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    Default Is Evasion possible in anyway on a pure Arti ??

    I just finished leveling my Arti to 20 and not having evasion was very expensive in gear repair from my many deaths in the higher level quests. Not from traps, because I found all those, but from the casters / elementals hitting me with lightning/fire etc..

    Is there a clickie / ring / gear etc etc. that will add evasion to this build, without me having to go 2 rogue or 2 monk ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pappo View Post
    I just finished leveling my Arti to 20 and not having evasion was very expensive in gear repair from my many deaths in the higher level quests. Not from traps, because I found all those, but from the casters / elementals hitting me with lightning/fire etc..

    Is there a clickie / ring / gear etc etc. that will add evasion to this build, without me having to go 2 rogue or 2 monk ?

    Thanks

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    Just what you can get in epic destinies...There is NO gear in DDO with evasion.
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    Epic destines or monk past life for a short duration clickie effect

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    Thanks to all who responded. I guess I may have to decide to switch from Sharidi to Shadowdancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pappo View Post
    Thanks to all who responded. I guess I may have to decide to switch from Sharidi to Shadowdancer.
    There are some good things in that destiny, evasion being one of them but you may find shiradi too good to give up later on. If you are high on INT, I would suggest the Insightful Reflexes feat, it's not evasion but really boosts your reflex. I have this on my Wizard and Arti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pappo View Post
    I just finished leveling my Arti to 20 and not having evasion was very expensive in gear repair from my many deaths in the higher level quests. Not from traps, because I found all those, but from the casters / elementals hitting me with lightning/fire etc..

    Is there a clickie / ring / gear etc etc. that will add evasion to this build, without me having to go 2 rogue or 2 monk ?

    Thanks
    I have had pure 20 arti, a 18/2 arti/rog, and a Juggernaut variant and I didn't notice that much of a drop in power between the arti and the arti/rog, and I never missed the capstone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Postumus View Post
    I have had pure 20 arti, a 18/2 arti/rog, and a Juggernaut variant and I didn't notice that much of a drop in power between the arti and the arti/rog, and I never missed the capstone.
    ^--This. Good point. (and take IR).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonos View Post
    (and take IR).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Postumus View Post
    I have had pure 20 arti, a 18/2 arti/rog, and a Juggernaut variant and I didn't notice that much of a drop in power between the arti and the arti/rog, and I never missed the capstone.
    Thanks Sonos and Postumus. I will take Insightful and find a reflex clickie or gear to boost up that reflex save. I got my butt kicked big-time in "Enter the Kobold" without Evasion.... LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by dredre9987 View Post
    Just what you can get in epic destinies...There is NO gear in DDO with evasion.
    There is... but it only works underwater. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Postumus View Post
    I have had pure 20 arti, a 18/2 arti/rog, and a Juggernaut variant and I didn't notice that much of a drop in power between the arti and the arti/rog, and I never missed the capstone.
    Isn't the current capstone also going away?

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    for the sake of exhaustivity i may add the monk past life feat that grants evasion 1x/day *for a short time*
    http://ddowiki.com/page/Past_Life:_Disciple_of_the_Fist
    never tried it tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by pappo View Post
    Thanks Sonos and Postumus. I will take Insightful and find a reflex clickie or gear to boost up that reflex save. I got my butt kicked big-time in "Enter the Kobold" without Evasion.... LOL
    2 items that can help:

    Fleshie- Infused Chaos robe from Fear Factory. Add +10 reflex at altar in The Twelve's plainscaller room.

    Robot(WF)- Infused Chaos Docent from Reign of Madness Chain end reward. Add +10 reflex at altar in The Twelve's plainscaller room.

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Infused_Chaos_Docent

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Infused_Chaosrobe

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Altar_of_Insanity

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    Quote Originally Posted by pappo View Post
    I just finished leveling my Arti to 20 and not having evasion was very expensive in gear repair from my many deaths in the higher level quests. Not from traps, because I found all those, but from the casters / elementals hitting me with lightning/fire etc..

