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    Default New player wants to pay needs advice.

    What are the best ways to spend money in this game?
    What should you look for in a guild?
    Any advice at all would be appreciated.

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    What I did regarding money was to be VIP for a while and then buy TP when it went on sale. Then if you ever want to make the transition wait until some great quest sale happens, dump VIP, then buy up the packs you need to play regularly.

    Never buy stuff that can be earned free. Play that 28pt character and unlock everything via favor then TR it.

    Guild choice depends largely on play style. I got into a great guild on Thelanis called Knight's of the Silver Dragon which is largely based on layed back, co-op play with a regular tri-weekly schedule. Random invites rarely turn out well fyi, though they can. Group with players and talk to them about the guild they are in and find out what they like best about it.

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    1) The only thing you should buy is quest packs, until you own all the ones you would ever play. Quest packs allow you to earn more favor per character (which means more free TP), opens new gear options to improve your character overall, and of course you have to actually own content in order to play the game. Anything else is just a waste of TP until you own all the quest packs. The one exception is if you really really want to play one of the races or classes that are not unlockable in-game; then, of course, you gotta buy it too.

    I'd really advise you to hold out for sales, if you can, though. They do choose-your-discount sales fairly often.

    2) You generally want the highest level guild you can find. Higher level guilds offer better buffs and amenities on their airships. Beyond that, you want a guild that will enhance your preferred playstyle. If you like running organized raids and stuff with the same people all the time, there's guilds for that. If you just like to be casual and/or solo, there's guilds for that too.

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    With your tp, the best (and only) thing to buy is Adventure Pack (and shared bank if you play more than 1 character)
    But wait for a discount (usually 20-35% but didn't saw a promo on eberron adventure pack since a long time)

    If you want to invest money, the best is to purchase MOTU pack
    You get the Underdark adventure Pack, 4 Eberron adventure pack (phiarlan carnaval, assault on sommerfield, dreaming dark & a 4th one), 1000 TP and the Epic Destinies

    I purchased it when there was a 50% discount and didn't regret it

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    If you want to invest money in the game, my first recomendation is to sign up for 3-month VIP. The impact of going VIP right off the bat is amazing. You get 8 extra character slots, unlock 2 classes (monk and druid) and 3 races (warforged, half-oc and half-elf), get access to every quest in game (except the expansion ones), get 10% XP bonus, and 1500 TP (500/month).

    There is also the inherent unlocks to spending money on the game, like raising the number of mails and auctions you can send, and unlimited plat carrying (ok, up to 4.3 mil).

    If you get a character to level 20 and still likes the game, I advise you to go for your second buy: The $35 expansion pack. This will give you 4 adventure packs and druid (for the time if you decide to drop VIPness), 1000 TP, and access to the expansion quests and epic destinies. And a free tome of learning.

    After that, it is your choice to stay on VIP to milk benefits from it, or to get more cash out to "buy the game" as a premium player. You will have a better knowledge of the game to make this decision by yourself.

    What should you look for in a guild?
    Depends on what you expect from a guild.

    If you only want something to milk ship buffs and maybe equip guild slotted items (no longer drops, can only be found on the AH as legacy items), join any "khortos army" guild over level 63 and you can have that.

    The other way is a guild that favors a certain playstyle. We have static group guild, permadeath guild, raid-focused guilds, TR focuse guild, etc. Just find the kind of style you like and join one of those.

    The third (and my prefered) way is just finding a guild full of people you like. Keep puging, and write down the guild of the good players you meet ("good" can be skill-wise or fun-wise). If they are recurrent, ask them what you need to do to join their guild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TMMGEM View Post
    What are the best ways to spend money in this game?
    What should you look for in a guild?
    Any advice at all would be appreciated.
    Most economical way to support Turbine, IMO, is the 3-month VIP. Good deal of benefits without a long term commitment.

    Far as Guilds, find like minded players. If you can find a group of people that like to play DDO the same way you do your going to have a great time playing.

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    I played for about a week F2P and then decided to VIP for 3 months. I figured 3 months should be enough to decided if I want to resub or stay F2P. By the end of the 3 months I'll have some turbine points, have tested all the classes and races, and pretty much see most of the game content. And all for 9.99 a month, I think that's a very sweet deal.

    But if your not ready for a 3 month commitment you may want to try the starter pack. The starter pack opens the Catacombs Adventure Pack, gives you a pet, and a permanent hireling Cleric (bound to account/1 per server), several xp elixirs with 30% bonus to all XP earned, and 250 turbine points, which you can add to the ones you unlock in game. I think this is a pretty sweet deal without commitment.

    As you level up gain some favor you will unlock some of the other races and played long enough to decide if you want to VIP or start collecting the Adventure Packs as needed.

    Regarding a guild well that all depends on your play style. Read up the Recruitment Thread, introduce your self and most likely someone likeminded will send you a PM or provide a link to a guild. Doesn't hurt to join teams and meet other players in game, make friends on your server, and soon enough you'll find a guild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snortie View Post
    If you want to invest money, the best is to purchase MOTU pack
    You get the Underdark adventure Pack, 4 Eberron adventure pack (phiarlan carnaval, assault on sommerfield, dreaming dark & a 4th one), 1000 TP and the Epic Destinies

    Quote Originally Posted by nibel View Post
    If you want to invest money in the game, my first recomendation is to sign up for 3-month VIP. The impact of going VIP right off the bat is amazing. You get 8 extra character slots, unlock 2 classes (monk and druid) and 3 races (warforged, half-oc and half-elf), get access to every quest in game (except the expansion ones), get 10% XP bonus, and 1500 TP (500/month).

