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    Default New Player. All threads in New Player Thread Listing coming with "404" errors.

    All the threads on this page are coming up with "404" errors.

    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...New-Players***

    Any insights or advice?

    Thanks
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    Default working.

    Your link is working fine for me, try checking your browser and deleting your cookies just in case you have some from the old forums interfering with the new forums, they did change the forum addresses, so there could slightly possibly be a conflict in there.
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    You tried the links on the page I linked?

    The thread I linked has a listing of threads for new players. The threads on that page are all coming up with "404" errors.

    Hope that clarifies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 19kilos View Post
    You tried the links on the page I linked?

    The thread I linked has a listing of threads for new players. The threads on that page are all coming up with "404" errors.

    Hope that clarifies.
    Oh, no I did not, I only tried the first link, I misunderstood, I will try them now for you and get back to you.
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    Ok, I know what is up, the old forums used to be forums.ddo.com/blah blah blah.

    The way to make them work is to change the address to ddo.com/forums/blah blah blah.

    Basically, change the dot forums to slash forums in the address bar. I will locate Tolero's post explaining it for you and link it.
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    Here you go:

    Quote Originally Posted by Tolero View Post
    Yes we are looking into this as well. We had redirects in place but it appears it's not catching all of it. When in doubt any URL that used to read forums.ddo.com/blahblahblah should work by changing it to www.ddo.com/forums/blahblahblah since all the thread ID numbers stayed the same.

    We are aware of particular DDO.com based articles that still need to be moved over, so we're working through those *after* we get user accounts, style, and logout issues buttoned up.

    Hope this helps you out.
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    Thanks very much for your help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 19kilos View Post
    Thanks very much for your help.
    You are welcome! Glad it did actually help too.
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    Its a little frustrating honestly.

    Is this an issue that is looking at being addressed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 19kilos View Post
    Its a little frustrating honestly.

    Is this an issue that is looking at being addressed?

    I am not sure how long you have played the game, but after a short while, you learn to adapt and find ways to make things work.

    Yeas, it is frustrating, but for the record, the larger portion of us on the forums have been doing it for years now, and we do it because we love the game.

    To answer the question: They said they are working on it, they said they know the links don't work properly.

    But in reality, a fix could be soon(R) soon(TM) SOON(C 2006-2013) eventually, at some time, when they get to it or more realistically not on the radar as far as getting done in your lifetime.

    You would probably do better asking in the game in /a chat for new player advice, ignore most of the chatter that comes across /a to you, and pay attention to the private tells people will likely send you. you can respond to the last person sending you a tell with /r in the chatbox.

    Basically, you have to deal with fixing the URL yourself, or ask in-game, and there are more people willing to help in game than you may realize, but they may not be online same time as you, but overall, the players are good for helping out new players.

    Well, maybe not on Khyber. /hehehehehehehehehe!
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    Thanks. lol

    Yes some of those links seemed to have information that felt "out of date".

    Hows the population on the servers? Im going to be prime time U.S. CST and looking for a more populated server?

    Thanks again for taking the time to answer my questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 19kilos View Post
    Thanks. lol

    Yes some of those links seemed to have information that felt "out of date".

    Hows the population on the servers? Im going to be prime time U.S. CST and looking for a more populated server?

    Thanks again for taking the time to answer my questions.
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    I personally have a main on all 3 of those servers, and I bounced around for 2 years across them all and have kind of found my niche on Thelanis, even though I miss my Hurc Ftr on Gland.

    Orien is a good server, I just lost interest in my wiz a couple years back with the changes and haven't played it.....I should though, I have/had some good gaming friends there.

    Others may pop in with better advice than I have, but I feel Thelanis has a decent LFM population, and is a bit more new player friendly than the others.

    That is just one players perspective though, so take it for what it is worth.
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    Can't believe they haven't addressed this issue. All of my bookmarks for my builds don't work plus other linked pages like solving puzzles...
    But this is not simply an annoyance for me. There are literally tens if not hundreds of thousands of links to the DDO forums that now show a 404 page not found error. Anyone who knows anything about Google Page Rank knows they just left a lot of money lying on the table.
    If they really wanted to do it correct, the 404 page should be a custom script that figures out what page you were attempting to navigate to, and issues a 301 Moved Permanently with the updated URL.
    I use Google to search the DDO forums because... lets face it. Forum search sucks - old and new version although new is much better and not simply sorted newest first. Google search still links to the old pages with the 404 errors. No way to use Google to search the new forums yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaikob- View Post
    If they really wanted to do it correct, the 404 page should be a custom script that figures out what page you were attempting to navigate to, and issues a 301 Moved Permanently with the updated URL..
    Clearly you think the DDO web team has taken "web programming basics 101". Sadly that appears not to be the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 19kilos View Post
    All the threads on this page are coming up with "404" errors.

    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...New-Players***

    Any insights or advice?

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaikob- View Post
    Can't believe they haven't addressed this issue. All of my bookmarks for my builds don't work plus other linked pages like solving puzzles...
    But this is not simply an annoyance for me. There are literally tens if not hundreds of thousands of links to the DDO forums that now show a 404 page not found error. Anyone who knows anything about Google Page Rank knows they just left a lot of money lying on the table.
    If they really wanted to do it correct, the 404 page should be a custom script that figures out what page you were attempting to navigate to, and issues a 301 Moved Permanently with the updated URL.
    I use Google to search the DDO forums because... lets face it. Forum search sucks - old and new version although new is much better and not simply sorted newest first. Google search still links to the old pages with the 404 errors. No way to use Google to search the new forums yet.
    If the bookmark isn't working, it was a bookmark for the old forums. In the old link when you click it, it will have a "en" in the link when used. That's what's breaking it, manually change it to "forums" and then change the bookmark to the new forums link.

    That's what I ended up doing with the 2 or so pages I kept bookmarked from the old forums.

    Example:

    Old forum link when clicked from bookmark:

    https://www.ddo.com/en/showthread.php/349114

    New forum link to make it work:

    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/349114

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorien_ View Post
    Clearly you think the DDO web team has taken "web programming basics 101". Sadly that appears not to be the case.
    LOL apparently not.
    All they have to do is add a 301 redirect to their htaccess.

    Bit rusty but something like this should do the trick:

    RewriteEngine On
    RewriteRule ^http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=(.*)$ https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/$2 [L,R=301]


    Can't test this right now, can never remember whether the caught bit from the first part of the rule, that you reuse in the second part of the rule, is the first or second pattern match; so the $2 at the end of the rule could also be $1...
    This is just an example of how easy it is when you are the web-admin.

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