quest content.
    Have fun, and don't forget to gather for buffs!
    Submit DDO Bugs through: ddobugs.turbine.com
    Follow DDO on: Facebook Twitter Google+ Pinterest
    Join us on Twitch!



  16. #16
    Community Member Satyriasys's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    912

    Default

    Best news I've heard all day.

  17. #17
    Community Member xXbikergirlXx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Looking for chocolate....
    Posts
    585

    Default ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    The plan is to have heroic and epic versions of the new quests in the expansion, although the current U18 capstone quest "Shadow of a Doubt" does not currently have an epic version planned for it. Keep in mind of course that any project still in development could see changes happen to it, but the plan is to offer heroic and epic versions of the expansion quest content.
    My question 'Was one of your past lives a politician?' Great answer a case of maybe but also possibly not!! I will pre-order either way but ultimately there needs to be Epic content to support the level cap rise.
    Never underestimate the power of Chocolate!
    Spiritfires, Spiritryder, Spiritbasher, Spirittanker, Spiritlite and Spiritwarper
    House Xorlarrin Sarlona

  18. #18
    Community Member Satyriasys's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    912

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    The plan is to have heroic and epic versions of the new quests in the expansion, although the current U18 capstone quest "Shadow of a Doubt" does not currently have an epic version planned for it. Keep in mind of course that any project still in development could see changes happen to it, but the plan is to offer heroic and epic versions of the expansion quest content.
    I have to wonder how you can come up with a price before the content is even finalized. I guess integrity counts for very little now days.

  19. #19
    Community Member maddmatt70's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    10,690

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    The plan is to have heroic and epic versions of the new quests in the expansion, although the current U18 capstone quest "Shadow of a Doubt" does not currently have an epic version planned for it. Keep in mind of course that any project still in development could see changes happen to it, but the plan is to offer heroic and epic versions of the expansion quest content.
    Thank you for the response. Honestly, many of these posters were not being snarky or anything of the like we just do not know what is going to be in the expansion. All that had been said was 10 quests and 2 adventure areas. It is good to hear that there will be an option for end game players to play. At $30.00 I can probably do one more splurge for these quests now that I know they will almost certainly have an end game option.

    I am very bummed about the no raid. Personally, the only thing right now grabbing my attention is raiding, but if the cap goes up and there are high caliber end game quests that will be something for me to enjoy. Hopefully the enhancement pass will also come to pass soonish as well which would grab my attention from a build design perspective.
    Norg Fighter12/Paladin6/Monk2, Jacquiej Cleric18/Monk1/Wiz1, Rabiez Bard16/Ranger3/Cleric1, Hangover Bard L20, Boomsticks Fighter12/Monk 6/Druid 2, Grumblegut Ranger8/Paladin6/Monk6, Rabidly Rogue L20, Furiously Rogue10/Monk6/Paladin4, Snowcones Cleric 12/Ranger 6/Monk 2, Norge Barbarian 12/FVS4/Rogue4. Guild:Prophets of The New Republic Khyber.

  20. #20
    Hero
    2015 DDO Players Council
    Krelar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    4,121

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by xXbikergirlXx View Post
    My question 'Was one of your past lives a politician?' Great answer a case of maybe but also possibly not!! I will pre-order either way but ultimately there needs to be Epic content to support the level cap rise.
    It's more an issue of learning their lesson after past experience. Fernando caught massive amounts of flack for comments he made about crafting that were true at the time but later changed before release.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

This form's session has expired. You need to reload the page.

Reload