    There is also the inherent unlocks to spending money on the game, like raising the number of mails and auctions you can send, and unlimited plat carrying (ok, up to 4.3 mil).
    I'm inclined to agree with Snortie more, especially if you can get it on sale. Its a little more out of pocket, but you get to keep everything you buy, you dont just rent it like you do with a 3-month sub. The quest packs are nicely spread out (Carnival L5, Assault on Stormreach L12, Eveningstar L16, Inspired Quarter/Dreaming Dark L18-20, Eveningstar and Carnival again for Epic), and 1000 TP is about $10 worth, enough to get Gianthold and maybe one more quest pack if you catch it on a sale. That really should be enough to take a first-lifer all the way to Epic or TR.

    You'll get the Premium upgrades (extra mail and auction slots, no plat cap) either way...but if you just bought a sub, you'll have to buy or unlock any Premium races or classes you played with as VIP, and any extra character slots over 4, once your sub ends, or the characters will be disabled. Likewise, you'll only have whatever content you can buy with your 1500 TP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droid_327 View Post
    Its a little more out of pocket, but you get to keep everything you buy, you dont just rent it like you do with a 3-month sub.
    This argument is still ridiculous. You're both renting. When the servers shut down VIPs and Premiums both lose what is "rented" or "bought". The payment method is the only difference, ownership is delusional.


    If you see yourself playing for about more than a year and a half, premium is better bang for buck IF you take the time to wait for "double" or "triple" bonus point deals, 20-30% or better discounts on the popular adventure packs, classes, races, shared bank, character slots, etc. (Double deals are uncommon, triple are very rare. Sometimes there are TP total discounts, ie spend 500+ tp get 5% discount, 1500+ tp get 10% discount, 2500+tp get 20% discount or variations.) That extra time spent waiting, grinding or not being able to group with people you've met because they decide to do something in content you don't own will be an opportunity cost you'll have to evaluate for yourself. If it's iffy, go VIP for 3 months and see how you like it. Not the best bang-for-buck decision, but it's a decent deal to see what you might like out of the game, whether to stay VIP or go Prem, and gives you more flexibility with potential game-mates.

    There are certain things that even VIPs have to pay for though, expansion packs like MOTU and the upcoming one, certain classes, and other high level or more established stuff.

    The main benefits of VIP are elite difficulty unlock(otherwise you have to do the quest on lower difficulties, wait for a party mate to be able to open it, or have True Reincarnated character) and a stacking 10% xp boost. As a VIP you can't buy the adventure packs or classes/races it already enables, but you can buy everything else, including turbine points when they're on sale for convenience items or if you plan to drop VIP for Premium and buy packs/other.

    If you do go VIP for 3 months, don't try/make more than 4 characters since premiums are limited to 4 by default. (Can buy more slots with TP) When/if you decide to go premium, you'll have to choose which characters will stay accessible.

    I will agree with the others and say that MOTU is a very good deal for a new player. (And even as a VIP you'll have to buy MOTU. And you'll want it if you plan for higher levels, it's very good content, gives you Epic Destinies which you'll want for sure for content 20+, and enables easy and good gearing options) That said, you're a new player and that content is mostly lvl20+ so it may not be relevant to your gaming experience for a while.

    You can level comfortably to lvl10-13 as a F2P, after that it becomes more difficult.

    For adventure packs, I'd say the most popular are:
    Low lvl:
    Delera's Tomb
    Tangleroot Gorge

    Mid lvl:
    The Vault of Night
    Ruins of Gianthold
    Demon Sands
    Vale of Twilight

    High lvl:
    Menace of the Underdark expansion
    High Road of Shadows
    The Vault of Night
    Ruins of Gianthold
    Demon Sands

    Other packs are also pretty played, but I'd say these get the most action.


    The main advantage of Shared bank is that it lets you transfer Bound-To-Account items from one character to another. Also more convenient for moving nonbound items char-to-char rather than mailing. It's less important in the game than it was a year or two ago since DDO has moved away from the Shard/Seal/Scroll epic items and have gone towards Bound-to-Character-On-Equip and Bound-To-Character(raids generally) items. While before I'd say it was a necessity, these days I'd say it's a convenience purchase. Also, being a new player, even one who might be interested in a few of those types of items, it won't be needed until you're more involved with the high levels and looking to make new characters with plans for the higher lvls with it also.

    For races, the P2P races can be better than the F2P, but the races are all very well balanced, so don't feel pressured into buying a certain race. Though the F2P human is one of the best, and definitely has the most advantages for a new player.

    For classes, they're also balanced pretty well(as far as the distinction of F2P vs. P2P. Casters are generally much more powerful than melees). Depends what you'll be interested in once you get a handle on the game mechanics and your playstyle tastes.

    32pt builds is also not necessary. Though for some classes, like Paladin, Rogue or others, it lets them get from "kind of stretched" with 28pt builds to "comfortable" stats wise, with the help of Ability Tomes.

    At this point I'll parrot others and say to not buy anything you can unlock with 2500 favor on one character(Artificer aside. Big headache to unlock this).


    P.S. Check out DDOwiki.com. Best website for DDO information. If you don't/can't find answers there, this forum will usually have someone who will help.
    Last edited by Som; 05-06-2013 at 01:40 PM.
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    Thanks guys great advice here. I drop anywhere from 20 to 50 USD a month on gaming. So I think I will be going VIP. Then buying some other items along the way. I prefer to enjoy a game take my time. So I think I will look for a guild that has that play style.

    Again thank you for the advice.

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