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    Can you please explain why now in the Ehancements Tree selection for Clerics the Enhancements of Prayer of Incredible Life and Smiting are listed as "Obsolete".Was there some hidden content in the patch notes we did not get acess too?

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    They are just preparing for the NGE... erm Enhancement Pass... Those two enhancement are going to disappear.

    Clerics will be HjealBots, so Smitting has no use, and Prayer of Incredible Life will exist in the HjealBot Tree in another form.

    We told them that what they did was idiotic, but they are still going to ram it down our throat as usual.
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    It is actually the Prayer of Incredible Life and Prayer of Incredible Life Smiting that are listed as obsolete. Smiting and Prayer of Smiting, as well as Life Magic and Prayer of Life, are still listed as valid Cleric enhancements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frogger1234 View Post
    It is actually the Prayer of Incredible Life and Prayer of Incredible Life Smiting that are listed as obsolete.
    So I now no longer have enhancements to increase the strength of my crits. Great.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frogger1234 View Post
    Smiting and Prayer of Smiting, as well as Life Magic and Prayer of Life, are still listed as valid Cleric enhancements.
    But have been nerfed also, from 3% per tier to 1% per tier.

    So I used to be able to get 3% chance for 1 AP, now 3% costs 6 AP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirValentine View Post
    So I now no longer have enhancements to increase the strength of my crits. Great.
    It's only the first part of what is going to happen this summer...
    As a Cleric, you will have the choice of being a Healbot... or a Healbot.
    Melee is not for you ( even if you can wear full plate ), offensive spell casting is not for you
    ( even if you have several instant death spells, and quite a few damaging ones ), Clerics have to be healbots.
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    Seems like what happened here is that part of the new enhancements went into the game.
    (The negative ones.)

    And the new enhancements are not in the game, but due to come out soon(tm) (As in the xpac, unless it gets bumped)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarQuic View Post
    Dear Dev's

    Can you please explain why now in the Ehancements Tree selection for Clerics the Enhancements of Prayer of Incredible Life and Smiting are listed as "Obsolete".Was there some hidden content in the patch notes we did not get acess too?
    This not intended nor by design. The enhancement is not obsolete: That text being there at all is a bug. However, we're checking to make sure it's working as it's intended to (which is the same as it used to in Update 17).

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    Quote Originally Posted by danotmano1998 View Post
    (As in the xpac, unless it gets bumped)
    One can hope they get bumped till a better design come into play.
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    we'd rather spend that development time on things most players like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargouille View Post
    This not intended nor by design. The enhancement is not obsolete: That text being there at all is a bug. However, we're checking to make sure it's working as it's intended to (which is the same as it used to in Update 17).
    So somebody going into the text descriptions and physically changing them is a "bug"?
    If your "Known Issues" list needs a freaking scroll bar, then one of you needs to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flavilandile View Post
    HjealBot Tree
    I love HjealBot Tree's... they do so much damage!

    Quote Originally Posted by Flavilandile View Post
    Healbot... or a Healbot.
    Don't forget ProtectNannyBot. Which sounds so awesome they gave it to FVS as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargouille View Post
    This not intended nor by design. The enhancement is not obsolete: That text being there at all is a bug. However, we're checking to make sure it's working as it's intended to (which is the same as it used to in Update 17).
    I thank-you for your timely reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gratch View Post
    <insert Memnir facepalm pic>
    as Mem is AWOL here is it :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antheal View Post
    So somebody going into the text descriptions and physically changing them is a "bug"?
    The text is from an upcoming enhancement update, where they WILL be obsolete. (I'm not kidding, it was on Lama recently, it will be in the Xpac or the next couple updates after that))

    The bug is that the text (and possibly the nerf itself) slipped into this release of live. (I have NEVER seen a company this bad at version control, its sad)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gkar View Post
    The text is from an upcoming enhancement update, where they WILL be obsolete. (I'm not kidding, it was on Lama recently, it will be in the Xpac or the next couple updates after that)) The bug is that the text (and possibly the nerf itself) slipped into this release of live. (I have NEVER seen a company this bad at version control, its sad)
    Oh I've seen a company this bad at version control.... It's called Turbin..... Wait nevermind.,. The HORRIBLE development continues.... When will the leaders be shipped to another land.... The DDO leadership is a failed enterprise... They need new blood at the top....

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    Quote Originally Posted by smatt View Post
    Oh I've seen a company this bad at version control.... It's called Turbin..... Wait nevermind.,. The HORRIBLE development continues.... When will the leaders be shipped to another land.... The DDO leadership is a failed enterprise... They need new blood at the top....
    They need Kobolds to take over all the corporate food chain...
    ( taking over the top won't be enough, there's some house cleaning that needs to be done at all the level to repair the damages )
    The QA Kobolds, while taking a lot of flak from us, seems to be quite decent, though it looks like they are not free, and have to follow the torches laid by other people, even if they are not agreeing with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargouille View Post
    This not intended nor by design. The enhancement is not obsolete: That text being there at all is a bug. However, we're checking to make sure it's working as it's intended to (which is the same as it used to in Update 17).
    My crits are not increasing by the .25 or .5 they are supposed to with the Incredible player and I am finding the issue is actually the enhancement has been made obsolete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargouille View Post
    This not intended nor by design. The enhancement is not obsolete: That text being there at all is a bug. However, we're checking to make sure it's working as it's intended to (which is the same as it used to in Update 17).
    That's nonsense, plain and simple.

    Someone went in and turned off the assorted critical lines in enhancements.

    Someone also went in and changed the text to state that these enhancements are all obsolete.

    That's not a "bug". Here's the wikipedia definition of bug: "A software bug is an error, flaw, failure, or fault in a computer program or system that produces an incorrect or unexpected result, or causes it to behave in unintended ways. Most bugs arise from mistakes and errors made by people in either a program's source code or its design, and a few are caused by compilers producing incorrect code."

    The above situation is both correct and expected. What was "unexpected" was that anyone would see it this soon.

    That's not a bug, it's a version screw-up. The *only* reason I'm being overly pendantic about this is that precise communication is a vital part of your job, Vargouille. Frankly, what this answer says to me is that you're willing to be just as sloppy at your job as the people who pushed forward the wrong version of the code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargouille View Post
    This not intended nor by design. The enhancement is not obsolete: That text being there at all is a bug. However, we're checking to make sure it's working as it's intended to (which is the same as it used to in Update 17).
    It has been almost 3 weeks since this was posted; yet no update has been provided. I attempted to check in game ticket number 2943218, and am told absolutely nothing of value...but thanks for contacting us. So, Until I find out what is going on and when it is going to be fixed I'm parking all of my healers on Khyber (and recommending to my guildies and any others I talk with to avoid bringing them on-line). In protest to the lack of attention/information being provided on this issue by the developers. I don't generally do this but as I have 5 healers who are all being effected by this issue, I am being given little choice. My guild has 29 clerics and 17 favored souls--including mine.
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    if i said the loss of crits has given me unlimited plat and tomes, would you bother to fix it in 2 months?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourrumtest View Post
    if i said the loss of crits has given me unlimited plat and tomes, would you bother to fix it in 2 months?
    They haven't fixed it because the only part that's not wai is that it happened u18 instead of u19.

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