    Is there a clickie / ring / gear etc etc. that will add evasion to this build, without me having to go 2 rogue or 2 monk ?

    Thanks
    As well as 2 rogue, or 2 monk, you can also get evasion form 9 ranger.

    If you are really opposed to multiclassing then evasion can be gained in the form of up to three 20-second activated durations with the Monk active pastlife feat or passively with Level 5 of the Shadowdancer Epic Destiny or selected as Tier 6 in Primal Avatar Epic Destiny.

    The new update to the Gianthold Aquatic Bracers, from Crucible, mean the Heroic Elite, Epic Normal, Epic Hard, and Epic Elite versions of the item give you the ability Swim like a Fish. This allows you the evasion ability even if you do not already have it, as long as you are in water.

    Hope that helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muffins_cupcake View Post
    As well as 2 rogue, or 2 monk, you can also get evasion form 9 ranger.

    If you are really opposed to multiclassing then evasion can be gained in the form of up to three 20-second activated durations with the Monk active pastlife feat
    or passively with Level 5 of the Shadowdancer Epic Destiny or selected as Tier 6 in Primal Avatar Epic Destiny.

    The new update to the Gianthold Aquatic Bracers, from Crucible, mean the Heroic Elite, Epic Normal, Epic Hard, and Epic Elite versions of the item give you the ability Swim like a Fish. This allows you the evasion ability even if you do not already have it, as long as you are in water.

    Hope that helps.
    Out of curisoity, why did you make your text black? It looks invisible when using jj's color scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllisDee37 View Post
    Out of curisoity, why did you make your text black? It looks invisible when using jj's color scheme.
    I didn't mean to; it was an accident and I didn't know how to change it back. I'm not overly tech savvy so my wife has to keep fixing my computer for me and she was at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pappo View Post
    Thanks to all who responded. I guess I may have to decide to switch from Sharidi to Shadowdancer.
    If you're looking for some ideas, feel free to check out the link in my sig for a shadowdancer arti. Fury is my main ED now, though. Personally, I'm unimpressed by Shiradi for an arti.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CThruTheEgo View Post
    If you're looking for some ideas, feel free to check out the link in my sig for a shadowdancer arti. Fury is my main ED now, though. Personally, I'm unimpressed by Shiradi for an arti.
    I play this build and the main things besides DPS my guild really expects of me:

    - is to not miss on the traps
    - control my aggro
    - be survivable

    The ShadowDancer on my pure Artie allowed me to do all of the above as in addition to giving Evasion & 25% Incorporeality it boosts saves/rogue skills/etc & from memory had a stance that lowered aggro. The high Inteligence on the Artie & Insightful Reflexes played will with SD and you can twist in cool things like Pin & Whistler from Sharadi if you want. If I do get aggro (like when popping Fusillades too early/often) my temporary loss of sneak-attack actually helps my team-mates out DPS me to take it back.

    The other side effect is that by staying pure my buffs from clickes last 20 minutes now and that really makes everyone happy (I have a ton of them including Good Hope, Greater Heroism, etc).

    To each his own but I personally like the SD Destiny for my pure Artie & it has decent DPS even though it has less exciting crits compared to FotW. If things go south I can usually get away to live and rez folk (Dimension Door, invis, Shadow Walk, stealth, etc).
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    Default evasion

    to be honnest: enter the kobold needs extreme reflex saves to make it through the end fight on elite
    even if you have the reflex save for evasion to work you will roll a 1 at one point causing a big damage spike.
    its a chalanging fight and i see tr's at level complete it more then new people,
    preperation can get you a long way, energy absorbtion on greensteel is a bit expensive but scrolls of fire shield cold can help a bit (and cost way less)

    trie getting a old version of the cloack of ice (the new one got nerfed badly)

    gl

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